Brandon Miller - Alabama

[EMG518]

He's super old and nobody is going to talk about it.

Same age as Jaden Ivey coming in - not too many cared about that.

What are you talking about? Jaden Ivey was a sophomore last year and is only 9 months older than Miller is right now.

Miller is several months older than Chet was as a Freshman, and Chet was old for his class.

Super old is a bit of an exaggeration. He is super old for a freshman, not a prospect. If Ivey is 9 months older than Miller, then Ivey was 3 months younger when playing his sophomore year than Miller now.

I think PG is the comp, just doesn't have the vertical pop, PG hasn't had the same vertical pop in a long time though himself.

[EvanZ]

Super old is a bit of an exaggeration. He is super old for a freshman, not a prospect. If Ivey is 9 months older than Miller, then Ivey was 3 months younger when playing his sophomore year than Miller now.

You seem to be doing this wrong. Ivey was a sophomore. Miller *as a Freshman* is older than Ivey was as a sophomore. That matters. I mean unless you want to be bad at doing this. Then by all means feel free to ignore how old he is.

[EvanZ]

He's super old and nobody is going to talk about it.

i've already mentioned several times that he's sophomore aged, i think that's already going into the eval

It's clearly not as people are telling me not to worry about it.

[EvanZ]

Same age as Jaden Ivey coming in - not too many cared about that.

What are you talking about? Jaden Ivey was a sophomore last year and is only 9 months older than Miller is right now.

Miller is several months older than Chet was as a Freshman, and Chet was old for his class.

Lol. What are YOU talking about? They are basically the same age going into the draft. Try to keep up please. You can be a top 5 pick at that age regardless of class so who gives a **** if they are a frosh or a sophomore.

Man, you're bad at this draft stuff. If you don't think it matters whether you're an old Freshman being compared against young Freshman, then by all means have at it.

I'd like to see Miller compared to his peers, which are the sophomores. So yes, if you want to compare Brandon Miller *as a Freshman* to Jaden Ivey *as a sophomore* that's a fair comparison. Please do.

[MemphisX]

He's super old and nobody is going to talk about it.

When did 20 become super old?

[EMG518]

Super old is a bit of an exaggeration. He is super old for a freshman, not a prospect. If Ivey is 9 months older than Miller, then Ivey was 3 months younger when playing his sophomore year than Miller now.

You seem to be doing this wrong. Ivey was a sophomore. Miller *as a Freshman* is older than Ivey was as a sophomore. That matters. I mean unless you want to be bad at doing this. Then by all means feel free to ignore how old he is.

Did you read what I even wrote, he is super old for a freshman, literally the second thing I said. He is only 3 months older than Ivey was as a sophomore so he is not super old for a prospect. He is super old for a freshman. Yes age should be considered but to state he is super old is disingenuous.

[DOT]

He looked rather pedestrian against my Huskies imo

Granted, I haven't seen much from him, and the same thing happened with Evan Mobley 2 years ago, so I'm not judging him yet.

[thelead]

He's definitely top 10 material and he has looked special. The lack of 'fast twitch' athleticism and bounce (from what I've seen) takes some of the shine off for me but he definitely looks good. Please correct me if I'm wrong on the athleticism criticism.

[EvanZ]

Super old is a bit of an exaggeration. He is super old for a freshman, not a prospect. If Ivey is 9 months older than Miller, then Ivey was 3 months younger when playing his sophomore year than Miller now.

You seem to be doing this wrong. Ivey was a sophomore. Miller *as a Freshman* is older than Ivey was as a sophomore. That matters. I mean unless you want to be bad at doing this. Then by all means feel free to ignore how old he is.

Did you read what I even wrote, he is super old for a freshman, literally the second thing I said. He is only 3 months older than Ivey was as a sophomore so he is not super old for a prospect. He is super old for a freshman. Yes age should be considered but to state he is super old is disingenuous.

It’s super disingenuous to pretend like you didn’t know what I was talking about.


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[EvanZ]

He's super old and nobody is going to talk about it.

When did 20 become super old?

It’s very old for a Freshman. How is that not obvious to everyone? It’s like literally the first thing that should be noted every time we talk about him.


