Marquese Chriss

Coeur · Post #21 » by **Coeur** » Sun Mar 6, 2016 12:12 am

ChrisTheFuturePaul wrote:
Fischella wrote:
ChrisTheFuturePaul wrote:I think he'd be an ideal project for a SF/PF who slides to PF in small ball lineups.

Starting to like the idea of him in New Orleans, hope he declares next year.

Nah, he is a big through and through, more so of a PF/C than a combo forward.

When you have SF's like Giannis out there I'd say it's within the realm of possibility he could be a combo forward (not a tweener). As long as he can move well laterally and train hard at hitting the 3 ball consistently.

If a team decides he can play the 3 then he's a top 5-6 pick. Even getting picked at 20 the team will check and hope he's a 3.

No-Man · Post #22 » by **No-Man** » Sun Mar 6, 2016 11:03 am

Coeur wrote:
ChrisTheFuturePaul wrote:
Fischella wrote:Nah, he is a big through and through, more so of a PF/C than a combo forward.

When you have SF's like Giannis out there I'd say it's within the realm of possibility he could be a combo forward (not a tweener). As long as he can move well laterally and train hard at hitting the 3 ball consistently.

If a team decides he can play the 3 then he's a top 5-6 pick. Even getting picked at 20 the team will check and hope he's a 3.

LOL have you been following basketball the last two years? a SF? :lol:

he will have more value if he can play C

Coeur · Post #23 » by **Coeur** » Sun Mar 6, 2016 7:06 pm

Fischella wrote:
Coeur wrote:
ChrisTheFuturePaul wrote:
When you have SF's like Giannis out there I'd say it's within the realm of possibility he could be a combo forward (not a tweener). As long as he can move well laterally and train hard at hitting the 3 ball consistently.

If a team decides he can play the 3 then he's a top 5-6 pick. Even getting picked at 20 the team will check and hope he's a 3.

LOL have you been following basketball the last two years? a SF? he will have more value if he can play C

Lol? Don't tell me about the last 2 years changing the fact that an athletes highest ceiling is at the position where he has the greatest physical advantages and the least disadvantages.

Zach Lavine has a higher ceiling at pg

Wiggins has a higher ceiling as a sg than as a sf

Chriss may never play the "3". But teams will certainly rather him be one of the biggest 3's in the league than be a terribly undersized 5

No-Man · Post #24 » by **No-Man** » Sun Mar 6, 2016 8:37 pm

Coeur wrote:
Fischella wrote:
Coeur wrote:If a team decides he can play the 3 then he's a top 5-6 pick. Even getting picked at 20 the team will check and hope he's a 3.

LOL have you been following basketball the last two years? a SF? he will have more value if he can play C

Lol? Don't tell me about the last 2 years changing the fact that an athletes highest ceiling is at the position where he has the greatest physical advantages and the least disadvantages.

Zach Lavine has a higher ceiling at pg

Wiggins has a higher ceiling as a sg than as a sf

Chriss may never play the "3". But teams will certainly rather him be one of the biggest 3's in the league than be a terribly undersized 5

You haven't gotten the memo apparently, the advantage is on speed, not on size.

Post #25 » by **NuggetsWY** » Sun Mar 6, 2016 10:23 pm

Won't compare him to Rabb - Rabb plays low - Chriss seems best outside or driving - Chriss seems like a high potential scorer - not sure where he translates into the NBA - a team looking for a scoring 3 that could play a little stretch 4 might really like this guy but I don't see him going in the lottery, but there might be a couple teams that would gamble on him that high

ChrisTheFuturePaul · Post #26 » by **ChrisTheFuturePaul** » Sun Mar 6, 2016 11:45 pm

Marquese Chriss 6'9" 225
Tobias Harris 6'9" 235
Carmelo Anthony (Syracuse) 6'8" 220
Aaron Gordon 6'9" 220
Giannis Antetokounmpo 6'11" 222

I'll be really interested to see his speed tests at combine. That's all.

BoyzNTheHood · Post #27 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Tue Mar 8, 2016 2:06 am

Does anyone have any good scouting video on him besides the DX video on him versus Ivan Rabb?

doordoor123 · Post #28 » by **doordoor123** » Thu Mar 10, 2016 3:31 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:Does anyone have any good scouting video on him besides the DX video on him versus Ivan Rabb?

