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Post#21 » by EMG518 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:25 pm

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EMG518 wrote:I just randomly came across this kid but is there anyone whom has seen him, he reminds me of Curry from his highlights. Matthew Strazel.


He's a very good french PG, quick and fearless, great shooter and very good defender. But he is a bit short around 6'0 feet tall. I don't think he's an NBA prospect for american scouts due to his height.



Appreciate the info, if that is the case I think they are sleeping on him. I believe he will be.
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Post#22 » by clyde21 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:03 am

Sea2003 wrote:Do you guys think Kuminga will actually reclassify?


nothing official yet either way...this is the last thing I read about it from December:

And Rivals recruiting insider Corey Evans wrote this week that he sees both a reclass and a move to Durham from Kuminga — a 17-year-old Congo native who has not ruled out a move to 2020


https://balldurham.com/2019/12/06/duke-basketball-add-no-1-2020-class/

looks like it's still an option for him
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Post#23 » by Marcus » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:12 am

clyde21 wrote:
Sea2003 wrote:Do you guys think Kuminga will actually reclassify?


nothing official yet either way...this is the last thing I read about it from December:

And Rivals recruiting insider Corey Evans wrote this week that he sees both a reclass and a move to Durham from Kuminga — a 17-year-old Congo native who has not ruled out a move to 2020


https://balldurham.com/2019/12/06/duke-basketball-add-no-1-2020-class/

looks like it's still an option for him


he leapfrog Cade, Mobley, or Jalen Green for you if he does?
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Post#24 » by clyde21 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:37 am

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clyde21 wrote:
Sea2003 wrote:Do you guys think Kuminga will actually reclassify?


nothing official yet either way...this is the last thing I read about it from December:

And Rivals recruiting insider Corey Evans wrote this week that he sees both a reclass and a move to Durham from Kuminga — a 17-year-old Congo native who has not ruled out a move to 2020


https://balldurham.com/2019/12/06/duke-basketball-add-no-1-2020-class/

looks like it's still an option for him


he leapfrog Cade, Mobley, or Jalen Green for you if he does?


yea, he'd probably be #1, close with Mobley.
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Post#25 » by crows2 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:55 am

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clyde21 wrote:
Sea2003 wrote:Do you guys think Kuminga will actually reclassify?


nothing official yet either way...this is the last thing I read about it from December:

And Rivals recruiting insider Corey Evans wrote this week that he sees both a reclass and a move to Durham from Kuminga — a 17-year-old Congo native who has not ruled out a move to 2020


https://balldurham.com/2019/12/06/duke-basketball-add-no-1-2020-class/

looks like it's still an option for him


he leapfrog Cade, Mobley, or Jalen Green for you if he does?


Cade? No
Green? Maybe
Mobley? Yes

I’d probably have it:
1. Cade
2/3. Green/Kuminga
4. Mobley

That’s also how the 2021 mocks I’ve come across have it at the moment.
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Post#26 » by Sea2003 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:14 am

clyde21 wrote:
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clyde21 wrote:
nothing official yet either way...this is the last thing I read about it from December:



https://balldurham.com/2019/12/06/duke-basketball-add-no-1-2020-class/

looks like it's still an option for him


he leapfrog Cade, Mobley, or Jalen Green for you if he does?


yea, he'd probably be #1, close with Mobley.


So you have Mobley ahead of Cade?
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Post#27 » by clyde21 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:20 am

Sea2003 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
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he leapfrog Cade, Mobley, or Jalen Green for you if he does?


yea, he'd probably be #1, close with Mobley.


So you have Mobley ahead of Cade?


yup, all 3 Mobley, Cade and Green are elite to me tho, I'd take them easily over anyone in the this class
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Post#28 » by Sea2003 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:54 am

For sure.
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Post#29 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:01 pm

Sea2003 wrote:Do you guys think Kuminga will actually reclassify?


I expect a very late reclassify by him. Wouldnt be shocked if its like a Bagley situation where he waits around to see how all the teams stack up then reclassifies around July-August. Also like Bagley, I think most people feel like its just a matter of when not if he reclassifies. No clue where though, my guess is a SEC team.
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Post#30 » by Sea2003 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:14 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Sea2003 wrote:Do you guys think Kuminga will actually reclassify?


