Ja(d)en McDaniels

[Catchall]

He's a guy who could become more aggressive and forceful if he's able to gain strength. For now, he tends to float on the perimeter rather than challenge defenders in the paint. The question with him is whether he will ever develop strength, physicality and explosiveness. If he does, the tools and the talent are there.

[King Ken]

He will take time. He looks like a g leaguer on both ends right now but the talent and tools is OBVIOUS.

[Stillwater]

I dont see his game being anything like KD.
he might be a little better offensive option than Kevin Knox with about the same projected meh start to his career in all likely scenarios if drafted by a team gifting him bad team minutes.
in fact I would not be surprised if the money makes him work less not more.

[Sir-Swish-A-Lot]

I dont see his game being anything like KD.
he might be a little better offensive option than Kevin Knox with about the same projected meh start to his career in all likely scenarios if drafted by a team gifting him bad team minutes.
in fact I would not be surprised if the money makes him work less not more.

Just goes to show that you don't know Jaden. Jaden is a gym rat he doesn't do the club scene. His brother Jalen is already in the NBA. They are very competitive. Hopefully he goes to a team with a winning culture like the Spurs where he can maximize his talents because he is very talented. The NBA's wide open game is a perfect match for Jaden's all around skill set. Jaden's NBA future is very bright like a super nova.

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[Stillwater]

I dont see his game being anything like KD.
he might be a little better offensive option than Kevin Knox with about the same projected meh start to his career in all likely scenarios if drafted by a team gifting him bad team minutes.
in fact I would not be surprised if the money makes him work less not more.

Just goes to show that you don't know Jaden. Jaden is a gym rat he doesn't do the club scene. His brother Jalen is already in the NBA. They are very competitive. Hopefully he goes to a team with a winning culture like the Spurs where he can maximize his talents because he is very talented. The NBA's wide open game is a perfect match for Jaden's all around skill set. Jaden's NBA future is very bright like a super nova.

And you know him ?
Do tell...nobody is a gym rat right now , i bet he spends his days on the couch playing games.
I was intrigued by his upside initially and yeah he can play some, but hes too weak to play pf in the nba maybe he can prove to be more engaged over time but he looks uncoachable proven to be very immature and far from a finished product aka development based prospect so yeah he could easily take the road that doesnt reach his ceiling.

[King Ken]

I dont see his game being anything like KD.
he might be a little better offensive option than Kevin Knox with about the same projected meh start to his career in all likely scenarios if drafted by a team gifting him bad team minutes.
in fact I would not be surprised if the money makes him work less not more.

Just goes to show that you don't know Jaden. Jaden is a gym rat he doesn't do the club scene. His brother Jalen is already in the NBA. They are very competitive. Hopefully he goes to a team with a winning culture like the Spurs where he can maximize his talents because he is very talented. The NBA's wide open game is a perfect match for Jaden's all around skill set. Jaden's NBA future is very bright like a super nova.

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If Stillwater doesn't like him, he must be better than I thought

[Stillwater]

I dont see his game being anything like KD.
he might be a little better offensive option than Kevin Knox with about the same projected meh start to his career in all likely scenarios if drafted by a team gifting him bad team minutes.
in fact I would not be surprised if the money makes him work less not more.

Just goes to show that you don't know Jaden. Jaden is a gym rat he doesn't do the club scene. His brother Jalen is already in the NBA. They are very competitive. Hopefully he goes to a team with a winning culture like the Spurs where he can maximize his talents because he is very talented. The NBA's wide open game is a perfect match for Jaden's all around skill set. Jaden's NBA future is very bright like a super nova.

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If Stillwater doesn't like him, he must be better than I thought

sour grapes...
I do like his upside, dont see him having too many teams who are actually trying to build something willing to put up with his childish behavior. he should fit in right away down in ATL with the rest of the primas who havent earned it.

[Sir-Swish-A-Lot]

I dont see his game being anything like KD.
he might be a little better offensive option than Kevin Knox with about the same projected meh start to his career in all likely scenarios if drafted by a team gifting him bad team minutes.
in fact I would not be surprised if the money makes him work less not more.

