Josh Okogie

[Stillwater]

He could go mid lottery if teams are sold he's farther along in the development process than they would like to admit , I mean it's pretty obvious he has huge upside and has been one of the biggest sleepers coming into the combine given the tools in place and the elite athletic ability. I expect to hear little about him leading up to the draft besides all of the things that he needs to get better at etc. with mid 1st teams hoping to hush the buzz, but any team from 7 out could justify the pick

[connseanery]

My concern with walker is right now he disappears when his jumper isn't falling. He needs to tighten his handle so he can attack the hoop better which he should be able to with his athletic gifts. He also isn't as active as Smith and Okogie on the glass and as a team defender.

Okogie is pretty solid all around except for his handle and tendency to force bad shots.

Smith has the best functional athleticism of the 3 but his handle is the roughest. He seems to have the best court sense and decision making of the 3 imo. He doesn't take many bad shots or commit turnovers.

[doordoor123]

Reminds me of Norman Powell. Think he’s a second round pick.

[Ball4life32]

Reminds me of Norman Powell. Think he’s a second round pick.

Don’t see that comparison at all. Okogie is a better shooter...and a freshman Okogie had similar stats to Powell as a senior. Okogie is much better player at the same stage.

[Pinkyring]

Think he will be there at 33 for dallas?

[doordoor123]

Reminds me of Norman Powell. Think he’s a second round pick.

Don’t see that comparison at all. Okogie is a better shooter...and a freshman Okogie had similar stats to Powell as a senior. Okogie is much better player at the same stage.

Same size as Okogie, and play in a similar way. In terms of who is better at what stage, yeah, I would say Okogie is better at a younger age, but he’s going to have the same type of game as Powell in the NBA.

[Catchall]

His offensive moves are very basic and not very disciplined. The fact that he could average 17 or 18 ppg in the ACC speaks to his potential if he continues to develop. He's got DWade measurables and athleticism. And again, he's only 19.

[Ball4life32]

Reminds me of Norman Powell. Think he’s a second round pick.

Don’t see that comparison at all. Okogie is a better shooter...and a freshman Okogie had similar stats to Powell as a senior. Okogie is much better player at the same stage.

Same size as Okogie, and play in a similar way. In terms of who is better at what stage, yeah, I would say Okogie is better at a younger age, but he’s going to have the same type of game as Powell in the NBA.

Same size and measurables but they certainly aren’t the same player. Okogie is a MUCH better shooter and MUCH more productive...Okogie has a much higher upside than Powell so you certainly can’t claim Okogie is a 2nd rounderr based on Powell.

[doordoor123]

Don’t see that comparison at all. Okogie is a better shooter...and a freshman Okogie had similar stats to Powell as a senior. Okogie is much better player at the same stage.

Same size as Okogie, and play in a similar way. In terms of who is better at what stage, yeah, I would say Okogie is better at a younger age, but he’s going to have the same type of game as Powell in the NBA.

Same size and measurables but they certainly aren’t the same player. Okogie is a MUCH better shooter and MUCH more productive...Okogie has a much higher upside than Powell so you certainly can’t claim Okogie is a 2nd rounderr based on Powell.

Think the overhype for Okogie is out of control and so is the underhype for Powell. Powell was a solid passer in college, like Okogie is. He was really athletic, had a great first step and a pretty solid handle. I was super high on him because UCLA is one of my teams. It looked like his handle and passing would translate, but neither were very strong against NBA defenses. It’s the same with Okogie, but Okogie is a worse defender IMO. If you’re only looking at his highlights, they look much more impressive than they looked in-game.

[Ball4life32]

Same size as Okogie, and play in a similar way. In terms of who is better at what stage, yeah, I would say Okogie is better at a younger age, but he’s going to have the same type of game as Powell in the NBA.

Same size and measurables but they certainly aren’t the same player. Okogie is a MUCH better shooter and MUCH more productive...Okogie has a much higher upside than Powell so you certainly can’t claim Okogie is a 2nd rounderr based on Powell.