I've seen him live twice.

Kevin Willis · Post #29 » by **Kevin Willis** » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:35 pm

doordoor123 wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:Does anyone have any good scouting video on him besides the DX video on him versus Ivan Rabb?

I've seen him live twice.

Why are his rebounding numbers so low? Does he need to learn that skill? He should be easily averaging 10 per game.

Patsfan1081 · Post #30 » by **Patsfan1081** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:59 pm

Why is Chris's not in any mocks besides Ford's?

EMG518 · Post #31 » by **EMG518** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:30 pm

Patsfan1081 wrote:Why is Chris's not in any mocks besides Ford's?

He is not just in Ford's mock, he has him ranked 8th on his big board. I don't see it, it doesn't make sense to me. My only explanation is he needs to get clicks and moves guys around to keep it interesting and Chriss will be moved back at some point.

slc24 · Post #32 » by **slc24** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:59 pm

I actually think he's not far off from a poor mans Wiggins. Compare their per 40 stats from their freshman years, they are very similar. I think Wiggins was much more dynamic with the ball, and a lot further along offensively. Athletically they are similar, quick second jumpers. Chriss is definitely less far along with his skill level as he has only been playing for a few years, but his shooting form is nice and he is extremely active with a high motor.

I think he'll end up something like a better Mo Harkless as a big 3 and D SF who can play PF as well. But he has a little Wiggins in him, and depending on how he develops his ball handling and iso game, he could be really good.

doordoor123 · Post #33 » by **doordoor123** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:24 pm

Kevin Willis wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:Does anyone have any good scouting video on him besides the DX video on him versus Ivan Rabb?

I've seen him live twice.

Why are his rebounding numbers so low? Does he need to learn that skill? He should be easily averaging 10 per game.

He plays small forward, but he's a power forward. He's quick enough laterally to guard wings and you don't want a 6'10 mobile guy guarding you -- it's good that he's able to play on wings. In the NBA he won't be as effective in that role and should be more of a power forward.
He's a very underrated passer, contorts his body through contact, very quick second jump (like Wiggins), explosive first step and can guard wings. He also has a great frame and should have a great body when he develops it.

No-Man · Post #34 » by **No-Man** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:13 pm

He plays PF and C, never plays SF for Washington.

doordoor123 · Post #35 » by **doordoor123** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:02 pm

Fischella wrote:He plays PF and C, never plays SF for Washington.

He starts at PF, but often slides to SF for defense.

BoyzNTheHood · Post #36 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:37 am

His rebounding is definitely a concern. His TRB% is only slightly above 10, which is Bargnani territory, but aside from that his package of skills is very intriguing.

CoreConcept · Post #37 » by **CoreConcept** » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:32 am

Patsfan1081 wrote:Why is Chris's not in any mocks besides Ford's?

He's in draftexpress's 2017 mock draft at #12

Kalela · Post #38 » by **Kalela** » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:56 am

Just saw against San Diego State. He looks like a player with a lot of potential. Good size, crazy athlete, decent defender and he can hit the 3. He is not very aggressive though. I got a Jeff Green vibe from him. He may play the 4 or 5 for Washington but the guy is more suited to the SF position than the 4 or 5. If he stays another year and improves his game he will definitely be a high lottery pick.

Coeur · Post #39 » by **Coeur** » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:04 am

Kalela wrote:Just saw against San Diego State. He looks like a player with a lot of potential. Good size, crazy athlete, decent defender and he can hit the 3. He is not very aggressive though. I got a Jeff Green vibe from him. He may play the 4 or 5 for Washington but the guy is more suited to the SF position than the 4 or 5. If he stays another year and improves his game he will definitely be a high lottery pick.

he is a lottery pick this year. He is an NBA 3. Then the teams look at this draft they'll consider Simmons and Ingram NBA 3's. Then when you rank the players by position- because of Simmons/Ingram talent level Chriss is THE ONLY player you can even write on the same list as those 2 guys. And he's an obvious #3.

Hurley92 · Post #40 » by **Hurley92** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:40 pm

I don't get how Rabb has more NBA upside than chriss. Chriss looks so much more bouncy and skilled it's not even close. And his body is more cut. I love chriss and would take him top 5 no doubt. He is a young amare or bosh