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[The Moose]

Some of his flaws on full display in this game against North Carolina

[clyde21]

Harrison Barnes seems like a good comp to me actually, maybe a more aggro version, or high end but unlikely outcome Danny Granger type

[EMG518]

You seem to be doing this wrong. Ivey was a sophomore. Miller *as a Freshman* is older than Ivey was as a sophomore. That matters. I mean unless you want to be bad at doing this. Then by all means feel free to ignore how old he is.

Did you read what I even wrote, he is super old for a freshman, literally the second thing I said. He is only 3 months older than Ivey was as a sophomore so he is not super old for a prospect. He is super old for a freshman. Yes age should be considered but to state he is super old is disingenuous.

It’s super disingenuous to pretend like you didn’t know what I was talking about.


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Every response to your initial post took it the same way.

SeattleJazzFan

Same age as Jaden Ivey coming in - not too many cared about that.


Clyde21

i've already mentioned several times that he's sophomore aged, i think that's already going into the eval

EMG518

Super old is a bit of an exaggeration. He is super old for a freshman, not a prospect. If Ivey is 9 months older than Miller, then Ivey was 3 months younger when playing his sophomore year than Miller now.

MemphisX

When did 20 become super old?


You should rethink your ability to communicate if every single person takes what you say differently than you intend, I personally just think you are now being disingenuous. Everyone knows he is old for a freshman. Everyone also is evaluating him with this knowledge.

[EvanZ]

Everyone knows he is old for a freshman. Everyone also is evaluating him with this knowledge.

Wish I could believe that but when people have him top 3 or 5 or whatever, they clearly aren't taking it into account. That's just facts bro.

[The-Power]

Harrison Barnes seems like a good comp to me actually, maybe a more aggro version, or high end but unlikely outcome Danny Granger type

I don't really see Harrison Barnes. Barnes was more athletic and stronger but not the shooter or passer (even though I'd like Miller to show more in this regard). It's difficult to come up with a comparison that feels solid. Maybe a bit of a cross between old man Batum (less physically strong) and Otto Porter Jr.? It's clear that the combination of lack of burst and non-elite handle means he most certainly won't be a primary initiator at the NBA level. He'll likely settle into more of an off-ball role eventually and you hope that his shot becomes good and versatile enough to allow him to run secondary actions and the occasional PnR.

[clyde21]

Harrison Barnes seems like a good comp to me actually, maybe a more aggro version, or high end but unlikely outcome Danny Granger type

I don't really see Harrison Barnes. Barnes was more athletic and stronger but not the shooter or passer (even though I'd like Miller to show more in this regard). It's difficult to come up with a comparison that feels solid. Maybe a bit of a cross between old man Batum (less physically strong) and Otto Porter Jr.? It's clear that the combination of lack of burst and non-elite handle means he most certainly won't be a primary initiator at the NBA level. He'll likely settle into more of an off-ball role eventually and you hope that his shot becomes good and versatile enough to allow him to run secondary actions and the occasional PnR.

i think HB was an overrated athlete (see his dunk comp), he can probably elevate better than B Miller but functionally speaking don't think he's on a different level athletically. the lack of burst, elite handling (for the position) and lack of playmaking is probably why I comp him to Barnes.

but you're right, hard to find a perfect comp. how often do you want the ball in his hands is the ? and can he make things happen consistently. might boil down to how legit you think his shot is and how consistently he can get it off against NBA talent.

[clyde21]

also not sure why we're still talking about age, Keegan just went 4th overall and he was Jr aged, Ivey and Mathurin were both 20+ and went 5 and 6.

don't think he goes top 6 tho and is probably close to the end of the lotto than the beginning, and this is a stronger class. no way Keegan goes 4th overall in 2023.

[The Moose]

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brutal thus far from anywhere inside the 3pt line

[buzzkilloton]

Looking like a high floor low ceiling 3nD guy.

[EvanZ]

also not sure why we're still talking about age, Keegan just went 4th overall and he was Jr aged, Ivey and Mathurin were both 20+ and went 5 and 6.

don't think he goes top 6 tho and is probably close to the end of the lotto than the beginning, and this is a stronger class. no way Keegan goes 4th overall in 2023.

I was talking about Keegan’s age. So…


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