Marvin Bagley

[Lalouie]

He played derozan, Powell and other NBA talent recently. Had 32pt

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[jonjames]

Bagley is a great talent but Zion is a generational talent. Im impressed by how mobile and quick his jump is around the basket. He has a nice slash and driving game from the top of key but hes not particulary skilled outside of transition plays running the floor and getting put backs or lobs. For myself age isnt too big of deal but its something to consider when evaluating players against their competition. he is quite old for his highschool class he should be in the 2016/2017 class. Also hes quite similar to chris walker from florida..not saying he will bust like him but he had a similar game. He doesnt have much of post game nor does he have strong perimeter skills to be stretch 4 so im not exactly sure what his current position is or will be.

As for Zion, I think its gotten to point where some ppl are just being overly critical just for the sake of pumping the brakes on his massive mixtape hype but the reality is if you watch actual games what hes shown at 16yrs old is truly special. No nba player has shown that type of physical prowess and sheer dominance at 16 ever. Not kobe, lebron, tmac, vince etc. The usual knocks on scouting reports for most young players are the following: jumpshot defense size strength motor..zion has some weakness as does any prospect out of high school those very same critques could be said for lebron at 16 17 18. Its way too early to make a fair assesment that early in players development. You can only make resaonable projections based off their current skillset and size/athleticism.

Obviously zion has a strong downhill game reminscient of lebron and julius randle,great handles for his size and great dexterity/shiftiness to his game that seperates him from your typical bully ball players. Alot of those bully ball players are ground bound while that is literally the opposite for zion. His explosion without even much momentum going to the rim is simply second to none. Hes not as good a passer as highschool lebron but who is? but hes a better outside shooter than lebron was at same age. Barring any freak injury hes the #1 prospect in high school basketball imo.

[DirtyDez]

A few sites actually had Zion ahead of him for awhile..how foolish

Ppl can't comprehend that the best HS player in a decade is all lunch pale and no flash.

[Lalouie]

Apparently he's now 6'10. 5" now wow

Where'd that come from

[B-Ball Freak]

Apparently he's now 6'10. 5" now wow

Where'd that come from

He doesn't look like it next to Derozan

[Lalouie]

Bagley is a great talent but Zion is a generational talent. Im impressed by how mobile and quick his jump is around the basket. He has a nice slash and driving game from the top of key but hes not particulary skilled outside of transition plays running the floor and getting put backs or lobs. For myself age isnt too big of deal but its something to consider when evaluating players against their competition. he is quite old for his highschool class he should be in the 2016/2017 class. Also hes quite similar to chris walker from florida..not saying he will bust like him but he had a similar game. He doesnt have much of post game nor does he have strong perimeter skills to be stretch 4 so im not exactly sure what his current position is or will be.

As for Zion, I think its gotten to point where some ppl are just being overly critical just for the sake of pumping the brakes on his massive mixtape hype but the reality is if you watch actual games what hes shown at 16yrs old is truly special. No nba player has shown that type of physical prowess and sheer dominance at 16 ever. Not kobe, lebron, tmac, vince etc. The usual knocks on scouting reports for most young players are the following: jumpshot defense size strength motor..zion has some weakness as does any prospect out of high school those very same critques could be said for lebron at 16 17 18. Its way too early to make a fair assesment that early in players development. You can only make resaonable projections based off their current skillset and size/athleticism.

Obviously zion has a strong downhill game reminscient of lebron and julius randle,great handles for his size and great dexterity/shiftiness to his game that seperates him from your typical bully ball players. Alot of those bully ball players are ground bound while that is literally the opposite for zion. His explosion without even much momentum going to the rim is simply second to none. Hes not as good a passer as highschool lebron but who is? but hes a better outside shooter than lebron was at same age. Barring any freak injury hes the #1 prospect in high school basketball imo.

So he's LeBron without the all around skillset. He's a huge dude so I hesitate at anyone so physically advanced for his age group because what ALWAYS happens is his peers catch up physically, and I'll name someone you forgot... Schea Cotton who was 6-5 as a freshman twenty years ago so I will equate that to Zions 6-7 physique today. Cotton was absolutely dominant and has at times been referred to as LeBron before LeBron.

I love your breakdown of zion but frankly it's made me even more wary of his generational tag. Particularly if he remains at 6-7 and remains a slasher cuz so far he's just about gifted slasher is what I gather I'll take Bagley's 6-11, it's easier for me to comprehend and he's where the NBA is headed anyway

[Justwar]

Zion is much more like a Larry Johnson which is very very good but not a generational talent. He's not even the consensus best sf, reddish has a lot of love right now

[B-Ball Freak]

Why is Bagley not going to college this year? He would be the number one pick in the 2018 draft

[nolang1]

Why is Bagley not going to college this year? He would be the number one pick in the 2018 draft

It's not too late. Andre Drummond reclassified and committed to UConn in late August when he was thought to have another year of prep school left.