Just goes to show that you don't know Jaden. Jaden is a gym rat he doesn't do the club scene. His brother Jalen is already in the NBA. They are very competitive. Hopefully he goes to a team with a winning culture like the Spurs where he can maximize his talents because he is very talented. The NBA's wide open game is a perfect match for Jaden's all around skill set. Jaden's NBA future is very bright like a super nova.

And you know him ?
Do tell...nobody is a gym rat right now , i bet he spends his days on the couch playing games.
I was intrigued by his upside initially and yeah he can play some, but hes too weak to play pf in the nba maybe he can prove to be more engaged over time but he looks uncoachable proven to be very immature and far from a finished product aka development based prospect so yeah he could easily take the road that doesnt reach his ceiling.

I know his trainer Cartiea French-Toney. And you have no idea how he spends his days because if you did you would change your tune but then again you do not know what you are posting about.

Many scouts said Brandon Ingram was too skinny but he's a NBA all star with a slight build. KD was extra skinny coming out of college but he got bigger as he matured. Chris Boucher (Raptors) weighs 205 pounds at 6'10 yet he is able to effectively bang in the paint against bigger players. The NBA is more of a finnesse game than a power based game nowadays.

Also, Jaden's brother Jalen McDaniels has a very similar build to Jaden and he played well for the Hornets this season. I believe that you have watched Jalen play this season- haven't you? Jaden is a better player than Jalen- do the full math not the self serving half.

Mike Hopkins, his college coach, said that Jaden was very coachable so there goes that load of balderdash right out of the window coming from your posted words. Another assumption coming from you based on zero facts.

Yes, he is far from a finished product at 19 years of age but once he gets into a NBA program and is able to fully concentrate on basketball 100% of the time his skill level will continue to get better and his body will fill out as he hits the weight room. Let's see what Jaden looks like in 2-3 years after being able to grind out in a professional environment.

The NBA's wide open game is a perfect fit for his skill set. He has the most potential out of any draftee in this draft in my mind. Looking back in 5 years Jaden could end up the best player drafted in 2020 he has that much untapped talent to draw upon and the work ethic, desire to manifest it out of himself.

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[clyde21]

boom or bust, I don't see a lot of middle ground with him

[Stillwater]

Just goes to show that you don't know Jaden. Jaden is a gym rat he doesn't do the club scene. His brother Jalen is already in the NBA. They are very competitive. Hopefully he goes to a team with a winning culture like the Spurs where he can maximize his talents because he is very talented. The NBA's wide open game is a perfect match for Jaden's all around skill set. Jaden's NBA future is very bright like a super nova.

And you know him ?
Do tell...nobody is a gym rat right now , i bet he spends his days on the couch playing games.
I was intrigued by his upside initially and yeah he can play some, but hes too weak to play pf in the nba maybe he can prove to be more engaged over time but he looks uncoachable proven to be very immature and far from a finished product aka development based prospect so yeah he could easily take the road that doesnt reach his ceiling.

I know his trainer Cartiea French-Toney. And you have no idea how he spends his days because if you did you would change your tune but then again you do not know what you are posting about.

Many scouts said Brandon Ingram was too skinny but he's a NBA all star with a slight build. KD was extra skinny coming out of college but he got bigger as he matured. Chris Boucher (Raptors) weighs 205 pounds at 6'10 yet he is able to effectively bang in the paint against bigger players. The NBA is more of a finnesse game than a power based game nowadays.

Also, Jaden's brother Jalen McDaniels has a very similar build to Jaden and he played well for the Hornets this season. I believe that you have watched Jalen play this season- haven't you? Jaden is a better player than Jalen- do the full math not the self serving half.

Mike Hopkins, his college coach, said that Jaden was very coachable so there goes that load of balderdash right out of the window coming from your posted words. Another assumption coming from you based on zero facts.

Yes, he is far from a finished product at 19 years of age but once he gets into a NBA program and is able to fully concentrate on basketball 100% of the time his skill level will continue to get better and his body will fill out as he hits the weight room. Let's see what Jaden looks like in 2-3 years after being able to grind out in a professional environment.

The NBA's wide open game is a perfect fit for his skill set. He has the most potential out of any draftee in this draft in my mind. Looking back in 5 years Jaden could end up the best player drafted in 2020 he has that much untapped talent to draw upon and the work ethic, desire to manifest it out of himself.

