DeAndre Ayton

Justwar · Post #21 » by **Justwar** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:06 am

Also Bagley who somehow graduated early after two years of non accredited school, suddenly goes from a usc, ucla, Arizona lean to Duke abruptly.

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DirtyDez · Post #22 » by **DirtyDez** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:42 am

Justwar wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.azcentral.com/amp/708955001

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Book was arrested for taking bribes from a sports agent (or so he thought). The Adidas stuff was more in regards to Bowen.

Just for the sake of it let's say Ayton is eventually proven to be ineligible. There's no telling how long that would take to prove. The FBI isn't likely to hand over information to the NCAA. The length of NCAA investigations take years. The schools would get punished and by that time Ayton would be long gone.

Justwar · Post #23 » by **Justwar** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:46 am

Ncaa has been more proactive since rose because they looked stupid declaring him eligible twice then the third ineligible

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Post #24 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:26 pm

Justwar wrote:I don't think he'll be playing because book Richardson is why he ended up at Arizona. Probably got a huge Adidas deal. If you look back at his recruitment he wanted Kentucky then changed abruptly and committed

What? Where are you getting the UK thing from. He was considered a massive Kansas lead for the majority of his recruitment.

And then you bring up Bagley abruptly changing to Duke (not true in the slightest), it seems like you're trying to paint these recruitment as shady or something.

This would be like me saying Duke was the heavy favorites to land Knox then he abruptly changes his mind and goes to UK, something is shady there and I don't expect him to play.

This is high school recruiting and big time players changing their minds last second to play for a power house (UK, Duke, Zona, KU, UNC) shouldn't really be a shocker.

Justwar · Post #25 » by **Justwar** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:08 pm

I don't know the Bagley situation at all, it's just something talked about with Capel who completely rebuilt dukes recruiting. They were way behind before he came. Let me look at the ayton stuff for how he was begging for a UK offer then suddenly commits to Arizona.

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Justwar · Post #26 » by **Justwar** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:15 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aseaofblue.com/platform/amp/2016/8/28/12679424/deandre-ayton-recruiting-update-kentucky-wildcats-hesitant

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Justwar · Post #27 » by **Justwar** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:16 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aseaofblue.com/platform/amp/2016/9/6/12821274/evan-daniels--smells-kentucky-deandre-ayton https://www.google.com/amp/s/wildcatbluenation.com/2016/08/29/kentucky-basketball-deandre-ayton/amp/ http://kentuckysportsradio.com/main/one-hour-until-deandre-ayton-makes-surprise-decision/

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Justwar · Post #28 » by **Justwar** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:27 pm

Knox I agree looked like duke, but this helps explain it. It started because two of the football coaches played with his dad or competed with his dad around the same time https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.courier-journal.com/amp/728501001

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Post #29 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:55 pm

The thing is you just posted 4 articles from ASeaofBlue, WildCatBlueNation and KentuckySportsRadio. Maybe just maybe theyre going to have a small bias and push to making it sound very positive for UK. Now with that said, I dont doubt that Ayton was very intrigued by UK. But a lot of top tier recruits are intrigued by a lot of power house schools. So just because Ayton said he was intrigued doesnt mean he was set on attending UK and thats where he wanted to go. Then you got Evan Daniels saying he thinks its UK basically an hour before the announcement and he was wrong which means he really didnt have a good idea at all. Also even if Ayton wanted to go to UK, it was no secret that Cal didnt even really recruit him. So did maybe last second when Cal heard that Ayton was going to be eligible Cal gave him a call and that is where the very last second UK rumors came in.

I will say this, if all reports and all experts had Ayton a huge UK or any Nike school as probably where he was going to go like how basically all experts thought Kansas was for him, then all of a sudden an Adidas school like Zona comes in and gets him, I might agree there might be a little something fishy there. But he was looked at as a heavy lean to go to Kansas for months upon months which is an Adidas school, an Adidas school that is no offense to Zona a bigger college basketball name and gets higher ratings than Zona. Why would Adidas come in last second to steal Ayton from their biggest school to bring him out West. It just doesnt make sense.

Honestly to me this is more of an indictment on KU than anything being shady with Adidas. KU was the one school that was recruiting both Ayton and Duval even when most big names schools didnt think they would be eligible. It was pretty well known on the AAU scene Duval wanted nothing to do with KU, that was just the biggest name school recruiting most of the time. Duke came in late and he went with Duke. Seems like the same can be said with Ayton, I dont think Ayton was ever in love with KU and was waiting for another big name school to come in and I wouldnt be shocked if Miller just beat Cal to the punch.

Justwar · Post #30 » by **Justwar** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:38 pm

I mean he's passed the clearinghouse but I wouldn't be surprised if it was shady. He spent a lot of time at non accredited school. Kansas now has a rep as transfer U, and when have they developed a nba big? Thomas Robinson? Then Kansas actually recruits prime prep or whatever they called it. When he transferred ky and Duke got involved. Kentucky to a lesser extent because they were really burned by mudiay.

ItsThatEasy · Post #31 » by **ItsThatEasy** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:09 pm

Justwar wrote:I mean he's passed the clearinghouse but I wouldn't be surprised if it was shady. He spent a lot of time at non accredited school. Kansas now has a rep as transfer U, and when have they developed a nba big? Thomas Robinson? Then Kansas actually recruits prime prep or whatever they called it. When he transferred ky and Duke got involved. Kentucky to a lesser extent because they were really burned by mudiay.

