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Re: Markelle Fultz 

Post#21 » by GimmeDat » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:40 am

Yeah, Rose doesn't come to mind. Wade's probably the closest that comes to mind - smooth athlete, makes the game look effortless, crafty scorer, acrobatic at the rim, can create for themselves and others, in between guard spots height wise but makes up for it with length.
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Post#22 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:49 am

GimmeDat wrote:Yeah, Rose doesn't come to mind. Wade's probably the closest that comes to mind - smooth athlete, makes the game look effortless, crafty scorer, acrobatic at the rim, can create for themselves and others, in between guard spots height wise but makes up for it with length.


Ya this. Rose really relied on his athleticism and that was fine in his early career because he was an elite athlete, basically on Westrbooks level. Fultz is not that kind of an athlete. You can make the argument hes the 3rd best athlete between him DSJ and Ball. DSJ is clearly the better athlete between the two. Fultz has good athleticism, never going to say its a negative in his game. But is more smooth, crafty and great body control which allows him to finish with ease near the rim. Much closer to Wade as an athlete than Rose. I think some people forget just how crazy explosive and quick Rose was before all the injuries.
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Re: Markelle Fultz 

Post#23 » by Baz » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:26 am

I hope we can somehow land this guy.
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Post#24 » by jonjames » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:52 am

I wouldn't call him a great athlete by any means he's more deceptive athletic to me. From what i've seen he lacks elevation around the rim, doesn't possess a quick first step but can still get to where he wants to go due to his handles. He does have great body control, shifty, herky jerky playstyle, and good leaping ability off one foot. His physical profile and playing tempo really reminds me of D'Angelo Russell minus the passing/court vision. Weird..I am very high on D'Lo but Im not sold on Fultz being a #1 caliber pick for some reason. Verdict is still out on him..
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Post#25 » by EMG518 » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:35 am

How can anyone doubt Fultz, he looks like a future top 10 player in the league. Surefire #1 pick.
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Post#26 » by Upperclass » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:42 am

He has some of the best touch of any guard ive seen.. its uncanny. Very Kyrie-like.. but their games arent very similar otherwise. He plays and moves like someone much taller.
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Post#27 » by Kolkmania » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:11 am

jonjames wrote:I wouldn't call him a great athlete by any means he's more deceptive athletic to me. From what i've seen he lacks elevation around the rim, doesn't possess a quick first step but can still get to where he wants to go due to his handles. He does have great body control, shifty, herky jerky playstyle, and good leaping ability off one foot. His physical profile and playing tempo really reminds me of D'Angelo Russell minus the passing/court vision. Weird..I am very high on D'Lo but Im not sold on Fultz being a #1 caliber pick for some reason. Verdict is still out on him..


That's correct, only the opposite way. He floats around, with a tip toe way of running like he's not caring but he is very athletic. Some of these fastbreak dunks and alley oops are proof of that, it's just that he's misleading us with his incredible smooth half court style of play.

I need to see him against actual NBA caliber guards before I form my verdict on him, my biggest criticism on Russell was his ability to get to the rim with his mediocre quickness. So far Fultz has no problem with that whatsoever. Same point on the defensive end, not sure if he's able to defend the point guard position in the NBA.
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Post#28 » by reanimator » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:17 am

C'mon Fultz is a much better athlete than DLo. Though I get the stylistic comparison, don't know about him being Wade athletic since Wade was in that 220-230 range, much like Harden, but I think Roy is reasonable.
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Post#29 » by HotelVitale » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:29 pm

jonjames wrote:I wouldn't call him a great athlete by any means he's more deceptive athletic to me. From what i've seen he lacks elevation around the rim, doesn't possess a quick first step but can still get to where he wants to go due to his handles. He does have great body control, shifty, herky jerky playstyle, and good leaping ability off one foot. His physical profile and playing tempo really reminds me of D'Angelo Russell minus the passing/court vision. Weird..I am very high on D'Lo but Im not sold on Fultz being a #1 caliber pick for some reason. Verdict is still out on him..


Hmm. Russell is probably a below-average athlete for a NBA 1/2 (at least as far as quickness and burst go), and I'd hope we've stepped back from talking about his amazing passing/vision (2 years of shaky passing stats should outweigh a couple of cool highlights from college). Russell's a solid player, but he's more of a dangerous streak shooter who can slide between the defense on the perimeter. Still stinks at getting to the basket and finishing, is still reliant on volume-shooting from 18-25 ft.
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Post#30 » by cksdayoff » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:37 pm

reanimator wrote:C'mon Fultz is a much better athlete than DLo. Though I get the stylistic comparison, don't know about him being Wade athletic since Wade was in that 220-230 range, much like Harden, but I think Roy is reasonable.


fultz is in the same situation at washington as dlo in ohio st. he will have to carry the team but that's where the similarities end. fultz is a much better athlete than dlo, dlo has a quicker release on his shot, but fultz has beautiful form on his shot too.

haven't seen fultz post up, i've seen dlo post up a little bit in college, but fultz attacks the basket much more than dlo, and has the ability to finish with an array of moves around the basket and finish on contact. at 6'4, i've seen dunk where his elbow reaches the rim.
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Post#31 » by DK-All Day » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:42 pm

Fultz may be the best PG prospect to come out in a decade. Things look too easy for him.
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Post#32 » by B-Ball Freak » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:31 pm

Him and AD....wow would be very amazing to see them on the same team
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Re: Markelle Fultz 

Post#33 » by Cammo101 » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:00 pm

It's way too early to start declaring Fultz the lock top pick or the best point guard prospect in a decade. The kid is obviously a tremendous talent, but he hasn't played against anyone with a pulse yet. What he does against the Northern Arizona's and Cal State Fullerton's of the world doesn't have much relevance to his NBA future.

That's not to say he won't be those things, it is very possible. Just a little early to get the hyperbole machine going.
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Post#34 » by Lord Cuban » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:03 am

He will be a MAVS player...
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Post#35 » by thamadkant » Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:43 am

Pick 1 in my list
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Post#36 » by ItsThatEasy » Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:49 pm

With all the talk about his athleticism one thing has clearly stuck out to me.

He's an above average one leg jumper but off two feet vert he's not very impressive.

The Westbrook's and Rose's are equally adept at jumping off two as they are one.

Kobe was actually a below average two foot leaper, so it's unfair to say Fultz in not athletic. He'll be able to succeed athletically if he understands his strengths and weaknesses.
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Post#37 » by Ruzious » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:24 pm

It is hard to differentiate him a lot from Russell at this time, but I'd say he's a little more explosive around the basket, he's more capable/willing on the defensive end, and he seems to be having more fun out there. But as Cammo said, we need to see him against better comp.
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Post#38 » by No-Man » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:06 pm

Ruzious wrote:It is hard to differentiate him a lot from Russell at this time, but I'd say he's a little more explosive around the basket, he's more capable/willing on the defensive end, and he seems to be having more fun out there. But as Cammo said, we need to see him against better comp.

He is more economic in his moves, lower emotion also, clearly, clearly more athletic, not as sick as a passer although a good one, and behind with his shooting, good mechanics but shoots on the way down sometimes and is not as confident as D-Lo off dribble.
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Post#39 » by Village Idiot » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:42 pm

He looks like he has CJ McCollum's game with Emmanual Mudiay's body and athleticism. Very promising. It will be fun watching if he can keep it up. It's a shame Chriss didn't stick around. The Huskies could have been a fun team to watch.
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Re: Markelle Fultz 

Post#40 » by juice4080 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:59 pm

hold your horses with the best pg in a decade and surefire numeber 1 pick.....for 1 i think lonzo ball is better

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