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thats a pretty blanketed argument. His brother has been meh at best.
All of my coaches claimed I was teachable and failed to teach me anything...unless I wanted to be taught. That was in 9th and 10th grade. I expect more maturity from someone like McDaniels at this point in his development.
I think you should question the aloof personality and approach before you throw all your eggs in one cart.
I think its great you know his trainer, but that also makes you biased if it isn't a los.
This guy has the clear arrogance and confidence of a top ten lock but played like a fringe first rounder in a weak draft class and he has the mid 2nd flier to undrafted badge among the general scouting community because of his constant disengagement in college.
He has to somehow communicate to teams that is repairable or being misunderstood if in fact it is false, but he might not get that chance without a combine setting.
That does not mean he will fail at the next level and it does maybe mean he really was just bored. However, claiming it's one way or the other without a proven track record in college makes the risk higher and so unless all things fall in place like you say they absolutely will, I would be a skeptic about him.
I like prospects better who love the game so much they are always engaged regardless of if its a pickup game or a nat championship...he looks like the type that doesn't get up for much of anything.

[getrichordie]

And you know him ?
Do tell...nobody is a gym rat right now , i bet he spends his days on the couch playing games.
I was intrigued by his upside initially and yeah he can play some, but hes too weak to play pf in the nba maybe he can prove to be more engaged over time but he looks uncoachable proven to be very immature and far from a finished product aka development based prospect so yeah he could easily take the road that doesnt reach his ceiling.

I know his trainer Cartiea French-Toney. And you have no idea how he spends his days because if you did you would change your tune but then again you do not know what you are posting about.

Many scouts said Brandon Ingram was too skinny but he's a NBA all star with a slight build. KD was extra skinny coming out of college but he got bigger as he matured. Chris Boucher (Raptors) weighs 205 pounds at 6'10 yet he is able to effectively bang in the paint against bigger players. The NBA is more of a finnesse game than a power based game nowadays.

Also, Jaden's brother Jalen McDaniels has a very similar build to Jaden and he played well for the Hornets this season. I believe that you have watched Jalen play this season- haven't you? Jaden is a better player than Jalen- do the full math not the self serving half.

Mike Hopkins, his college coach, said that Jaden was very coachable so there goes that load of balderdash right out of the window coming from your posted words. Another assumption coming from you based on zero facts.

Yes, he is far from a finished product at 19 years of age but once he gets into a NBA program and is able to fully concentrate on basketball 100% of the time his skill level will continue to get better and his body will fill out as he hits the weight room. Let's see what Jaden looks like in 2-3 years after being able to grind out in a professional environment.

The NBA's wide open game is a perfect fit for his skill set. He has the most potential out of any draftee in this draft in my mind. Looking back in 5 years Jaden could end up the best player drafted in 2020 he has that much untapped talent to draw upon and the work ethic, desire to manifest it out of himself.

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thats a pretty blanketed argument. His brother has been meh at best.
All of my coaches claimed I was teachable and failed to teach me anything...unless I wanted to be taught. That was in 9th and 10th grade. I expect more maturity from someone like McDaniels at this point in his development.
I think you should question the aloof personality and approach before you throw all your eggs in one cart.
I think its great you know his trainer, but that also makes you biased if it isn't a los.
This guy has the clear arrogance and confidence of a top ten lock but played like a fringe first rounder in a weak draft class and he has the mid 2nd flier to undrafted badge among the general scouting community because of his constant disengagement in college.
He has to somehow communicate to teams that is repairable or being misunderstood if in fact it is false, but he might not get that chance without a combine setting.
That does not mean he will fail at the next level and it does maybe mean he really was just bored. However, claiming it's one way or the other without a proven track record in college makes the risk higher and so unless all things fall in place like you say they absolutely will, I would be a skeptic about him.
I like prospects better who love the game so much they are always engaged regardless of if its a pickup game or a nat championship...he looks like the type that doesn't get up for much of anything.

Huh? What evidence is there of an "aloof" personality? And where are you getting that he's arrogant?

[Sir-Swish-A-Lot]

And you know him ?
Do tell...nobody is a gym rat right now , i bet he spends his days on the couch playing games.
I was intrigued by his upside initially and yeah he can play some, but hes too weak to play pf in the nba maybe he can prove to be more engaged over time but he looks uncoachable proven to be very immature and far from a finished product aka development based prospect so yeah he could easily take the road that doesnt reach his ceiling.

