Rui Hachimura

doordoor123 · Post #21 » by **doordoor123** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 1:51 am

Hes been beasting. I see him more as a 3 than a 4 in the NBA. He’s probably a late teens pick in an average draft. Just don’t think he has as much upside as people are making it seem.

Hoopz Afrik · Post #22 » by **Hoopz Afrik** » Mon Jul 2, 2018 12:16 pm

I see a lot of Wilson Chandler in him

vincecarter4pres · Post #23 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:44 am

What are your likely case and upside comparisons on this kid, Realgm?

Post #24 » by **GimmeDat** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:45 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:What are your likely case and upside comparisons on this kid, Realgm?

I'm going to say Rudy Gay, with more primitive handles/shot versatility, less open court athleticism, body control/fluidity, etc., but a bit more bulk/strength on the interior. A bit more PF oriented than Gay as well, though I guess Gay probably plays some 4 with SAS these days anyway.

Maybe not a perfect comparison but RG is the first guy I think of, to be honest.

No-Man · Post #25 » by **No-Man** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:01 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:What are your likely case and upside comparisons on this kid, Realgm?

Moe Harkless/Al Harrington

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #26 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:50 pm

Fischella wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:What are your likely case and upside comparisons on this kid, Realgm?

Moe Harkless/Al Harrington

Moe is a terrible comparison. Harrington isn't a good one either, as he was more jump-shot heavy than Rui is and Al was never the roll man Rui is. Thad Young is a much more apt comparison. Only thing is, I think Rui has more athleticism, grab + go potential, and role gravity than Thad.

Honestly, an in-shape, more down-hill, better defending, less footwork oriented Jabari (although Rui's footwork is still nice) isn't bad either.

vincecarter4pres · Post #27 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:56 pm

I feel like I used to use this comparison too often, but haven't used it in years, but how bout a little Danny Granger?

Coeur · Post #28 » by **Coeur** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:42 am

Gonzaga is ridiculous. What they do year to year is amazing. They look at their weakness and try to improve it. Gonzaga every year would run into being undersized at the 2 and ESP the 3 spots once it got to the big tourney teams. Fast forward a few years to now and the combination of norvell 6-5 sg, rui 6-8or 6-9 NBA sf will play both forward spots for Gonzaga. Then the guy I think is the best of the 3 is 2/3 combo Kispert. 6-7 or so. Then there's more length and depth off the bench. Plus another guy who is a top transfer Clark a 6-8 PF. Then next year they bring in a local player 6-9 sf Anton Watson who is prob the best local prospect in a long time.

No-Man · Post #29 » by **No-Man** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:15 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Fischella wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:What are your likely case and upside comparisons on this kid, Realgm?

Moe Harkless/Al Harrington

Moe is a terrible comparison. Harrington isn't a good one either, as he was more jump-shot heavy than Rui is and Al was never the roll man Rui is. Thad Young is a much more apt comparison. Only thing is, I think Rui has more athleticism, grab + go potential, and role gravity than Thad.

Honestly, an in-shape, more down-hill, better defending, less footwork oriented Jabari (although Rui's footwork is still nice) isn't bad either.

Well I do agree that his game isn't akin to Moe, but physically they are indeed similar, run-jump athletes, long and slender, similar dimensions, similar meh games on D, not that physical but can impact at times due to tools and been somewhat solid at rotating and staying within the scheme (Rui isn't a playmaker on D), I do think his game is quite similar to Harrington's who actually was a really good roll man and had speed-power as a finisher, Rui also lacks vision and awareness on offense, similarly to Al

Jabari is the top notch version of that archetype, his handles and size set him apart, I don't think Rui has either of those, Parker is a legit ball-handler at 6'8 240

Thad Young is a much smarter and do-it-all type than Rui, I honestly don't like Hachimura that much, other than in a limited role on both ends if he buys in and is able to kinda scale down his game, since he is a wing, he is a guy that you are gonna end up drafting in the 1st, but the bust potential is fairly high

No-Man · Post #30 » by **No-Man** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:17 pm

Coeur wrote:Gonzaga is ridiculous. What they do year to year is amazing. They look at their weakness and try to improve it. Gonzaga every year would run into being undersized at the 2 and ESP the 3 spots once it got to the big tourney teams. Fast forward a few years to now and the combination of norvell 6-5 sg, rui 6-8or 6-9 NBA sf will play both forward spots for Gonzaga. Then the guy I think is the best of the 3 is 2/3 combo Kispert. 6-7 or so. Then there's more length and depth off the bench. Plus another guy who is a top transfer Clark a 6-8 PF. Then next year they bring in a local player 6-9 sf Anton Watson who is prob the best local prospect in a long time.