[Lalouie]

Why is Bagley not going to college this year? He would be the number one pick in the 2018 draft

It's not too late. Andre Drummond reclassified and committed to UConn in late August when he was thought to have another year of prep school left.

there was a rumor floating around that he was a silent commit to UCLA but for reasons unexplained it was best to remain a "silent until August

Since you brought up August maybe his silent commit hinges on him reclassifying

[jonjames]

Zion is much more like a Larry Johnson which is very very good but not a generational talent. He's not even the consensus best sf, reddish has a lot of love right now

Larry johnson was athletic but still not even close to the athlete zion is. Zion is gonna blow up nationally his senior year.

[Kolkmania]

He moves like a guard in a PF/C body, but doesn't have the skillset to really take advantage with it imo. Defensively I like that he competes, but he lacks a huge wingspan/standing reach to really affect shots at the rim. He's of course a great talent, but I don't see the generational talent hype.

Remember that he's around 9/10 months younger than Markelle Fultz. I know he dominates, but he should since he's basically a senior.

Cameron Reddish + Zion Williamson > Marvin Bagley for me.

[PhilBlackson]

Can't think of 2-3 better prospects coming out of HS the past ten years.

Funny because I would easily take Durant and Davis over him.

Crazy thinking back to KD in college was putting up 27ppg, when do we ever hear of freshman even remotely coming close to that anymore?!

[crows2]

Can't think of 2-3 better prospects coming out of HS the past ten years.

Funny because I would easily take Durant and Davis over him.

Crazy thinking back to KD in college was putting up 27ppg, when do we ever hear of freshman even remotely coming close to that anymore?!

It depends whether you're talking about them as high school prospects or including their college careers. Davis certainly wasn't as hyped as Bagley in high school, although obviously after his college season he was clearly a generational-type talent and Bagley may never be the draft prospect that Davis was if he doesn't perform as well at college.

Durant played in HS and college over 10 years ago, so he doesn't really apply to DirtyDez's statement. If you're looking for freshman scorers on Durant's level, obviously Beasley came along the year after Durant and put up 26.2ppg (more than Durant who averaged 25.8). Since then the closest player to that mark was Fultz this year at 23.2ppg.

[Patsfan1081]

Why is Bagley not going to college this year? He would be the number one pick in the 2018 draft

It's not too late. Andre Drummond reclassified and committed to UConn in late August when he was thought to have another year of prep school left.

there was a rumor floating around that he was a silent commit to UCLA but for reasons unexplained it was best to remain a "silent until August

Since you brought up August maybe his silent commit hinges on him reclassifying

As a Celtics fan with the possibility of seeing two top five picks next summer that would be a wet dream. If that were to happen I'd give Danny Ainge my first born.

[Brauer]

Can someone please explain to me why he wouldn't reclassify? I really don't get it.

[Lalouie]

Can someone please explain to me why he wouldn't reclassify? I really don't get it.

I think he already tried or is currently trying.
While there's been talk about it, his last version is he's not worried about it, only working on getting better, which translates to me like he tried, failed, and thought "screw this".

Time is almost up though.. Someone said August is the deadline

[jonjames]

Bagley is a great talent but Zion is a generational talent. Im impressed by how mobile and quick his jump is around the basket. He has a nice slash and driving game from the top of key but hes not particulary skilled outside of transition plays running the floor and getting put backs or lobs. For myself age isnt too big of deal but its something to consider when evaluating players against their competition. he is quite old for his highschool class he should be in the 2016/2017 class. Also hes quite similar to chris walker from florida..not saying he will bust like him but he had a similar game. He doesnt have much of post game nor does he have strong perimeter skills to be stretch 4 so im not exactly sure what his current position is or will be.

As for Zion, I think its gotten to point where some ppl are just being overly critical just for the sake of pumping the brakes on his massive mixtape hype but the reality is if you watch actual games what hes shown at 16yrs old is truly special. No nba player has shown that type of physical prowess and sheer dominance at 16 ever. Not kobe, lebron, tmac, vince etc. The usual knocks on scouting reports for most young players are the following: jumpshot defense size strength motor..zion has some weakness as does any prospect out of high school those very same critques could be said for lebron at 16 17 18. Its way too early to make a fair assesment that early in players development. You can only make resaonable projections based off their current skillset and size/athleticism.

Obviously zion has a strong downhill game reminscient of lebron and julius randle,great handles for his size and great dexterity/shiftiness to his game that seperates him from your typical bully ball players. Alot of those bully ball players are ground bound while that is literally the opposite for zion. His explosion without even much momentum going to the rim is simply second to none. Hes not as good a passer as highschool lebron but who is? but hes a better outside shooter than lebron was at same age. Barring any freak injury hes the #1 prospect in high school basketball imo.

