2012 Draft - Rank the PF/C Prospects

Post #21 » by **UGA Hayes** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:21 am

I don't know that it limits him as much as you say. Blocks and rebounds translate pretty well regardless of a persons measurement. He isn't going to be DPOY or anything but I don't think it will stop him from being a decent defender. I think he has a pretty good base while having decent feet so he might end up being solid at defending postups and rotating which is as important a skill as shotblocking, which again he doesn't project to be bad at.

Kirsten19 · Post #22 » by **Kirsten19** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:38 am

Henson has the DPOY potential

ManualRam · Post #23 » by **ManualRam** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:57 am

UGA Hayes wrote:I don't know that it limits him as much as you say. Blocks and rebounds translate pretty well regardless of a persons measurement. He isn't going to be DPOY or anything but I don't think it will stop him from being a decent defender. I think he has a pretty good base while having decent feet so he might end up being solid at defending postups and rotating which is as important a skill as shotblocking, which again he doesn't project to be bad at.

blocks and shot contests wont translate well.
at best he could maybe become a position defender, but he wont be able to contest or deter penetration like defenders who have length/and or athleticism.

Charsace · Post #24 » by **Charsace** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:30 am

Drummond would go 1st if he came out. Have a feeling that he would put up some great numbers and dominate guys 1 on 1. That would probably be enough for some team to take the risk and pick him first.

DirtyDez · Post #25 » by **DirtyDez** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:18 am

I would love to see both AD's in college for 1 more season. That would be a treat... Are chances less than 10% you think?

Wone · Post #26 » by **Wone** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:32 pm

woah i just noticed taht perry jones's stock has risen. he used to be at number 5 on nbadraft.net and now he is at number 4 behind andre drummond, jeremy lamb, and anthony davis. number 5 is now harrison barnes.

BarbaGrizz · Post #27 » by **BarbaGrizz** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:25 am

After Seton Hall´s game, where Fab Melo enter in that list?

teamjosh04 · Post #28 » by **teamjosh04** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:38 pm

Since when did one good game in a blow out warrant lottery consideration?

Melo is still an intriguing prospect down the road and has improved a lot, but he doesnt touch this conversation.

Jazzfan12 · Post #29 » by **Jazzfan12** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:28 pm

teamjosh04 wrote:Since when did one good game in a blow out warrant lottery consideration

Andre Drummond's game against Holy Cross? :lol:

BarbaGrizz · Post #30 » by **BarbaGrizz** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:58 pm

teamjosh04 wrote:Since when did one good game in a blow out warrant lottery consideration?

Melo is still an intriguing prospect down the road and has improved a lot, but he doesnt touch this conversation.

He´s at list in first round conversation?

JN · Post #31 » by JN » Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:09 pm

teamjosh04 wrote:Since when did one good game in a blow out warrant lottery consideration?

Melo is still an intriguing prospect down the road and has improved a lot, but he doesnt touch this conversation.

And Patric Young does?

teamjosh04 · Post #32 » by **teamjosh04** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:10 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:
teamjosh04 wrote:Since when did one good game in a blow out warrant lottery consideration?

Melo is still an intriguing prospect down the road and has improved a lot, but he doesnt touch this conversation.

He´s at list in first round conversation?

if he declared, he might generate some buzz. more likely second round though. i highly doubt he declares this year. give him another year and hes a first round pick

ManualRam · Post #33 » by **ManualRam** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:39 pm

even with fab's improved quickness he's still slow for the NBA.

mid-post · Post #34 » by **mid-post** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:10 am

Jazzfan12 wrote:Andre Drummond's game against Holy Cross?

Drummond has been considered a top 5 lock for the past year genius. :lol:

Post #35 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:30 am

UGA Hayes wrote:
ManualRam wrote:i know wingspan isnt everything but cody zeller has a 6'9 wingspan, sub 8'10 standing reaching.
change any of your opinions of him?

Not really. I've watched a couple of games of his now and offensively he is a technically advanced player. He just really know how to position and shield the ball where it would be difficult for a defender to reach it regardless of their dimensions. Defensively he looks to have a good frame and his blocks and steals numbers are pretty solid. He rebounds are solid too. I don't really see much downside to him ATM, even with below avg measurements, although I would like to see how he does against his conference schedule, since there are actually a couple good bigs in his conference this year.

Really? He's doesn't have a thick frame, and he's not particularly quick, so if those are really his current measurements (which I'd question, frankly. He doesn't have long arms, but I don't think they're that short.), I cannot see him being able to rebound or defend effectively in the NBA - and he'd have a lot of trouble getting points in the paint.

I still think people here are underrating older bro Tyler.

JamesNaismith · Post #36 » by **JamesNaismith** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:09 am

Drummond is still the top prospect.

Despite his early struggles (and the Calhoun freshman curse) he's already shown more skill then more then half the current crop of NBA centers. I'm sorry but you'll be very hard pressed to find majority of C's in the league even display the level of skill Drummond has at ANY time of their development. I'm only referring to offensive ability; the good thing I didn't expect is that he's actually proven himself to be a stud defensively.

Between his size (which reminds me of a slightly smaller O'Neal type of body frame - please don't act like it doesn't look obvious he'll only put on more weight and become stronger) and talent; alone make him the top prospect (KEYWORD) in the draft....just very rare.

ManualRam · Post #37 » by **ManualRam** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:40 am

meyers leonard is more skilled than drummond. just saying.

Post #38 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:29 am

ManualRam wrote:meyers leonard is more skilled than drummond. just saying.

But in a robotic way.

ManualRam · Post #39 » by **ManualRam** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:51 pm

Ruzious wrote:
ManualRam wrote:meyers leonard is more skilled than drummond. just saying.

But in a robotic way.

he's still a more skilled player. better shooter, better post moves, better passer.
he has a much better understanding of the game as well.

Post #40 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:26 pm

But honestly,for a guy with his size and athletic ability, you'd agree that Drummond isn't really "behind" in terms of development, would you?