Not sure why you're so interested in worrying about whether or not he's eligible when there's absolute no real noise about him not playing.

With that said, until somebody has some actual news regarding his eligibility we're going to focus on him as a prospect in this thread not his recruitment.

Post #32 » by **Marcus** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:57 pm

Justwar wrote:I mean he's passed the clearinghouse but I wouldn't be surprised if it was shady. He spent a lot of time at non accredited school. Kansas now has a rep as transfer U, and when have they developed a nba big? Thomas Robinson? Then Kansas actually recruits prime prep or whatever they called it. When he transferred ky and Duke got involved. Kentucky to a lesser extent because they were really burned by Mudiay.

That Embiid kid went there didn't he?

TheSuzerain · Post #33 » by **TheSuzerain** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:28 am

Justwar wrote:I mean he's passed the clearinghouse but I wouldn't be surprised if it was shady. He spent a lot of time at non accredited school. Kansas now has a rep as transfer U, and when have they developed a nba big? Thomas Robinson? Then Kansas actually recruits prime prep or whatever they called it. When he transferred ky and Duke got involved. Kentucky to a lesser extent because they were really burned by mudiay.

Is this a serious post?

Until Cliff Alexander, KU had a pretty absurd run of putting bigs in the league. Mostly 4 stars, not even top talents.

ItsThatEasy · Post #34 » by **ItsThatEasy** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:19 am

Watch on YouTube

The kid looks like a replica of David Robinson...he's going to be a star.

EMG518 · Post #35 » by **EMG518** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:57 pm

He does look like he has the potential to be special.

The Master · Post #36 » by **The Master** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:47 pm

I know it was a scrimmage, but even on these plays in higlights he looks very passive on defense, normally of course we should ignore it, but in fact this is the biggest weakness of Ayton - not using his Robinson-esque athleticism while he defends.

Offensively, with his shot, athleticism advantage and guards Arizzona has, he will dominate NCAA since day 1, there are few teams which can defend 7-1, 260lbs freak with deep jumpshot.

He has tools to be Ewing/Robinson second coming, so the bar is set very high for him.

Right now he's for me more Towns-like prospect (very gifted offensively and underperforming defensively, still elite prospect), but he can be Robinson-like (dominant faceup player and defensive anchor) in March.

DirtyDez · Post #37 » by **DirtyDez** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:30 pm

Didn't show some of his baskets closer to the rim but he was great. Keep in mind this was even less significant than a scrimmage where Chase Jeter was showing an offensive arsenal.

Post #38 » by **Duke4life831** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:41 pm

DirtyDez wrote:Didn't show some of his baskets closer to the rim but he was great. Keep in mind this was even less significant than a scrimmage where Chase Jeter was showing an offensive arsenal.

Was it still as robotic as it could be? Im always going to question Chase's offense till I see him prove that in a game, with that said you guys got one heck of a defensive big in Jeter. The dude rotates really well and plays tremendous defense and is a hell of a shot blocker. Pretty pissed that he was the one that transferred between him and Bolden.

Ayton looked good from what I saw, the form on his jumper is pretty ridiculous for a guy his size. When he wants it this year, he will be unstoppable.

DirtyDez · Post #39 » by **DirtyDez** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:46 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Didn't show some of his baskets closer to the rim but he was great. Keep in mind this was even less significant than a scrimmage where Chase Jeter was showing an offensive arsenal.

Was it still as robotic as it could be? Im always going to question Chase's offense till I see him prove that in a game, with that said you guys got one heck of a defensive big in Jeter. The dude rotates really well and plays tremendous defense and is a hell of a shot blocker. Pretty pissed that he was the one that transferred between him and Bolden.

Ayton looked good from what I saw, the form on his jumper is pretty ridiculous for a guy his size. When he wants it this year, he will be unstoppable.

Didn't he go to Duke a year early? I think he'll be good next season mainly because he'll be a man by then. Ayton will be gone and he'll have his confidence back IMO.

Post #40 » by **Duke4life831** » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:55 pm

DirtyDez wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Didn't show some of his baskets closer to the rim but he was great. Keep in mind this was even less significant than a scrimmage where Chase Jeter was showing an offensive arsenal.

Was it still as robotic as it could be? Im always going to question Chase's offense till I see him prove that in a game, with that said you guys got one heck of a defensive big in Jeter. The dude rotates really well and plays tremendous defense and is a hell of a shot blocker. Pretty pissed that he was the one that transferred between him and Bolden.

Ayton looked good from what I saw, the form on his jumper is pretty ridiculous for a guy his size. When he wants it this year, he will be unstoppable.

Didn't he go to Duke a year early? I think he'll be good next season mainly because he'll be a man by then. Ayton will be gone and he'll have his confidence back IMO.

No he didnt come early, just was young for his class. He turned 18 like a month before the season started his freshman year. I believe he is like 6 months younger than Josh Jackson. I think by the time you will see him hes going to be a RS junior and RS senior, hes going to be stronger and more confident and is going to be a hell of a player for you guys. I always liked Jeter, he was a frustrating player to watch sometime but his defense was always great to watch, really smart kid.