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LeBron_da_Don wrote:Someone in another post likened him to Derrick Favors (though he looks a bit more explosive around the basket) with a 3-point shot. I like that comparison a lot. I forget the poster's name.
Moooose wrote:LeBron_da_Don wrote:Someone in another post likened him to Derrick Favors (though he looks a bit more explosive around the basket) with a 3-point shot. I like that comparison a lot. I forget the poster's name.
Favors with shooting? He currently looks like a Marreese Speights / Adreian Payne to me, unless he bulks up some more.
I think his stock will get higher as there aren't too much bigs in the late first round / early second.
LeBron_da_Don wrote:Someone in another post likened him to Derrick Favors (though he looks a bit more explosive around the basket) with a 3-point shot. I like that comparison a lot. I forget the poster's name.
pad300 wrote:LeBron_da_Don wrote:Someone in another post likened him to Derrick Favors (though he looks a bit more explosive around the basket) with a 3-point shot. I like that comparison a lot. I forget the poster's name.
I think that's giving him more credit than is due. A more explosive Derrick Favors who also has a 3 pt shot is a borderline all-star and thus at least a top 10 pick.,,
EvanZ wrote:Moooose wrote:LeBron_da_Don wrote:Someone in another post likened him to Derrick Favors (though he looks a bit more explosive around the basket) with a 3-point shot. I like that comparison a lot. I forget the poster's name.
Favors with shooting? He currently looks like a Marreese Speights / Adreian Payne to me, unless he bulks up some more.
I think his stock will get higher as there aren't too much bigs in the late first round / early second.
Wait you're problem with Speights is that he wasn't bulky enough?
Do you realize Spellman used to be like 300 pounds? Go look up his high school videos. Kid was FAT. He's done well to get down to this weight. You definitely don't want him "bulking" up.
Dogen wrote:Celtics win despite Smart having -1 points for the game.
Moooose wrote:LeBron_da_Don wrote:Someone in another post likened him to Derrick Favors (though he looks a bit more explosive around the basket) with a 3-point shot. I like that comparison a lot. I forget the poster's name.
Favors with shooting? He currently looks like a Marreese Speights / Adreian Payne to me, unless he bulks up some more.
I think his stock will get higher as there aren't too much bigs in the late first round / early second.
Dogen wrote:Celtics win despite Smart having -1 points for the game.
Scoonie wrote:Spellman is much more athletic, a better defensive player, and a better outside shooter than Jared Sullinger. The only reason these two should be compared is because of weight issues.
Ruzious wrote:I've been Spellman's biggest supporter, and no - he's not much more athletic. Sullinger was never a 3 point shooter until he was asked to be one, and then immediately became a 3 point shooting threat, so I think the only difference there was it became popular for bigs to shoot 3's after Sullinger's freshman year. Nobody's saying they're twins, but they have obvious similarities. We'll have to agree to disagree.
Dogen wrote:Celtics win despite Smart having -1 points for the game.
Moooose wrote:EvanZ wrote:Moooose wrote:
Favors with shooting? He currently looks like a Marreese Speights / Adreian Payne to me, unless he bulks up some more.
I think his stock will get higher as there aren't too much bigs in the late first round / early second.
Wait you're problem with Speights is that he wasn't bulky enough?
Do you realize Spellman used to be like 300 pounds? Go look up his high school videos. Kid was FAT. He's done well to get down to this weight. You definitely don't want him "bulking" up.
Your definition of bulking up is just simply getting fat? Is getting stronger and more muscular impossible? Can he get thinner and still be able to defend the DeMarcus Cousins of the league without being ran over?
I know for a fact that he was overweight and that's no secret. You might wanna watch Caleb Swanigan's story too. Being stronger would separate him from the mold of Speights and Payne in case you're missing the point.
Scoonie wrote:Ruzious wrote:I've been Spellman's biggest supporter, and no - he's not much more athletic. Sullinger was never a 3 point shooter until he was asked to be one, and then immediately became a 3 point shooting threat, so I think the only difference there was it became popular for bigs to shoot 3's after Sullinger's freshman year. Nobody's saying they're twins, but they have obvious similarities. We'll have to agree to disagree.
Sullinger never shot higher than 28% from 3-PT land in the NBA with the Celtics. Spellman shot 43% on fairly high volume this past season as a freshman at Villanova.
