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Re: 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#21 » by sikma42 » Fri Jul 8, 2016 2:16 am

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Duke4life831 wrote:There are two elite prospects in this draft Ayton and Bamba. Many of the recruiting gurus are already considering Bamba the better Prospect and 2 years from now I think Bamba will be the way choice. 6'11 with a 7'9 wingspan and a 9'6 standing reach. Elite defender and shot blocker, very good athlete for his size. He is now starting to put on muscle. Also has great hands and a good shooting touch.


I was hanging out with Ayton's Mom when the two played each other at EYBL a few months ago. Bamba came out hard but I thought Ayton was the better talent (one thing that bothered me was that he has a strange way of running). Bamba doesn't really have any moves at all but is a very good athlete. But they both looked like good prospects, I just preferred Ayton. There was some kid that dunked on Bamba so hard it was insane, he also had a great game too in front of Calipari etc. I just can't remember his name. I'll go check the packet later

Was also impressed with how athletic Bagley was but also didnt like how he seemed to shy away from contact on the boards at times. Seemed like he was trying to develop his game his passing but it still needs work. Overall, he had a lot of tools and could be very special.


I can totally understand why someone would prefer Ayton over Bamba. When I say I think Bamba is the better prospect, that in no way is me trying to say anything negative about Ayton. I think Ayton is an elite prospect. He moves well for his size, inconsistent jumper but the form is solid. Not a huge leaper but definitely is a quick jumper. Plus the dude is freaking massive. Has great two way potential.

But to me Bamba is the best high school prospect I have seen since Anthony Davis. I actually think Bamba is a better defender than Davis was at the same time. Davis had the better offensive game though. Bamba is just freakishly long plus really athletic. Then you add in that he has great instincts on defense and shot blocking. I also like his offensive potential because of his soft touch and super soft hands. Again both elite prospects, just love Bamba's freakish potential. In the game in between Bamba and Ayton I thought Bamba had the better game and looked like the better player in my opinion. Bamba had 13 and 12 with 2 blocks. Ayton had 7 and 5

And Im with you on Bagley. If I were to draft any player who is in high school right now I might go with Bagley. The dude has crazy potential


Bamba def had the better game between the two, I thought Ayton should have been more aggressive. But Ayton also wasn't featured in that game either, he took a backseat to his teammate Brandon McCoy, who played Bamba very well. But Bamba was impressive, I'll just have to watch some more tape. When I was there I focused on watchign Bagley, Ayton and Porter Jr. I havent seen as much of Bamba yet
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Post#22 » by Duke4life831 » Fri Jul 8, 2016 2:23 am

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I was hanging out with Ayton's Mom when the two played each other at EYBL a few months ago. Bamba came out hard but I thought Ayton was the better talent (one thing that bothered me was that he has a strange way of running). Bamba doesn't really have any moves at all but is a very good athlete. But they both looked like good prospects, I just preferred Ayton. There was some kid that dunked on Bamba so hard it was insane, he also had a great game too in front of Calipari etc. I just can't remember his name. I'll go check the packet later

Was also impressed with how athletic Bagley was but also didnt like how he seemed to shy away from contact on the boards at times. Seemed like he was trying to develop his game his passing but it still needs work. Overall, he had a lot of tools and could be very special.


I can totally understand why someone would prefer Ayton over Bamba. When I say I think Bamba is the better prospect, that in no way is me trying to say anything negative about Ayton. I think Ayton is an elite prospect. He moves well for his size, inconsistent jumper but the form is solid. Not a huge leaper but definitely is a quick jumper. Plus the dude is freaking massive. Has great two way potential.

But to me Bamba is the best high school prospect I have seen since Anthony Davis. I actually think Bamba is a better defender than Davis was at the same time. Davis had the better offensive game though. Bamba is just freakishly long plus really athletic. Then you add in that he has great instincts on defense and shot blocking. I also like his offensive potential because of his soft touch and super soft hands. Again both elite prospects, just love Bamba's freakish potential. In the game in between Bamba and Ayton I thought Bamba had the better game and looked like the better player in my opinion. Bamba had 13 and 12 with 2 blocks. Ayton had 7 and 5

And Im with you on Bagley. If I were to draft any player who is in high school right now I might go with Bagley. The dude has crazy potential


Bamba def had the better game between the two, I thought Ayton should have been more aggressive. But Ayton also wasn't featured in that game either, he took a backseat to his teammate Brandon McCoy, who played Bamba very well. But Bamba was impressive, I'll just have to watch some more tape. When I was there I focused on watchign Bagley, Ayton and Porter Jr. I havent seen as much of Bamba yet


Porter Jr is someone I'm not that high on a everyone else is. Really good size, good athlete, good shooter, has all the tools to be a top pick. But I question his motor, I get a Barnes 2.0 vibe from him
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#23 » by B-Ball Freak » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:13 pm

Bagley has the highest ceiling in high school hoops right now?
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Post#24 » by EMG518 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:54 pm

Is Isaac Bonga expected to declare for the 2018 draft?
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Post#25 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:03 pm

B-Ball Freak wrote:Bagley has the highest ceiling in high school hoops right now?