I know his trainer Cartiea French-Toney. And you have no idea how he spends his days because if you did you would change your tune but then again you do not know what you are posting about.

Many scouts said Brandon Ingram was too skinny but he's a NBA all star with a slight build. KD was extra skinny coming out of college but he got bigger as he matured. Chris Boucher (Raptors) weighs 205 pounds at 6'10 yet he is able to effectively bang in the paint against bigger players. The NBA is more of a finnesse game than a power based game nowadays.

Also, Jaden's brother Jalen McDaniels has a very similar build to Jaden and he played well for the Hornets this season. I believe that you have watched Jalen play this season- haven't you? Jaden is a better player than Jalen- do the full math not the self serving half.

Mike Hopkins, his college coach, said that Jaden was very coachable so there goes that load of balderdash right out of the window coming from your posted words. Another assumption coming from you based on zero facts.

Yes, he is far from a finished product at 19 years of age but once he gets into a NBA program and is able to fully concentrate on basketball 100% of the time his skill level will continue to get better and his body will fill out as he hits the weight room. Let's see what Jaden looks like in 2-3 years after being able to grind out in a professional environment.

The NBA's wide open game is a perfect fit for his skill set. He has the most potential out of any draftee in this draft in my mind. Looking back in 5 years Jaden could end up the best player drafted in 2020 he has that much untapped talent to draw upon and the work ethic, desire to manifest it out of himself.

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thats a pretty blanketed argument. His brother has been meh at best.
All of my coaches claimed I was teachable and failed to teach me anything...unless I wanted to be taught. That was in 9th and 10th grade. I expect more maturity from someone like McDaniels at this point in his development.
I think you should question the aloof personality and approach before you throw all your eggs in one cart.
I think its great you know his trainer, but that also makes you biased if it isn't a los.
This guy has the clear arrogance and confidence of a top ten lock but played like a fringe first rounder in a weak draft class and he has the mid 2nd flier to undrafted badge among the general scouting community because of his constant disengagement in college.
He has to somehow communicate to teams that is repairable or being misunderstood if in fact it is false, but he might not get that chance without a combine setting.
That does not mean he will fail at the next level and it does maybe mean he really was just bored. However, claiming it's one way or the other without a proven track record in college makes the risk higher and so unless all things fall in place like you say they absolutely will, I would be a skeptic about him.
I like prospects better who love the game so much they are always engaged regardless of if its a pickup game or a nat championship...he looks like the type that doesn't get up for much of anything.

Jalen played well off of the bench on both ends of the court in limited minutes for the Hornets as a 2nd round draft pick of slender build in the games that I watched him play in. Comparing yourself to Jaden...c'mon man. That's like comparing a Yugo to a Bentley.

All of the characteristics that you put forth are just some self serving rhetoric based on nothing. His college coach has said the opposite of what you put forth and I happen to know that he lived in the gym/weight room and it showed as he looked stronger as the season went on. Jaden has a very bright future and I have all the confidence that he will maximize his talents through hard work. Have a good day, buddy.

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[Stillwater]

I know his trainer Cartiea French-Toney. And you have no idea how he spends his days because if you did you would change your tune but then again you do not know what you are posting about.

Many scouts said Brandon Ingram was too skinny but he's a NBA all star with a slight build. KD was extra skinny coming out of college but he got bigger as he matured. Chris Boucher (Raptors) weighs 205 pounds at 6'10 yet he is able to effectively bang in the paint against bigger players. The NBA is more of a finnesse game than a power based game nowadays.

Also, Jaden's brother Jalen McDaniels has a very similar build to Jaden and he played well for the Hornets this season. I believe that you have watched Jalen play this season- haven't you? Jaden is a better player than Jalen- do the full math not the self serving half.

Mike Hopkins, his college coach, said that Jaden was very coachable so there goes that load of balderdash right out of the window coming from your posted words. Another assumption coming from you based on zero facts.

Yes, he is far from a finished product at 19 years of age but once he gets into a NBA program and is able to fully concentrate on basketball 100% of the time his skill level will continue to get better and his body will fill out as he hits the weight room. Let's see what Jaden looks like in 2-3 years after being able to grind out in a professional environment.