I expect a very late reclassify by him. Wouldnt be shocked if its like a Bagley situation where he waits around to see how all the teams stack up then reclassifies around July-August. Also like Bagley, I think most people feel like its just a matter of when not if he reclassifies. No clue where though, my guess is a SEC team.



Personally, i think it's best if he doesn't reclassify. I think it's safe to say the 2022 wing class won't be as promising as next year's, so why risk damaging your stock when you're competing with other elite wings such as yourself? I think there's a much better chance he gets selected top 3 if he doesn't reclassify ( Not sure how good the 2022 class is though).
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Post#31 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:31 pm

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Sea2003 wrote:Do you guys think Kuminga will actually reclassify?


I expect a very late reclassify by him. Wouldnt be shocked if its like a Bagley situation where he waits around to see how all the teams stack up then reclassifies around July-August. Also like Bagley, I think most people feel like its just a matter of when not if he reclassifies. No clue where though, my guess is a SEC team.



Personally, i think it's best if he doesn't reclassify. I think it's safe to say the 2022 wing class won't be as promising as next year's, so why risk damaging your stock when you're competing with other elite wings such as yourself? I think there's a much better chance he gets selected top 3 if he doesn't reclassify ( Not sure how good the 2022 class is though).


I think no matter what he ends up in the 2021 draft. I think what most likely is going to happen is he is going to sit around and see how the big name teams wind up. If he feels like there is a team where he fits perfectly on a big named team, he will go there and bump his name value. If not wouldnt be shocked to see him go pro or something. It would be much smarter for him to get in the NBA a year earlier and get to that 2nd contract a year earlier. Both the 2021 and 2022 classes look pretty damn good at the moment. So I dont see any benefit of him sticking around. 2022 class has its fair share of guys that could kick him out of the top 3 if he has a really bad year.
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Post#32 » by clyde21 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:40 pm

Sea2003 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Sea2003 wrote:Do you guys think Kuminga will actually reclassify?


I expect a very late reclassify by him. Wouldnt be shocked if its like a Bagley situation where he waits around to see how all the teams stack up then reclassifies around July-August. Also like Bagley, I think most people feel like its just a matter of when not if he reclassifies. No clue where though, my guess is a SEC team.



Personally, i think it's best if he doesn't reclassify. I think it's safe to say the 2022 wing class won't be as promising as next year's, so why risk damaging your stock when you're competing with other elite wings such as yourself? I think there's a much better chance he gets selected top 3 if he doesn't reclassify ( Not sure how good the 2022 class is though).


he's already one of the top 3 guys in next year's class if he reclassifies it being a deep class doesn't really affect him at all.

also isn't 22 supposed to be the 'super' draft when HS players go straight into the draft?
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Post#33 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:45 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Sea2003 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
I expect a very late reclassify by him. Wouldnt be shocked if its like a Bagley situation where he waits around to see how all the teams stack up then reclassifies around July-August. Also like Bagley, I think most people feel like its just a matter of when not if he reclassifies. No clue where though, my guess is a SEC team.



Personally, i think it's best if he doesn't reclassify. I think it's safe to say the 2022 wing class won't be as promising as next year's, so why risk damaging your stock when you're competing with other elite wings such as yourself? I think there's a much better chance he gets selected top 3 if he doesn't reclassify ( Not sure how good the 2022 class is though).


he's already one of the top 3 guys in next year's class if he reclassifies it being a deep class doesn't really affect him at all.

also isn't 22 supposed to be the 'super' draft when HS players go straight into the draft?


Ya I didnt even think about that. Ya that is the so called super draft and it will have Emoni Bates in it.
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2019/05/12/adam-silver-says-one-and-done-rule-could-be-gone-by-2022-nba-draft/
Kuminga has a better chance of going #1 against Cade and Mobley than over Bates (I could see Griffin maybe going above him as well).
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Post#34 » by clyde21 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:51 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Sea2003 wrote:

Personally, i think it's best if he doesn't reclassify. I think it's safe to say the 2022 wing class won't be as promising as next year's, so why risk damaging your stock when you're competing with other elite wings such as yourself? I think there's a much better chance he gets selected top 3 if he doesn't reclassify ( Not sure how good the 2022 class is though).


he's already one of the top 3 guys in next year's class if he reclassifies it being a deep class doesn't really affect him at all.

also isn't 22 supposed to be the 'super' draft when HS players go straight into the draft?