Yes. Now there have been some rumblings on him not being the hardest worker so I have no clue if he ever comes close to that ceiling. But ya he has the highest ceiling for a high school player in quite some time. Giles had that before his knee injuries but ya Bagley is a freak. Right now I would put him up there as a high school prospect with the like of KD, Oden (prior to injuries he was a cant miss prospect, especially as a high schooler) and Davis. I just worry a little about the rumblings of his work ethic.
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Post#26 » by NO-KG-AI » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:37 am

I haven't watched Ayton much yet. Hope he's as good as advertised. The big time C prospects almost always flame out :/


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Post#27 » by Marcus » Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:15 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:I haven't watched Ayton much yet. Hope he's as good as advertised. The big time C prospects almost always flame out :/


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The talent is definitely there but I don't see the killer instinct being that strong. Big kid. Nice skills. Good Potential. Just wonder how he'll do with adversity. Wasn't super impressive facing that during the recent Hoop Summit.
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Post#28 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:40 am

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NO-KG-AI wrote:I haven't watched Ayton much yet. Hope he's as good as advertised. The big time C prospects almost always flame out :/


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The talent is definitely there but I don't see the killer instinct being that strong. Big kid. Nice skills. Good Potential. Just wonder how he'll do with adversity. Wasn't super impressive facing that during the recent Hoop Summit.


Ya he's one of those bigs that checks everything off the checklist. Legit size? check. Strong? check. Athletic? check. Good shooting form? check and so on and so on. You can try and come up with all the physical tools you want in a big and Id bet Ayton checks them off easily. But with all that said, he doesn't dominate like he should, he's way to inconsistent and you question if he has the fire and work ethic to get the best out of him. But if the dude puts it all together he is an elite prospect
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Post#29 » by Chuck Everett » Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:03 am

A big man still needs guards to give them the ball. A big man isn't built through offensive rebounding alone. If Ayton has all the tools, you'll be happy to see him play with competent guards who know how to feed the big fella.
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#30 » by Jory04 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:32 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
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Duke4life831 wrote:There are two elite prospects in this draft Ayton and Bamba. Many of the recruiting gurus are already considering Bamba the better Prospect and 2 years from now I think Bamba will be the way choice. 6'11 with a 7'9 wingspan and a 9'6 standing reach. Elite defender and shot blocker, very good athlete for his size. He is now starting to put on muscle. Also has great hands and a good shooting touch.


I was hanging out with Ayton's Mom when the two played each other at EYBL a few months ago. Bamba came out hard but I thought Ayton was the better talent (one thing that bothered me was that he has a strange way of running). Bamba doesn't really have any moves at all but is a very good athlete. But they both looked like good prospects, I just preferred Ayton. There was some kid that dunked on Bamba so hard it was insane, he also had a great game too in front of Calipari etc. I just can't remember his name. I'll go check the packet later

Was also impressed with how athletic Bagley was but also didnt like how he seemed to shy away from contact on the boards at times. Seemed like he was trying to develop his game his passing but it still needs work. Overall, he had a lot of tools and could be very special.


I can totally understand why someone would prefer Ayton over Bamba. When I say I think Bamba is the better prospect, that in no way is me trying to say anything negative about Ayton. I think Ayton is an elite prospect. He moves well for his size, inconsistent jumper but the form is solid. Not a huge leaper but definitely is a quick jumper. Plus the dude is freaking massive. Has great two way potential.

But to me Bamba is the best high school prospect I have seen since Anthony Davis. I actually think Bamba is a better defender than Davis was at the same time. Davis had the better offensive game though. Bamba is just freakishly long plus really athletic. Then you add in that he has great instincts on defense and shot blocking. I also like his offensive potential because of his soft touch and super soft hands. Again both elite prospects, just love Bamba's freakish potential. In the game in between Bamba and Ayton I thought Bamba had the better game and looked like the better player in my opinion. Bamba had 13 and 12 with 2 blocks. Ayton had 7 and 5

And Im with you on Bagley. If I were to draft any player who is in high school right now I might go with Bagley. The dude has crazy potential


Not sure about AD, but he reminds me a ton of Tyson Chandler coming out of high school.
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#31 » by jrob23 » Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:58 am

I think it will come close but fall just short of the 2017 class and probably is slightly better than 2016 which is very good and very deep. So 2017>2018>2016
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Post#32 » by toussaud » Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:32 am

i am in love with gary trent's son gary trent jr. he's like a more athletic version of curry. dude's stroke is like a machine lol. he WILL be a top 10 pick. .


