D'angelo Russell

[Catchall]

Seems like he's trying to pattern his game after Steph Curry.

[ManualRam]

Doesn't Matter, not likley to enter the draft this year anyways. Told just about every school he went to he wants to be at least a 2 year player

it does matter because talk is cheap. we've all heard that type of stuff before.

[MPrice25]

Doesn't Matter, not likley to enter the draft this year anyways. Told just about every school he went to he wants to be at least a 2 year player

it does matter because talk is cheap. we've all heard that type of stuff before.

Nah, doesn't matter one bit.

[ManualRam]

Doesn't Matter, not likley to enter the draft this year anyways. Told just about every school he went to he wants to be at least a 2 year player

it does matter because talk is cheap. we've all heard that type of stuff before.

Nah, doesn't matter one bit.

sure it does. declaring is more so about capitalizing than readiness. if projections hold and he's lotto, then that's plenty reason for him to go. believe whatever you want, but its funny how 18-19 y/o change their tune once millions are staring them in the face.

[No-Man]

sure it does. declaring is more so about capitalizing than readiness. if projections hold and he's lotto, then that's plenty reason for him to go. believe whatever you want, but its funny how 18-19 y/o change their tune once millions are staring them in the face.

hey, maybe he got inside info, maybe he is D'Angelo's bff or his dad, you never know

[MPrice25]

it does matter because talk is cheap. we've all heard that type of stuff before.

Nah, doesn't matter one bit.

sure it does. declaring is more so about capitalizing than readiness. if projections hold and he's lotto, then that's plenty reason for him to go. believe whatever you want, but its funny how 18-19 y/o change their tune once millions are staring them in the face.

Nah, it doesn't. You believe what you want, its wrong, but hey if it helps you sleep at night

[Negrodamus]

Nah, doesn't matter one bit.

sure it does. declaring is more so about capitalizing than readiness. if projections hold and he's lotto, then that's plenty reason for him to go. believe whatever you want, but its funny how 18-19 y/o change their tune once millions are staring them in the face.

Nah, it doesn't. You believe what you want, its wrong, but hey if it helps you sleep at night

Why would he stick around? It's not like Thad Matta is known for developing players nor does he have that great of a team around him.

[MPrice25]

sure it does. declaring is more so about capitalizing than readiness. if projections hold and he's lotto, then that's plenty reason for him to go. believe whatever you want, but its funny how 18-19 y/o change their tune once millions are staring them in the face.

Nah, it doesn't. You believe what you want, its wrong, but hey if it helps you sleep at night

Why would he stick around? It's not like Thad Matta is known for developing players nor does he have that great of a team around him.

thats news to the rest of the basketball world. and they have alot of talent and bring in a top class next year, will be back to competing for NCs for the next few years, like they usually are, after this rebuilding year. No reason to leave. Pretty simple really. but you know, troll away

[ManualRam]

ha, no reason to leave? i can think of millions of reasons. this aint the 90s or even early 2000s. lotto money is hard to turn down.

now its trolling to acknowledge that kids leave early all the time, regardless of what they've said previously? someone's just being thick... and hopeful.

[LloydFree]

Nah, it doesn't. You believe what you want, its wrong, but hey if it helps you sleep at night

Why would he stick around? It's not like Thad Matta is known for developing players nor does he have that great of a team around him.

thats news to the rest of the basketball world. and they have alot of talent and bring in a top class next year, will be back to competing for NCs for the next few years, like they usually are, after this rebuilding year. No reason to leave. Pretty simple really. but you know, troll away

You may want to put your Ohio state fandom away for a minute and look at this logically. It doesn't matter what the player's initial intentions were. His intentions were no doubt influenced by him being labeled a "two year" talent, coming into this year. If D'angelo Russell is projected to go in the top 10 of the upcoming draft its almost a guarantee that he will declare for the draft. Top 10 players don't go back to school. The last top 10 projected player that stayed in school, I remember, was Jokim Noah, in 2006, and that was to chase a repeat title. That's almost a decade ago.
D'angelo Russell will be coming out if he's projected top 10.

[Negrodamus]

Nah, it doesn't. You believe what you want, its wrong, but hey if it helps you sleep at night

Why would he stick around? It's not like Thad Matta is known for developing players nor does he have that great of a team around him.

thats news to the rest of the basketball world. and they have alot of talent and bring in a top class next year, will be back to competing for NCs for the next few years, like they usually are, after this rebuilding year. No reason to leave. Pretty simple really. but you know, troll away

Aside from Evan Turner, who ended up being an extraordinary bust in the NBA, who has benefited from spending an additional year or two at Ohio State under Thad Matta? Did anyone help their draft stock? I know 5-star recruit Kosta Koufos fell off the face of the earth after an OK career at OSU, but he was only there for one year, so he doesn't really fit in this discussion. Former five star Deshaun Thomas is enjoying the continuation of his career in Barcelona. Maybe Sullinger? Former top 5 recruit in the country either duplicated or regressed in almost every statistic in his sophomore year. You'd think someone as highly touted as Sullinger would go quite high in the draft, but instead fell precipitously to 21st. Probably should have came out his freshman year.

Can't really find anyone.

[EMG518]

Maybe Sullinger? Former top 5 recruit in the country either duplicated or regressed in almost every statistic in his sophomore year. You'd think someone as highly touted as Sullinger would go quite high in the draft, but instead fell precipitously to 21st. Probably should have came out his freshman year.

Can't really find anyone.

His medical testing was red flagged. He would have went higher.