The NBA's wide open game is a perfect fit for his skill set. He has the most potential out of any draftee in this draft in my mind. Looking back in 5 years Jaden could end up the best player drafted in 2020 he has that much untapped talent to draw upon and the work ethic, desire to manifest it out of himself.

Watch on YouTube

thats a pretty blanketed argument. His brother has been meh at best.
All of my coaches claimed I was teachable and failed to teach me anything...unless I wanted to be taught. That was in 9th and 10th grade. I expect more maturity from someone like McDaniels at this point in his development.
I think you should question the aloof personality and approach before you throw all your eggs in one cart.
I think its great you know his trainer, but that also makes you biased if it isn't a los.
This guy has the clear arrogance and confidence of a top ten lock but played like a fringe first rounder in a weak draft class and he has the mid 2nd flier to undrafted badge among the general scouting community because of his constant disengagement in college.
He has to somehow communicate to teams that is repairable or being misunderstood if in fact it is false, but he might not get that chance without a combine setting.
That does not mean he will fail at the next level and it does maybe mean he really was just bored. However, claiming it's one way or the other without a proven track record in college makes the risk higher and so unless all things fall in place like you say they absolutely will, I would be a skeptic about him.
I like prospects better who love the game so much they are always engaged regardless of if its a pickup game or a nat championship...he looks like the type that doesn't get up for much of anything.

Jalen played well off of the bench on both ends of the court in limited minutes for the Hornets as a 2nd round draft pick of slender build in the games that I watched him play in. Comparing yourself to Jaden...c'mon man. That's like comparing a Yugo to a Bentley.

All of the characteristics that you put forth are just some self serving rhetoric based on nothing. His college coach has said the opposite of what you put forth and I happen to know that he lived in the gym/weight room and it showed as he looked stronger as the season went on. Jaden has a very bright future and I have all the confidence that he will maximize his talents through hard work. Have a good day, buddy.

Unless the Cavs pick him idk what happens with him but if they do i hope you're right.
needs to just smile more instead of looking disinterested if in fact he's just bored.
What scouts think of you goes way beyond what actually is or isnt...
I mean the kid who knows how to play the marketing game selling himself can always sucker at least 1 gm on his upside.
Standing there pounding your chest so to speak when the offense is going through Isaiah not you also looks like entitled not a team mindset.

[getrichordie]

thats a pretty blanketed argument. His brother has been meh at best.
All of my coaches claimed I was teachable and failed to teach me anything...unless I wanted to be taught. That was in 9th and 10th grade. I expect more maturity from someone like McDaniels at this point in his development.
I think you should question the aloof personality and approach before you throw all your eggs in one cart.
I think its great you know his trainer, but that also makes you biased if it isn't a los.
This guy has the clear arrogance and confidence of a top ten lock but played like a fringe first rounder in a weak draft class and he has the mid 2nd flier to undrafted badge among the general scouting community because of his constant disengagement in college.
He has to somehow communicate to teams that is repairable or being misunderstood if in fact it is false, but he might not get that chance without a combine setting.
That does not mean he will fail at the next level and it does maybe mean he really was just bored. However, claiming it's one way or the other without a proven track record in college makes the risk higher and so unless all things fall in place like you say they absolutely will, I would be a skeptic about him.
I like prospects better who love the game so much they are always engaged regardless of if its a pickup game or a nat championship...he looks like the type that doesn't get up for much of anything.

Jalen played well off of the bench on both ends of the court in limited minutes for the Hornets as a 2nd round draft pick of slender build in the games that I watched him play in. Comparing yourself to Jaden...c'mon man. That's like comparing a Yugo to a Bentley.

All of the characteristics that you put forth are just some self serving rhetoric based on nothing. His college coach has said the opposite of what you put forth and I happen to know that he lived in the gym/weight room and it showed as he looked stronger as the season went on. Jaden has a very bright future and I have all the confidence that he will maximize his talents through hard work. Have a good day, buddy.