They bring in Arlauskas next year too, who is gonna be a stud at this level, 6'7 but can create like a PG, gonna thrive with them

Petrusev also at NCAA level is gonna be a match-up nightmare, Gonzaga is gonna be a top5-10 team next season even with Rui, Tillie, Perkins, Crandall and Jones out

Pekovic_MIP21 · Post #31 » by **Pekovic_MIP21** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:19 pm

Fran Fraschilla recently was at a Gonzaga practice and compared Hachimura to a young Ron Artest.

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doordoor123 · Post #32 » by **doordoor123** » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:35 pm

Pekovic_MIP21 wrote:Fran Fraschilla recently was at a Gonzaga practice and compared Hachimura to a young Ron Artest.

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Ron Artest is a lot, he’s not Artest. His speed and explosion combined with his big body reminds me of Artist, but he doesn’t have any of those natural instincts and isn’t anywhere near as imposing on defense.

EMG518 · Post #33 » by **EMG518** » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:19 am

doordoor123 wrote:
Pekovic_MIP21 wrote:Fran Fraschilla recently was at a Gonzaga practice and compared Hachimura to a young Ron Artest.

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Ron Artest is a lot, he’s not Artest. His speed and explosion combined with his big body reminds me of Artist, but he doesn’t have any of those natural instincts and isn’t anywhere near as imposing on defense.

Fran also said " He remembers what a young Jordan looked like" when talking about Exum. We have all had our misses but common.

Kalela · Post #34 » by **Kalela** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:55 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:Honestly, an in-shape, more down-hill, better defending, less footwork oriented Jabari (although Rui's footwork is still nice) isn't bad either.

That is a pretty good description of him.

doordoor123 · Post #35 » by **doordoor123** » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:53 pm

EMG518 wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
Pekovic_MIP21 wrote:Fran Fraschilla recently was at a Gonzaga practice and compared Hachimura to a young Ron Artest.

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Ron Artest is a lot, he’s not Artest. His speed and explosion combined with his big body reminds me of Artist, but he doesn’t have any of those natural instincts and isn’t anywhere near as imposing on defense.

Fran also said " He remembers what a young Jordan looked like" when talking about Exum. We have all had our misses but common.

I’m still on Exum island. If he can stay healthy for like 3 years at least he can still reach his high potential. Problem is he cant stay healthy enough to work on his game.

Spens1 · Post #36 » by **Spens1** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:57 am

I know he's only played 1 game, but no way does this guy go as only a mid first (tankathon and nbadraft.net had him there), The guy will be ready from day 1 and if he adds a 3pt shot he's going to be an absolute stud.

King Ken · Post #37 » by **King Ken** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:21 pm

I seen him and to me it was a no brainer, he is a lot like Kenyon Martin. More skilled and better body but I don't see the shot blocking skills of K-Mart. All he needs to do is smack the backboard and he's Kenyon clone on offense.

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doordoor123 · Post #38 » by **doordoor123** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:38 pm

I see him being successful in the NBA just because transition is used so much more. And the floor has more space so he’s going to have time to run or shoot wide open 3s. He moves a lot like Pascal Siakam, but he’s smaller and a better shooter.

Post #39 » by **GimmeDat** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:24 am

I only have Rui as high as I do (12 atm), because I project, and am optimistic about, improvements in his game. Last season he looked a bit like a ball of clay prospect at Gonzaga. He was athletic, fluid offensively but lacked much skill level it seemed, and defensively he has tools but is no where near contributing on that end of the floor.

I watched him in FIBA and felt a lot more confident in his offensive skill-set, he was hitting jumpers both spotting up and off the dribble (plus he was good FT shooter at Gonzaga), he was making some nifty moves at the rim, and was just playing with a lot of confidence. I'm not sure whether he'll ever be a major feel/IQ guy in terms of making plays with the ball, but I think it's improving, maybe the game's slowing down a bit and he's making the right reads.

There's been enough contextual reasoning, like the language barrier, and other factors, that have led to me feeling like he truly is a raw prospect that has a real chance of having a late developmental surge, and I feel like he fits a really positive modern NBA archetype.

clyde21 · Post #40 » by **clyde21** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:32 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Fischella wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:What are your likely case and upside comparisons on this kid, Realgm?

Moe Harkless/Al Harrington

Honestly, an in-shape, more down-hill, better defending, less footwork oriented Jabari (although Rui's footwork is still nice) isn't bad either.

This is a good comp I think. Nice.

I like Rui. If he can knock down open outside jump shots at a better rate, I think he can be an instant contributer for someone. Seems like a really good fit for a team like the Pacers or Milwaukee.