KeVaughn Allen at Florida is a kid who if he improves his stroke from outside has lotto talent. i think he projects first round for 2018
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Post#33 » by Marcus » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:54 am

I know he's not on anybody's draft boards for 2018 but anybody else besides me like Trae Young?
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Post#34 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:37 pm

toussaud wrote:i am in love with gary trent's son gary trent jr. he's like a more athletic version of curry. dude's stroke is like a machine lol. he WILL be a top 10 pick. .


KeVaughn Allen at Florida is a kid who if he improves his stroke from outside has lotto talent. i think he projects first round for 2018


Streaky shooter and his athleticism will be a question mark in the NBA. Don't think he ever really becomes a consistent sharp shooter because his form. Both elbows are bowed out when he shoots. Won't be surprised if he's not a OAD and if he is it will be in the 20s
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Post#35 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:39 pm

Marcus wrote:I know he's not on anybody's draft boards for 2018 but anybody else besides me like Trae Young?


The dude is a great high school player and will be a great college player. But I think he's going to be the next Tyus Jones. Great at those two levels but to small and not athletic enough to be great in the NBA.
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Post#36 » by Marcus » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:54 pm

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Marcus wrote:I know he's not on anybody's draft boards for 2018 but anybody else besides me like Trae Young?


The dude is a great high school player and will be a great college player. But I think he's going to be the next Tyus Jones. Great at those two levels but to small and not athletic enough to be great in the NBA.


Yeah that's the part that scares me. I want to love his game but those limitations at some level proves to be too much to overcome. I had high hopes for Tyus as well if you go back and check the post history but I gotta come to terms at this point I guess.

I think with Trae the Steph Curry light he plays with might be his gift and curse going forward. I hope somewhere the kid learns to dig in and go pitbull on defense because I think that's where the league will be able to rule him out first and foremost. Also not buying that whole 6'2" thing.
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Post#37 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:12 am

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Marcus wrote:I know he's not on anybody's draft boards for 2018 but anybody else besides me like Trae Young?


The dude is a great high school player and will be a great college player. But I think he's going to be the next Tyus Jones. Great at those two levels but to small and not athletic enough to be great in the NBA.


Yeah that's the part that scares me. I want to love his game but those limitations at some level proves to be too much to overcome. I had high hopes for Tyus as well if you go back and check the post history but I gotta come to terms at this point I guess.

I think with Trae the Steph Curry light he plays with might be his gift and curse going forward. I hope somewhere the kid learns to dig in and go pitbull on defense because I think that's where the league will be able to rule him out first and foremost. Also not buying that whole 6'2" thing.


He's not 6'2. He's 6'1 at most with big shoes. The problem he gets into a lot is he sometimes thinks he's Steph Curry light and he takes some really dumb shots but isn't the same shooter Curry is. For as good of a shooter he is, he sure does have bad shooting numbers way to often. He's got a great handle, vision and passing ability. If I'm him, I stop trying to be the next Curry and try and be the next Tyus. I think Tyus is going to be a solid backup for the majority of his career and be a great backup pg. He takes smart shots and is very smart with the ball. Young needs to do the same, real in the crazy shots and accept being the super smart crafty player
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#38 » by Marcus » Mon Aug 1, 2016 6:19 pm

Couple kids I want the board's opinion on.

Wendell Carter who is a favorite of mines. I think the kid has some serious game. He isn't as fast as some of the other bigs in that class but I love the stretch potential, solid footwork on the block, NBA physique, and rim protection. I see him slated around mid-first on mocks. Granted I haven't dug to deep into the prospective 2018 class but from the kids I have watched (Ayton, Duvall, Bamba, Porter, Troy Brown) I think he's right up there with those guys in terms of talent maybe not so much in potential but the kid is very skilled already.

Second kid is Collin Sexton. I've seen his name floating around the boards and I've watched a few games with him. Not seeing his name in the mocks just yet and I didn't get a chance to really see him in full flourish against decent to good comp. What are the general opinions on him on the board?
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Post#39 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Aug 1, 2016 8:44 pm

Marcus wrote:Couple kids I want the board's opinion on.

Wendell Carter who is a favorite of mines. I think the kid has some serious game. He isn't as fast as some of the other bigs in that class but I love the stretch potential, solid footwork on the block, NBA physique, and rim protection. I see him slated around mid-first on mocks. Granted I haven't dug to deep into the prospective 2018 class but from the kids I have watched (Ayton, Duvall, Bamba, Porter, Troy Brown) I think he's right up there with those guys in terms of talent maybe not so much in potential but the kid is very skilled already.