Sullinger played for my Celtics and that guy had no athleticism. Good nose for the ball and effective around the basket, but couldn't run the floor and had no lift and no athleticism.
EvanZ wrote:How many "DeMarcus Cousins of the league" are there? Are you watching the playoffs? Draymond Green is smaller and he's the best defender there is. I'm not even defending Spellman (he's like#22 on my board) but your idea that he needs to bulk up a lot is ridiculous. The game is getting faster and smaller.
Moooose wrote:EvanZ wrote:How many "DeMarcus Cousins of the league" are there? Are you watching the playoffs? Draymond Green is smaller and he's the best defender there is. I'm not even defending Spellman (he's like#22 on my board) but your idea that he needs to bulk up a lot is ridiculous. The game is getting faster and smaller.
Exactly the point. Why is Draymond guarding the bigger guys, is it because he's faster and smaller than anyone else? Haven't you noticed how "bulked up" Draymond is? And bulking up for Spellman would be ridiculous? Didn't you know that aside from DeMarcus are guys like Draymond (as you are mentioning), Horford, Favors, Ibaka, KAT? Even Paul Millsap will be able to hold his own against Spellman? Those guys were/ and some still are, in the playoffs except for Cousins.
In case you don't know what "bulk up" means, I am giving you a link to a dictionary:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/bulk-up
If you are convinced that he is fine as he is, then see how he battled against the smaller Konate on that Villanova - West Virginia game. Bulking up is ridiculous? No one gets into the league to get weaker. Can you not get stronger and faster at the same time, or do you only get to choose one? Whatever, dude. I rest my case.
Ruzious wrote:Scoonie wrote:Spellman is much more athletic, a better defensive player, and a better outside shooter than Jared Sullinger. The only reason these two should be compared is because of weight issues.
I've been Spellman's biggest supporter, and no - he's not much more athletic. Sullinger was never a 3 point shooter until he was asked to be one, and then immediately became a 3 point shooting threat, so I think the only difference there was it became popular for bigs to shoot 3's after Sullinger's freshman year. Nobody's saying they're twins, but they have obvious similarities. We'll have to agree to disagree.
Rich Rane wrote:I think we're all missing the point here. vc4pres needs to stop watching games.
vincecarter4pres wrote:Ruzious wrote:Scoonie wrote:Spellman is much more athletic, a better defensive player, and a better outside shooter than Jared Sullinger. The only reason these two should be compared is because of weight issues.
I've been Spellman's biggest supporter, and no - he's not much more athletic. Sullinger was never a 3 point shooter until he was asked to be one, and then immediately became a 3 point shooting threat, so I think the only difference there was it became popular for bigs to shoot 3's after Sullinger's freshman year. Nobody's saying they're twins, but they have obvious similarities. We'll have to agree to disagree.
Spellman is a lot more mobile than Sullinger ever was and has a lot of lift and that's now and he's still fat. If he could get into great shape and stay that way, there's a lot to like here.
Ruzious wrote:vincecarter4pres wrote:Ruzious wrote:I've been Spellman's biggest supporter, and no - he's not much more athletic. Sullinger was never a 3 point shooter until he was asked to be one, and then immediately became a 3 point shooting threat, so I think the only difference there was it became popular for bigs to shoot 3's after Sullinger's freshman year. Nobody's saying they're twins, but they have obvious similarities. We'll have to agree to disagree.
Spellman is a lot more mobile than Sullinger ever was and has a lot of lift and that's now and he's still fat. If he could get into great shape and stay that way, there's a lot to like here.
So, do you have him as a lottery pick? And if not, why not? Remember, Sullinger was a top 5 prospect (ESPN had him at 2) coming out of HS. This discussion is interesting, because everywhere else, I've been saying people have been rating Spellman too low.
Rich Rane wrote:I think we're all missing the point here. vc4pres needs to stop watching games.
GimmeDat wrote:Spellman seems like a much more efficient shooter, as well as longer and more athletic than Sullinger, and that's without considering further improvements to his body, which I have much more faith in him to make than Sullinger. And of course Sullinger had the injury concerns dating back to college as well.
GimmeDat wrote:Spellman seems like a much more efficient shooter, as well as longer and more athletic than Sullinger, and that's without considering further improvements to his body, which I have much more faith in him to make than Sullinger. And of course Sullinger had the injury concerns dating back to college as well.