Fischella wrote:Just put up a 23-17-4-3blocks burger and the team is 5-1 in the last 6, with him as the fulcrum
Dunno, at some point he is just too good, could be Scola 2.0 really, needs to improve his plan on the move while facing up but he does showcase the ability to put it on the floor and not only in transition
He's not Scola. In terms of individual play, Scola is the best FIBA 4/5 of all time. Excluding NBA and FIBA team results, individually as a FIBA player, he was better than Dirk, Pau, Sabonis, Cosic, Radja, name any FIBA big ever, and none of them were as good as Scola was individually in national team games.
He's not Scola. Scola is way more skilled and has way more natural scoring ability.
I have watched Sengun in a few games here and there. Not a big sample size obviously. But he's just what I said earlier in the thread. He's a smaller, less athletic version of Bourousis. If he can stay the size is he is now, he might be OK on defense, especially if we are talking about the no defense NBA. But if he keeps getting bigger, he's not going to be able to play D in space, which is what happened to Bourousis.
But that's what I see, a shorter, smaller, considerably less athletic actually version of Bourousis. Which isn't bad at all. Because prime Bourousis was an absolute beast (he was the best center in Europe at his peak). Sengun doesn't have that kind of athleticism. But he does have that very big body and those very good skills around the basket, the rebounding, the shot blocking, the feel for the game, all of that like Bourousis had. So maybe not comparing him to younger Bourousis, but Bourousis when he was older, like say when he was in his early 30s. Like that, but smaller.
He's is miles away from Scola's moves and skills on offense though. If he just got to the offensive skill level, shooting ability, and moves Bourousis had - he's not there yet, but maybe he could get there, then we are talking about the difference from being extremely skilled for a big man (Bourousis), to being all-time greatest in skills and moves around the high post and low post (Scola).
Scola is a one of a kind player in terms of his offensive skills around the paint area. Plus, he's even one of the best stretch fives ever, and people don't even realize that, because in the NBA, for some reason, they didn't really let him shoot 3s all that much. I guess it was still that old school NBA mentality then, that bigs don't shoot 3s. But he's always been a very dangerous big to leave open on the perimeter as well. And his passing ability is also great. The NBA didn't really utilize Scola's passing ability either, but he's a really damn good passer also. Maybe not quite Sabonis, Divac, Jokic level, but right below that for a big man.
There is no comparison at all there offensively with Sengun and Scola. None. You are talking about really skilled big man (Sengun), versus all-time elite skilled in Scola.
Turkish youth teams are usually successful because of dominant bigs, Turkish men seem to mature a bit faster than western Euros, their teams are always tall and strong. these players dominate youth groups, but in time players like Tillie, Valanciunas, Porzingis etc. catch up to Kanters, Guvens' and Atars and eventually surpass them. I mean I hope you dont take this generalization as racist, but I think its genes, there is truth to that I think