Think the overhype for Okogie is out of control and so is the underhype for Powell. Powell was a solid passer in college, like Okogie is. He was really athletic, had a great first step and a pretty solid handle. I was super high on him because UCLA is one of my teams. It looked like his handle and passing would translate, but neither were very strong against NBA defenses. It’s the same with Okogie, but Okogie is a worse defender IMO. If you’re only looking at his highlights, they look much more impressive than they looked in-game.

I’m a Ga Tech fan so I’ve watched all of Okogie’s games. Okogie was good day 1 as an 18 year old freshman while Powell wasn’t really good until he was a 22 year old senior. Okogie’s sophomore year was better than any of Norman’s seasons at UCLA too.

[kg01]

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Same size and measurables but they certainly aren’t the same player. Okogie is a MUCH better shooter and MUCH more productive...Okogie has a much higher upside than Powell so you certainly can’t claim Okogie is a 2nd rounderr based on Powell.

Think the overhype for Okogie is out of control and so is the underhype for Powell. Powell was a solid passer in college, like Okogie is. He was really athletic, had a great first step and a pretty solid handle. I was super high on him because UCLA is one of my teams. It looked like his handle and passing would translate, but neither were very strong against NBA defenses. It’s the same with Okogie, but Okogie is a worse defender IMO. If you’re only looking at his highlights, they look much more impressive than they looked in-game.

I’m a Ga Tech fan so I’ve watched all of Okogie’s games. Okogie was good day 1 as an 18 year old freshman while Powell wasn’t really good until he was a 22 year old senior. Okogie’s sophomore year was better than any of Norman’s years at UCLA too.

I will say, though, that he's right that there is some over-hype going on based off the combine performance. I also agree that Oko needs to improve his ball-handling. Long story short, he's clearly got warts but it's not like folks are saying he should go top5. All these potential late 1sts have warts.

Suggesting he should go round 2 because he's comparable to Powell isn't quite right either though. Okogie at 18 was comparable to Powell at 22. That's pretty significant.

ETA: It should also be noted that Okogie was the #1 option offensively for GT, thus was at the top of opponents' scouting reports.

[doordoor123]

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Think the overhype for Okogie is out of control and so is the underhype for Powell. Powell was a solid passer in college, like Okogie is. He was really athletic, had a great first step and a pretty solid handle. I was super high on him because UCLA is one of my teams. It looked like his handle and passing would translate, but neither were very strong against NBA defenses. It’s the same with Okogie, but Okogie is a worse defender IMO. If you’re only looking at his highlights, they look much more impressive than they looked in-game.

I’m a Ga Tech fan so I’ve watched all of Okogie’s games. Okogie was good day 1 as an 18 year old freshman while Powell wasn’t really good until he was a 22 year old senior. Okogie’s sophomore year was better than any of Norman’s years at UCLA too.

I will say, though, that he's right that there is some over-hype going on based off the combine performance. I also agree that Oko needs to improve his ball-handling. Long story short, he's clearly got warts but it's not like folks are saying he should go top5. All these potential late 1sts have warts.

Suggesting he should go round 2 because he's comparable to Powell isn't quite right either though. Okogie at 18 was comparable to Powell at 22. That's pretty significant.

ETA: It should also be noted that Okogie was the #1 option offensively for GT, thus was at the top of opponents' scouting reports.

Half right, half wrong. Ben Lammers was the #1 option. I agree that being younger makes a difference, but Okogie turns 21 in September, Powell just turned 22 before he was drafted. And I’m not saying it’s impossible he’s a first round pick, but in terms of what you’re getting he’s a second round pick IMO. I don’t think Okogie has much upside.

[Ball4life32]

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I’m a Ga Tech fan so I’ve watched all of Okogie’s games. Okogie was good day 1 as an 18 year old freshman while Powell wasn’t really good until he was a 22 year old senior. Okogie’s sophomore year was better than any of Norman’s years at UCLA too.

