Andrew Wiggins is Harrison Barnes

SlowPaced · Post #21 » by **SlowPaced** » Tue May 27, 2014 6:04 pm

Terrible comparison. Only similarity is that they both lack in creating shots for themselves. Wiggins is miles ahead of Barnes as an athlete and as a defender.

SirCharles3434 · Post #22 » by **SirCharles3434** » Tue May 27, 2014 6:19 pm

Nolan wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Can Kansas really afford to have another bust wing player?

Why can't they? Kansas is about winning NCAA titles not producing NBA stars.

Winning titles? If it wasnt for Memphis chocking away the title back in 2008, Kansas last title would be 1988. They do have a lot of bust players over the past few years.

Kobblehead · Post #23 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue May 27, 2014 6:25 pm

SlowPaced wrote:Terrible comparison. Only similarity is that they both lack in creating shots for themselves. Wiggins is miles ahead of Barnes as an athlete and as a defender.

Wiggins is vastly overrated as a defender. Obviously he has the tools to be the very best defender in the league, but he was not a great defender at Kansas this past season. His engagement level drifted.

ratul · Post #24 » by **ratul** » Tue May 27, 2014 6:33 pm

SlowPaced wrote:Terrible comparison. Only similarity is that they both lack in creating shots for themselves. Wiggins is miles ahead of Barnes as an athlete and as a defender.

Maybe more MKG than Barnes

Teen Girl Squad · Post #25 » by **Teen Girl Squad** » Tue May 27, 2014 6:36 pm

I actually really like this comparison but while more raw/a little better athlete, the main issue/factor is their drive/killer/instinct/feel for the game and whether or not they can consistently translate it at the NBA level. Barnes is definitely more a worst case scenario in regards to Wiggins but a good case study that should make people think a little more critically about his draft position/project-able success at the next level.

Massamba · Post #26 » by **Massamba** » Tue May 27, 2014 6:44 pm

Wiggins reminds me DeMar Dorozan coming from college.

Tave · Post #27 » by **Tave** » Tue May 27, 2014 6:48 pm

Barnes was a better shooter, stronger, and a better finisher than Wiggins his freshman year, but he scored slightly less on worse efficiency. Why? Because he didn't get to the line like Wiggins, he just sat back and launched one pull-up midrange jumper after another.

With Barnes, the criticism about his handles was well-warranted. He could not get to his spots on the floor. Wiggins is the opposite, he gets to the rim at will and just needs to work on finishing through contact.

The knocks on Wiggins handles are getting out of control. His dribble is already as good as most NBA SFs, and he showed rapid growth in that area between his junior year at Huntington and this past season. That is the last thing I'd worry about with him.

SlowPaced · Post #28 » by **SlowPaced** » Tue May 27, 2014 7:34 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
SlowPaced wrote:Terrible comparison. Only similarity is that they both lack in creating shots for themselves. Wiggins is miles ahead of Barnes as an athlete and as a defender.

Wiggins is vastly overrated as a defender. Obviously he has the tools to be the very best defender in the league, but he was not a great defender at Kansas this past season. His engagement level drifted.

Wiggins has had a reputation of playing down to his opponents since high school. I'm not counting on his college performance to predict his NBA performance. He's a lockdown defender when he's engaged.

SlowPaced · Post #29 » by **SlowPaced** » Tue May 27, 2014 7:35 pm

ratul wrote:
SlowPaced wrote:Terrible comparison. Only similarity is that they both lack in creating shots for themselves. Wiggins is miles ahead of Barnes as an athlete and as a defender.

Maybe more MKG than Barnes

I'd disagree with that as well. MKG can't shoot anything, Wiggins has a dependable mid range game. And Wiggins is much much quicker than MKG.

Kabookalu · Post #30 » by **Kabookalu** » Tue May 27, 2014 7:36 pm

I hope everyone thinks Wiggins will end up being a bust so he can fall to 20.

Mamba Venom · Post #31 » by **Mamba Venom** » Tue May 27, 2014 7:36 pm

I bet Wiggins makes more all-star teams than Barnes ever does.

DwnShft2Xcelr8 · Post #32 » by **DwnShft2Xcelr8** » Tue May 27, 2014 7:38 pm

I hope the first 6 teams in the draft think Wiggins will be a bust, too, so the Lakers can take a risk on him at #7.

Kabookalu · Post #33 » by **Kabookalu** » Tue May 27, 2014 7:40 pm

DwnShft2Xcelr8 wrote:I hope the first 6 teams in the draft think Wiggins will be a bust, too, so the Lakers can take a risk on him at #7.

Please no, you guys already have enough all time greats in your history as it is. Share some with the rest of us, and that goes to you too Boston.

Hans Embiid · Post #34 » by **Hans Embiid** » Tue May 27, 2014 7:40 pm

DwnShft2Xcelr8 wrote:I hope the first 6 teams in the draft think Wiggins will be a bust, too, so the Lakers can take a risk on him at #7.

no thanks not interested in a Westbrook-Wiggins-Love team.

TheSuzerain · Post #35 » by **TheSuzerain** » Tue May 27, 2014 7:44 pm

Wiggins is in a different tier athletically.

If Wiggins fails as a scorer, he will still be an elite defender and plus rebounder. Wiggins could disappoint, but he's not going to bust imo.

JonFromVA · Post #36 » by **JonFromVA** » Tue May 27, 2014 7:46 pm

Wiggins has the kind of explosive game and first step that can really expand at the NBA level. Barnes' didn't and hasn't.

It's funny Barnes was hyped so much as the next great SG of the future, when from what I've heard ... he played primarily PF in highschool. It's the kind of misconception we see often with these kids ... like people assuming Kyrie was a natural PG when he played primarily SG in highschool.

BarnabyJones · Post #37 » by **BarnabyJones** » Tue May 27, 2014 7:46 pm

SlowPaced wrote:And Wiggins is much much quicker than MKG.

I don't know about that. MKG is a pretty fast and explosive guy.

MinneOOPalis · Post #38 » by **MinneOOPalis** » Tue May 27, 2014 7:57 pm

Jeff Green, Harrison Barnes, Wes Johnson... Wiggins could very well end up being a better version of any of these guys..

Rapcity_11 · Post #39 » by **Rapcity_11** » Tue May 27, 2014 7:58 pm

Prokorov wrote:i think wiggins is more terrance ross then harrison barnes...

either way, he isnt a star. i think his celing is a great role player 3 and D guy

Hilarious. Not sure if you know what the word ceiling means in terms of prospects.

Hans Embiid · Post #40 » by **Hans Embiid** » Tue May 27, 2014 8:01 pm

Sakuragi_ wrote:Jeff Green, Harrison Barnes, Wes Johnson... Wiggins could very well end up being a better version of any of these guys..

He could also end up being a Hall of Famer.