[Negrodamus]

Maybe Sullinger? Former top 5 recruit in the country either duplicated or regressed in almost every statistic in his sophomore year. You'd think someone as highly touted as Sullinger would go quite high in the draft, but instead fell precipitously to 21st. Probably should have came out his freshman year.

Can't really find anyone.

His medical testing was red flagged. He would have went higher.

You're correct, I had forgotten about that. 21st in what was considered a historically bad draft is still a drop in my mind. Especially since Embiid was just drafted 3rd with a similar situation on top of a fractured foot.

EDIT: I mistook this draft for the Kyrie Irving draft. I posted based off recollection of Harrellson launching a ball off Sullinger in the Elite 8 game. Either way, the point still stands.

[Ruzious]

By staying in school, he not only misses a year of salary - say $3 million - but he puts off becoming a free agent for a year - and he's making less than he would year after year after year. It's a huge cumulative effect.

And that's not even getting into the possibility of getting injured next season before he ever gets drafted.

[Marcus]

pretty much goes for most kids nowadays that come in with the expectancy to HAVE TO stick around for a fews years to get league notice. when their stock jumps like this i'm sure they take notice and mindsets change when dollar signs come into play. Maybe he planned on sticking around for a couple years, maybe even he should stick around for a couple years, nothing at all wrong however with striking while the iron is hot and taking advantage of hype that might not stick around past this year.

[MPrice25]

ha, no reason to leave? i can think of millions of reasons. this aint the 90s or even early 2000s. lotto money is hard to turn down.

now its trolling to acknowledge that kids leave early all the time, regardless of what they've said previously? someone's just being thick... and hopeful.

sounds like more trolling to me.

RealGM logic: you're wrong because i said so! it doesn't matter what facts you throw out or what he has said! its what i want to see happen instead of him staying at Ohio State so its guarenteed to happen!

[MPrice25]

Why would he stick around? It's not like Thad Matta is known for developing players nor does he have that great of a team around him.

thats news to the rest of the basketball world. and they have alot of talent and bring in a top class next year, will be back to competing for NCs for the next few years, like they usually are, after this rebuilding year. No reason to leave. Pretty simple really. but you know, troll away

You may want to put your Ohio state fandom away for a minute and look at this logically. It doesn't matter what the player's initial intentions were. His intentions were no doubt influenced by him being labeled a "two year" talent, coming into this year. If D'angelo Russell is projected to go in the top 10 of the upcoming draft its almost a guarantee that he will declare for the draft. Top 10 players don't go back to school. The last top 10 projected player that stayed in school, I remember, was Jokim Noah, in 2006, and that was to chase a repeat title. That's almost a decade ago.
D'angelo Russell will be coming out if he's projected top 10.

you might want to actually use facts instead making personal attacks and looking as clueless as it gets. Wheres the logic to any part of your post? i sure as hell dont see any. Russell isn't going anywhere, move along

[MPrice25]

Why would he stick around? It's not like Thad Matta is known for developing players nor does he have that great of a team around him.

thats news to the rest of the basketball world. and they have alot of talent and bring in a top class next year, will be back to competing for NCs for the next few years, like they usually are, after this rebuilding year. No reason to leave. Pretty simple really. but you know, troll away

Aside from Evan Turner, who ended up being an extraordinary bust in the NBA, who has benefited from spending an additional year or two at Ohio State under Thad Matta? Did anyone help their draft stock? I know 5-star recruit Kosta Koufos fell off the face of the earth after an OK career at OSU, but he was only there for one year, so he doesn't really fit in this discussion. Former five star Deshaun Thomas is enjoying the continuation of his career in Barcelona. Maybe Sullinger? Former top 5 recruit in the country either duplicated or regressed in almost every statistic in his sophomore year. You'd think someone as highly touted as Sullinger would go quite high in the draft, but instead fell precipitously to 21st. Probably should have came out his freshman year.

Can't really find anyone.

You know its the NBAs job to develop them in the NBA not Mattas right?
Funny how you ignore him turning Mike Conley into a top 5 pick?
Matta also got Cook drafted, as well as Koufos, Mullens, and Turner in the first round picks, none of themwere projected to be drafted in their draft class when they were coming out of HS. he also got the most out of deshaun thomas and aaron craft.

Matta is as good as it gets in CBB, one of the 3 best coaches in basketball. but you probably think a guy like cal has any coaching talent or ability because he gets guys who are already projected top 10 picks, but then destroys their draft stocks anyways (see Harrison twins, WCS, Johnson etc)

[MPrice25]

Maybe Sullinger? Former top 5 recruit in the country either duplicated or regressed in almost every statistic in his sophomore year. You'd think someone as highly touted as Sullinger would go quite high in the draft, but instead fell precipitously to 21st. Probably should have came out his freshman year.

Can't really find anyone.

His medical testing was red flagged. He would have went higher.

You're correct, I had forgotten about that. 21st in what was considered a historically bad draft is still a drop in my mind. Especially since Embiid was just drafted 3rd with a similar situation on top of a fractured foot.

EDIT: I mistook this draft for the Kyrie Irving draft. I posted based off recollection of Harrellson launching a ball off Sullinger in the Elite 8 game. Either way, the point still stands.

in what universe is that the same ? one was a career changer while the other was a sitting a year and should be fine?
either way your still wrong

[MPrice25]

By staying in school, he not only misses a year of salary - say $3 million - but he puts off becoming a free agent for a year - and he's making less than he would year after year after year. It's a huge cumulative effect.

And that's not even getting into the possibility of getting injured next season before he ever gets drafted.

yeah none of that matters.
and he can still get bank if he gets injured with insurance