Ya I didnt even think about that. Ya that is the so called super draft and it will have Emoni Bates in it.
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2019/05/12/adam-silver-says-one-and-done-rule-could-be-gone-by-2022-nba-draft/
Kuminga has a better chance of going #1 against Cade and Mobley than over Bates (I could see Griffin maybe going above him as well).


yea, going ahead of Bates will be tough, love Griffin too.

really excited for these next 2 drafts tbh.
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Post#35 » by Sea2003 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:05 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Sea2003 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
I expect a very late reclassify by him. Wouldnt be shocked if its like a Bagley situation where he waits around to see how all the teams stack up then reclassifies around July-August. Also like Bagley, I think most people feel like its just a matter of when not if he reclassifies. No clue where though, my guess is a SEC team.



Personally, i think it's best if he doesn't reclassify. I think it's safe to say the 2022 wing class won't be as promising as next year's, so why risk damaging your stock when you're competing with other elite wings such as yourself? I think there's a much better chance he gets selected top 3 if he doesn't reclassify ( Not sure how good the 2022 class is though).


he's already one of the top 3 guys in next year's class if he reclassifies it being a deep class doesn't really affect him at all.

also isn't 22 supposed to be the 'super' draft when HS players go straight into the draft?


There's also a chance it doesn't happen till 2023 according to Givony.
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Post#36 » by clyde21 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:14 pm

Sea2003 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Sea2003 wrote:

Personally, i think it's best if he doesn't reclassify. I think it's safe to say the 2022 wing class won't be as promising as next year's, so why risk damaging your stock when you're competing with other elite wings such as yourself? I think there's a much better chance he gets selected top 3 if he doesn't reclassify ( Not sure how good the 2022 class is though).


he's already one of the top 3 guys in next year's class if he reclassifies it being a deep class doesn't really affect him at all.

also isn't 22 supposed to be the 'super' draft when HS players go straight into the draft?


There's also a chance it doesn't happen till 2023 according to Givony.


i'm sure that will be part of his decision making process, either way it makes more sense for him to reclass to 21.
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Post#37 » by GimmeDat » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:28 pm

Josh Giddey, the 6'8 Australian PG I referenced earlier in this thread, has decided to play in the NBL next season.

He's also on the Australian national team for our Asian Cup Qualifier against Hong Kong tomorrow. He was on the team for the New Zealand game the other day but he arrived from Chicago (BWB camp) the day before so they rested him). I'm interested to see how he looks out there against men, even if Hong Kong would be a really low level of competition. (note this is like Australia's C or D team, it excludes NBA players, NBL players who made finals, or anyone in the G League or Europe. It's literally just a group of NBL players comprised of the 4 NBL teams that didn't make playoffs, so it's weaker than a standard NBL team when you factor in imports).

He was listed as a standout at the BWB camp, though some interesting concerns were raised by Givony - is he a PG or a big wing with playmaking skills (ie who will he guard), he has quite a skinny frame and upright posture, and will he be able to finish in traffic against bigger, more athletic bigs.

He has really exceptional feel/creativity/vision at the PG spot though, puts him in rare company as an initiator at that height.

I'm interested in seeing how he goes in the NBL next year, and how much run he gets. People over here expect him as Mojave King to be 1st rounders in a couple of years. King actually declined the BWB invitation this year, not sure why, figured it would've been good exposure for him. He's healthy. Also sat out Australian national's earlier this month.

Out of the other BWB guys, I really like Mathurin from Canada. His hang dribble/pull up game and athleticism reminds me of Antonio Blakeney, but he has a willingness to pass and is bigger. Some really strong offensive upside to his game imo.
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Post#38 » by Marcus » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:58 am

Dior Johnson committed to Syracuse and ain't nobody say nothing?
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Post#39 » by Sea2003 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:13 am

Isn't he primed to be OAD?
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Post#40 » by Marcus » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:35 am

Sea2003 wrote:Isn't he primed to be OAD?


Certainly talented enough. Dont think his game is college friendly though. Not at Cuse at least unless something changes.
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