Second kid is Collin Sexton. I've seen his name floating around the boards and I've watched a few games with him. Not seeing his name in the mocks just yet and I didn't get a chance to really see him in full flourish against decent to good comp. What are the general opinions on him on the board?


The more I watch Carter the more I just think of Al Horford. Wendell is becoming more explosive but hes still not a great athlete for a 4 in the NBA. He also doesnt have the size to be a full time 5 (6'10 maybe but does have a 7'4 wingspan). He has really been working on his jumper and should be a good 3 point shooter down the road. The dude is a beast on the boards and a really good shot blocker. I see him as a more athletic Al Horford as his ceiling. But can easily get lost in the shuffle as well because he doesnt really fit in one position (kinda like Thomas Robinson). Still hoping K pulls it off and Duke gets the Bamba/Carter front court next year, scary. I think Carter might be the best college player out of the elite group though for their one year. Just doesnt have the same NBA potential as some of those other guys. Sexton just kinda came out of nowhere the last few months. Lightening quick and really explosive. Have question with his jumper, kinda slow and think he will need to really tweak it for the NBA. Also not much of a passer right now. Right now just a lightening quick PG that still needs a lot of refining compared to other guys his age. But gotta like his potential

Right now I think its a 3 horse race for the #1 spot between Bamba, Ayton and Porter. Right now I have Bamba #1, now hes up to 7 feet with almost a 7'10 wingspan. That plus his athleticism and elite shot blocking timing, plus great soft hands and a very soft touch around the rim. He looks like a better and way more athletic version of Gobert. I question Porter's motor but damn the dude has scary potential with his size, skill and athleticism. Ayton just always leaves me with wanting more, but has all the physical tools.
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#40 » by Marcus » Mon Aug 1, 2016 8:58 pm

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Marcus wrote:Couple kids I want the board's opinion on.

Wendell Carter who is a favorite of mines. I think the kid has some serious game. He isn't as fast as some of the other bigs in that class but I love the stretch potential, solid footwork on the block, NBA physique, and rim protection. I see him slated around mid-first on mocks. Granted I haven't dug to deep into the prospective 2018 class but from the kids I have watched (Ayton, Duvall, Bamba, Porter, Troy Brown) I think he's right up there with those guys in terms of talent maybe not so much in potential but the kid is very skilled already.

Second kid is Collin Sexton. I've seen his name floating around the boards and I've watched a few games with him. Not seeing his name in the mocks just yet and I didn't get a chance to really see him in full flourish against decent to good comp. What are the general opinions on him on the board?


The more I watch Carter the more I just think of Al Horford. Wendell is becoming more explosive but hes still not a great athlete for a 4 in the NBA. He also doesnt have the size to be a full time 5 (6'10 maybe but does have a 7'4 wingspan). He has really been working on his jumper and should be a good 3 point shooter down the road. The dude is a beast on the boards and a really good shot blocker. I see him as a more athletic Al Horford as his ceiling. But can easily get lost in the shuffle as well because he doesnt really fit in one position (kinda like Thomas Robinson). Still hoping K pulls it off and Duke gets the Bamba/Carter front court next year, scary. I think Carter might be the best college player out of the elite group though for their one year. Just doesnt have the same NBA potential as some of those other guys. Sexton just kinda came out of nowhere the last few months. Lightening quick and really explosive. Have question with his jumper, kinda slow and think he will need to really tweak it for the NBA. Also not much of a passer right now. Right now just a lightening quick PG that still needs a lot of refining compared to other guys his age. But gotta like his potential

Right now I think its a 3 horse race for the #1 spot between Bamba, Ayton and Porter. Right now I have Bamba #1, now hes up to 7 feet with almost a 7'10 wingspan. That plus his athleticism and elite shot blocking timing, plus great soft hands and a very soft touch around the rim. He looks like a better and way more athletic version of Gobert. I question Porter's motor but damn the dude has scary potential with his size, skill and athleticism. Ayton just always leaves me with wanting more, but has all the physical tools.


yeah that's the same problem I have with Ayton as well. I think the kid is a freak and has tons of potential to be a great big man in the NBA but his fire or lack thereof could be scary if he doesn't ramp it up. Kid could possibly find himself out worked for the top spot with the other bigs in the class.

Bamba I'm still iffy on but I'm giving it time. Any kind of post hook or baby jumper on that kid would be scary alone when combined with the other things he does on the floor.

Didn't peg the Horford comp on Carter but I like it. I had a big Milsap comp but I can see how Horford works. I love his mean streak too and apparently he's been impressive at the recent camps with how hard he works on the floor.

With Porter I still haven't figured out if its smooth or slow so I'm reserving judgement. I've seen a Paul Pierce comp for Jayson Tatum but I'm not so sure it wouldn't fit Porter better if he put some size on.

You think Sexton has one and done skill in him?
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