I will say, though, that he's right that there is some over-hype going on based off the combine performance. I also agree that Oko needs to improve his ball-handling. Long story short, he's clearly got warts but it's not like folks are saying he should go top5. All these potential late 1sts have warts.

Suggesting he should go round 2 because he's comparable to Powell isn't quite right either though. Okogie at 18 was comparable to Powell at 22. That's pretty significant.

ETA: It should also be noted that Okogie was the #1 option offensively for GT, thus was at the top of opponents' scouting reports.

Half right, half wrong. Ben Lammers was the #1 option. I agree that being younger makes a difference, but Okogie turns 21 in September, Powell just turned 22 before he was drafted. And I’m not saying it’s impossible he’s a first round pick, but in terms of what you’re getting he’s a second round pick IMO. I don’t think Okogie has much upside.

Okogie turns 20 in September actually and was the #1 scoring option over Lammers...especially this past year.

Okogie is a SG with a 7 foot wingspan, 42 inch vertical, had the fastest 3/4 court sprint (watching him in the open court I wouldnt be shocked if he runs a 4.3) while being extremely productive 2 years in the ACC doesn’t scream upside? 38% career 3pt shooter...very good mid range shooter. Okogie is the definition of upside.

[Ball4life32]

He just hired an agent and will stay in the NBA Draft. No suprise.

[kg01]

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I’m a Ga Tech fan so I’ve watched all of Okogie’s games. Okogie was good day 1 as an 18 year old freshman while Powell wasn’t really good until he was a 22 year old senior. Okogie’s sophomore year was better than any of Norman’s years at UCLA too.

I will say, though, that he's right that there is some over-hype going on based off the combine performance. I also agree that Oko needs to improve his ball-handling. Long story short, he's clearly got warts but it's not like folks are saying he should go top5. All these potential late 1sts have warts.

Suggesting he should go round 2 because he's comparable to Powell isn't quite right either though. Okogie at 18 was comparable to Powell at 22. That's pretty significant.

ETA: It should also be noted that Okogie was the #1 option offensively for GT, thus was at the top of opponents' scouting reports.

Half right, half wrong. Ben Lammers was the #1 option. I agree that being younger makes a difference, but Okogie turns 21 in September, Powell just turned 22 before he was drafted. And I’m not saying it’s impossible he’s a first round pick, but in terms of what you’re getting he’s a second round pick IMO. I don’t think Okogie has much upside.

Sorry, Lammers was not the #1 option offensively. Not at all. It's ok that you don't like Okogie as much as some of us do, but saying he doesn't have much upside is simply incorrect.

[EvanZ]

Okogie had 27% USG to Lammer's 18%. It's pretty obvious who the #1 option on that team was.

[doordoor123]

Okogie had 27% USG to Lammer's 18%. It's pretty obvious who the #1 option on that team was.

Do you watch GT games? I watched quite a few because I liked Lammers. Okogie was the only guy on the team that could get the ball to Lammers in the post. His usage had nothing to do with him being the number one option.

[kg01]

Okogie had 27% USG to Lammer's 18%. It's pretty obvious who the #1 option on that team was.

Do you watch GT games? I watched quite a few because I liked Lammers. Okogie was the only guy on the team that could get the ball to Lammers in the post. His usage had nothing to do with him being the number one option.

What's your definition of #1 option on offense then? And I ask that with the understanding that my own definition could be wrong.

Pastner, for better or worse, tries to run a system that doesn't rely on any one player for scoring. However, due to lack of talent, Okogie was our primary source for scoring because he was the only one capable of (a) getting to the line and (b) getting his own shot.

I love Lammers, but he was put in the high post to facilitate, not score. He was never the #1 option although, to your point perhaps, he did handle the ball a lot.

[vincecarter4pres]

So as of now, where are people expecting him to go? Is he a first round lock at this point?

[RipCity71252]

So as of now, where are people expecting him to go? Is he a first round lock at this point?

Maybe late first, but I'd still bet 2nd.

Has good defensive tools (IQ and effort comes and goes though) and he's likely awful on offense imo.