So he's LeBron without the all around skillset. He's a huge dude so I hesitate at anyone so physically advanced for his age group because what ALWAYS happens is his peers catch up physically, and I'll name someone you forgot... Schea Cotton who was 6-5 as a freshman twenty years ago so I will equate that to Zions 6-7 physique today. Cotton was absolutely dominant and has at times been referred to as LeBron before LeBron.

I love your breakdown of zion but frankly it's made me even more wary of his generational tag. Particularly if he remains at 6-7 and remains a slasher cuz so far he's just about gifted slasher is what I gather I'll take Bagley's 6-11, it's easier for me to comprehend and he's where the NBA is headed anyway

You take the better player bc hes better not the player who has the more percieved upside due to his taller height. Cotton is a cautionary tale indeed but his situation was more related to off the court issue than on the court. The ncaa screwed him over big time.

Zion might not even be 6'7 he looks to me 6'6 barely but doesnt matter his combo of size skill and athleticism hasnt been seen from wing positionin high school since lebron. He has quicker first step better handles more fluidity and shiftiness in his movement on the court than guys like barrett reddish langford at a much bigger size..its ridiculous.

He hasnt really looked like his old explosive self since the injury, still recovering and thats a huge concern going forward but his skill is being completely overshadowed by his athleticism right now. I would take him over any highschool prospect right now regardless of class.

[Lalouie]

Bagley is a great talent but Zion is a generational talent. Im impressed by how mobile and quick his jump is around the basket. He has a nice slash and driving game from the top of key but hes not particulary skilled outside of transition plays running the floor and getting put backs or lobs. For myself age isnt too big of deal but its something to consider when evaluating players against their competition. he is quite old for his highschool class he should be in the 2016/2017 class. Also hes quite similar to chris walker from florida..not saying he will bust like him but he had a similar game. He doesnt have much of post game nor does he have strong perimeter skills to be stretch 4 so im not exactly sure what his current position is or will be.

As for Zion, I think its gotten to point where some ppl are just being overly critical just for the sake of pumping the brakes on his massive mixtape hype but the reality is if you watch actual games what hes shown at 16yrs old is truly special. No nba player has shown that type of physical prowess and sheer dominance at 16 ever. Not kobe, lebron, tmac, vince etc. The usual knocks on scouting reports for most young players are the following: jumpshot defense size strength motor..zion has some weakness as does any prospect out of high school those very same critques could be said for lebron at 16 17 18. Its way too early to make a fair assesment that early in players development. You can only make resaonable projections based off their current skillset and size/athleticism.

Obviously zion has a strong downhill game reminscient of lebron and julius randle,great handles for his size and great dexterity/shiftiness to his game that seperates him from your typical bully ball players. Alot of those bully ball players are ground bound while that is literally the opposite for zion. His explosion without even much momentum going to the rim is simply second to none. Hes not as good a passer as highschool lebron but who is? but hes a better outside shooter than lebron was at same age. Barring any freak injury hes the #1 prospect in high school basketball imo.

So he's LeBron without the all around skillset. He's a huge dude so I hesitate at anyone so physically advanced for his age group because what ALWAYS happens is his peers catch up physically, and I'll name someone you forgot... Schea Cotton who was 6-5 as a freshman twenty years ago so I will equate that to Zions 6-7 physique today. Cotton was absolutely dominant and has at times been referred to as LeBron before LeBron.

I love your breakdown of zion but frankly it's made me even more wary of his generational tag. Particularly if he remains at 6-7 and remains a slasher cuz so far he's just about gifted slasher is what I gather I'll take Bagley's 6-11, it's easier for me to comprehend and he's where the NBA is headed anyway

You take the better player bc hes better not the player who has the more percieved upside due to his taller height. Cotton is a cautionary tale indeed but his situation was more related to off the court issue than on the court. The ncaa screwed him over big time.

Zion might not even be 6'7 he looks to me 6'6 barely but doesnt matter his combo of size skill and athleticism hasnt been seen from wing positionin high school since lebron. He has quicker first step better handles more fluidity and shiftiness in his movement on the court than guys like barrett reddish langford at a much bigger size..its ridiculous.

He hasnt really looked like his old explosive self since the injury, still recovering and thats a huge concern going forward but his skill is being completely overshadowed by his athleticism right now. I would take him over any highschool prospect right now regardless of class.

I'm sorry but the ncaa interfering with cotton's eligibility has nothing to do with how his basket play on court evolved.

[EricAnderson]

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Looks like he might be in next years draft after all