Unless the Cavs pick him idk what happens with him but if they do i hope you're right.
needs to just smile more instead of looking disinterested if in fact he's just bored.
What scouts think of you goes way beyond what actually is or isnt...
I mean the kid who knows how to play the marketing game selling himself can always sucker at least 1 gm on his upside.
Standing there pounding your chest so to speak when the offense is going through Isaiah not you also looks like entitled not a team mindset.

Brandon Ingram.

[Sir-Swish-A-Lot]

thats a pretty blanketed argument. His brother has been meh at best.
All of my coaches claimed I was teachable and failed to teach me anything...unless I wanted to be taught. That was in 9th and 10th grade. I expect more maturity from someone like McDaniels at this point in his development.
I think you should question the aloof personality and approach before you throw all your eggs in one cart.
I think its great you know his trainer, but that also makes you biased if it isn't a los.
This guy has the clear arrogance and confidence of a top ten lock but played like a fringe first rounder in a weak draft class and he has the mid 2nd flier to undrafted badge among the general scouting community because of his constant disengagement in college.
He has to somehow communicate to teams that is repairable or being misunderstood if in fact it is false, but he might not get that chance without a combine setting.
That does not mean he will fail at the next level and it does maybe mean he really was just bored. However, claiming it's one way or the other without a proven track record in college makes the risk higher and so unless all things fall in place like you say they absolutely will, I would be a skeptic about him.
I like prospects better who love the game so much they are always engaged regardless of if its a pickup game or a nat championship...he looks like the type that doesn't get up for much of anything.

Jalen played well off of the bench on both ends of the court in limited minutes for the Hornets as a 2nd round draft pick of slender build in the games that I watched him play in. Comparing yourself to Jaden...c'mon man. That's like comparing a Yugo to a Bentley.

All of the characteristics that you put forth are just some self serving rhetoric based on nothing. His college coach has said the opposite of what you put forth and I happen to know that he lived in the gym/weight room and it showed as he looked stronger as the season went on. Jaden has a very bright future and I have all the confidence that he will maximize his talents through hard work. Have a good day, buddy.

Unless the Cavs pick him idk what happens with him but if they do i hope you're right.
needs to just smile more instead of looking disinterested if in fact he's just bored.
What scouts think of you goes way beyond what actually is or isnt...
I mean the kid who knows how to play the marketing game selling himself can always sucker at least 1 gm on his upside.
Standing there pounding your chest so to speak when the offense is going through Isaiah not you also looks like entitled not a team mindset.

Smile more? This is not a minstrel show. Different players have different personalities. Kawhi Leonard doesn't smile on the court he is all business. Jaden plays hard on both ends of the court and has shown emotion on the court/from the bench when his teammates make big plays. Jaden is a very humble kind of person despite what you may think about him.

Scouts will talk to his college coach. They will interview him. The NBA has a process. All the stuff that you say about Jaden people said about Kevin Porter Jr and he turned out just fine because perception often times isn't reality especially when you don't personally know the person you are talking about.

I never seen him pound his chest because the offense wasn't so called going through him. Jaden was often looking to get the ball to Isaiah in the post himself. Do you have any real idea what you are posting about? Just slandering a teenager for the sake of it while hiding behind a keyboard?

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[Stillwater]

Highlight reels are great for posers...
What I saw that rubbed me wrong after having high expectations pre season is he is almost always
pressing/ forcing his will instead of letting it come to him. He might have the
cockiness to back it up but the lack of game to make it worth backing it up and the lack of
strength to be taken serious at the next level without making a significantly higher %
of the shots he takes that he shouldn't be taking out of the rhythm of the offense.
His upside is elite, and he has been put in a box , so I respect the opinions defending him.
I do not hold a ton of weight in my perceptions of
his attitude or body language, but he failed to back up the hype
coming into the season, and so no matter how many positives he has to dub into
highlight film, it cant hide the legit concerns of having a short fuse and unjustified in most cases, makes
me think the IQ as a player is farther away than suggested.
Let me guess it was his ankle that caused the techs the poor shooting % and the inability to
finish well in traffic?
didn't think so

[Catchall]

The question with McDaniels is whether he'll be able to mature physically enough to get to the rim and finish in the NBA. That's really it. The jumper and the basic ball skills are there, and he has potential as a help-side defender. However, he's got to be a threat to score off the dribble in order to get some separation from defenders and open up his game.

Like Jonathan Isaac and Brandon Ingram, it's probably going to be a couple seasons before he has much impact. A player with that body type who cuts hard also might carry some extra risk of a knee injury, imo, so I would price that in.

[getrichordie]

Highlight reels are great for posers...
What I saw that rubbed me wrong after having high expectations pre season is he is almost always
pressing/ forcing his will instead of letting it come to him. He might have the
cockiness to back it up but the lack of game to make it worth backing it up and the lack of
strength to be taken serious at the next level without making a significantly higher %
of the shots he takes that he shouldn't be taking out of the rhythm of the offense.
His upside is elite, and he has been put in a box , so I respect the opinions defending him.
I do not hold a ton of weight in my perceptions of
his attitude or body language, but he failed to back up the hype
coming into the season, and so no matter how many positives he has to dub into
highlight film, it cant hide the legit concerns of having a short fuse and unjustified in most cases, makes
me think the IQ as a player is farther away than suggested.
Let me guess it was his ankle that caused the techs the poor shooting % and the inability to
finish well in traffic?
didn't think so

You still haven't answered my question about where you are getting your information that he is "arrogant" and "cocky" and has a "short fuse." Even if that is the case, Draymond Green has a short fuse. Ron Artest had a short fuse. A lot of successful players in the NBA have had short fuses.

[Stillwater]

Highlight reels are great for posers...
What I saw that rubbed me wrong after having high expectations pre season is he is almost always
pressing/ forcing his will instead of letting it come to him. He might have the
cockiness to back it up but the lack of game to make it worth backing it up and the lack of
strength to be taken serious at the next level without making a significantly higher %
of the shots he takes that he shouldn't be taking out of the rhythm of the offense.
His upside is elite, and he has been put in a box , so I respect the opinions defending him.
I do not hold a ton of weight in my perceptions of
his attitude or body language, but he failed to back up the hype
coming into the season, and so no matter how many positives he has to dub into
highlight film, it cant hide the legit concerns of having a short fuse and unjustified in most cases, makes
me think the IQ as a player is farther away than suggested.
Let me guess it was his ankle that caused the techs the poor shooting % and the inability to
finish well in traffic?
didn't think so

You still haven't answered my question about where you are getting your information that he is "arrogant" and "cocky" and has a "short fuse." Even if that is the case, Draymond Green has a short fuse. Ron Artest had a short fuse. A lot of successful players in the NBA have had short fuses.

Surprisingly isnt much written about it, but I saw it just like anyone else watching the games not the highlight reels...
here is an example although its only one other persons comments:
https://www.si.com/college/washington/basketball/mcdaniels-technicals-add-up-and-prove-costly

[getrichordie]

Highlight reels are great for posers...
What I saw that rubbed me wrong after having high expectations pre season is he is almost always
pressing/ forcing his will instead of letting it come to him. He might have the
cockiness to back it up but the lack of game to make it worth backing it up and the lack of
strength to be taken serious at the next level without making a significantly higher %
of the shots he takes that he shouldn't be taking out of the rhythm of the offense.
His upside is elite, and he has been put in a box , so I respect the opinions defending him.
I do not hold a ton of weight in my perceptions of
his attitude or body language, but he failed to back up the hype
coming into the season, and so no matter how many positives he has to dub into
highlight film, it cant hide the legit concerns of having a short fuse and unjustified in most cases, makes
me think the IQ as a player is farther away than suggested.
Let me guess it was his ankle that caused the techs the poor shooting % and the inability to
finish well in traffic?
didn't think so

You still haven't answered my question about where you are getting your information that he is "arrogant" and "cocky" and has a "short fuse." Even if that is the case, Draymond Green has a short fuse. Ron Artest had a short fuse. A lot of successful players in the NBA have had short fuses.

Surprisingly isnt much written about it, but I saw it just like anyone else watching the games not the highlight reels...
here is an example although its only one other persons comments:
https://www.si.com/college/washington/basketball/mcdaniels-technicals-add-up-and-prove-costly

All I’m seeing is that he gets caught up in the heat of the moment and is competitive. If you held that kind of stuff against players, then you wouldn’t have a Stephenson, a Artest, a Green, and a whole lot of really good players. He’s young. It’s not like this means he’s going to be this way forever...