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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#21 » by pad300 » Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:58 pm

Skybox wrote:His legal issues shouldn't have bearing on his draft spot...


I figure his legal issues are strongly interfering with his pre-draft process. Is he able to to run around the country doing workouts for teams? Is he spending all day in a gym with a trainer? Obviously not..
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#22 » by Skybox » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:06 pm

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Skybox wrote:His legal issues shouldn't have bearing on his draft spot...


I figure his legal issues are strongly interfering with his pre-draft process. Is he able to to run around the country doing workouts for teams? Is he spending all day in a gym with a trainer? Obviously not..



he's not in a cell either
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#23 » by SeattleJazzFan » Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:13 pm

Shannon found not guilty. sounds like the girl set him up.

he's a weird prospect in the sense that his otherworldy speed with the ball is a better fit with the nba's spacing than college, but the nba is tough for non-shooters and he's never shown he can consistently hit from deep. i'd consider him as high as 20-25 i think. his ability and willingness to attack the basket should translate if he can keep defenses honest from deep.
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Post#24 » by FarBeyondDriven » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:35 am

with this news I have to move him up. I really don't see putting him in the 1st round though but we'll see.
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Post#25 » by JRoy » Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:52 am

Looks like that’s behind him now.
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Post#26 » by Dan Z » Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:35 am

SeattleJazzFan wrote:Shannon found not guilty. sounds like the girl set him up.

he's a weird prospect in the sense that his otherworldy speed with the ball is a better fit with the nba's spacing than college, but the nba is tough for non-shooters and he's never shown he can consistently hit from deep. i'd consider him as high as 20-25 i think. his ability and willingness to attack the basket should translate if he can keep defenses honest from deep.


I haven't watched him close enough but this past season he shot .362 from three on 6.7 attempts. Are you saying that's not good?
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Post#27 » by Skybox » Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:06 am

Those aren’t sniper numbers, but that’s high-volume from a guy who’s clearly the guy defenses were keying on. He’s built like Ant Edwards and does most of his damage going to the rim (8.6 fta’s)…so, that 3pt % is promising enough for me- it’s not like he’s reluctant to pull up.

Sometimes we celebrate these guys who shoot 40%…but they won’t shoot unless they’re wide open, taking a set shot, like they’re in their driveway
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#28 » by OrlChamps2030 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:40 pm

FarBeyondDriven wrote:with this news I have to move him up. I really don't see putting him in the 1st round though but we'll see.


Man not even in the first round? You must think this is a pretty strong, deep draft then?
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#29 » by SeattleJazzFan » Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:48 pm

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SeattleJazzFan wrote:Shannon found not guilty. sounds like the girl set him up.

he's a weird prospect in the sense that his otherworldy speed with the ball is a better fit with the nba's spacing than college, but the nba is tough for non-shooters and he's never shown he can consistently hit from deep. i'd consider him as high as 20-25 i think. his ability and willingness to attack the basket should translate if he can keep defenses honest from deep.


I haven't watched him close enough but this past season he shot .362 from three on 6.7 attempts. Are you saying that's not good?


he's been inconsistent. game to game and season to season. keep in mind, i left open the possibility that he may be just fine "if he can keep defenses honest from deep". precisely for that reason - 36% on 7 attempts is solid.

his frosh season he shot 25% from three. bumped it up to 35% the next season. to 38% the next season, then back down to 32% his 4th season. and back to 36% his fifth season. his stroke isn't great and i'm just not sure his shooting can be trusted. but if it can be trusted - even just average, with his ability to attack, he could be dangerous.
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Post#30 » by BigGargamel » Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:24 pm

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FarBeyondDriven wrote:with this news I have to move him up. I really don't see putting him in the 1st round though but we'll see.


Man not even in the first round? You must think this is a pretty strong, deep draft then?


This draft is weak at the top but I love the depth. I probably don't have Shannon in my top 30 either, though I expect him to come off the board pretty early in the second round.
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#31 » by sip » Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:57 pm

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SeattleJazzFan wrote:Shannon found not guilty. sounds like the girl set him up.

he's a weird prospect in the sense that his otherworldy speed with the ball is a better fit with the nba's spacing than college, but the nba is tough for non-shooters and he's never shown he can consistently hit from deep. i'd consider him as high as 20-25 i think. his ability and willingness to attack the basket should translate if he can keep defenses honest from deep.


I haven't watched him close enough but this past season he shot .362 from three on 6.7 attempts. Are you saying that's not good?


he's been inconsistent. game to game and season to season. keep in mind, i left open the possibility that he may be just fine "if he can keep defenses honest from deep". precisely for that reason - 36% on 7 attempts is solid.

his frosh season he shot 25% from three. bumped it up to 35% the next season. to 38% the next season, then back down to 32% his 4th season. and back to 36% his fifth season. his stroke isn't great and i'm just not sure his shooting can be trusted. but if it can be trusted - even just average, with his ability to attack, he could be dangerous.


I wouldn't expect him to have any issues keeping the defense honest from 3. He is not going to be a guy that you can just sag off of as part of the gameplan.
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#32 » by Chi town » Sat Jun 15, 2024 1:16 am

Skybox wrote:Those aren’t sniper numbers, but that’s high-volume from a guy who’s clearly the guy defenses were keying on. He’s built like Ant Edwards and does most of his damage going to the rim (8.6 fta’s)…so, that 3pt % is promising enough for me- it’s not like he’s reluctant to pull up.

Sometimes we celebrate these guys who shoot 40%…but they won’t shoot unless they’re wide open, taking a set shot, like they’re in their driveway


This. Creating 3s off the volume is a totally different animal.

TSJ has to clean up his shot though. Much like Ayo. Shoots in front of him to much. He will and he will be a steal.
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#33 » by FarBeyondDriven » Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:39 am

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FarBeyondDriven wrote:with this news I have to move him up. I really don't see putting him in the 1st round though but we'll see.


Man not even in the first round? You must think this is a pretty strong, deep draft then?


yeah, it's very deep imo and there's just so many other guys I'm more intrigued by but I've moved him up a little in the middle of the 2nd.
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#34 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:56 am

babyjax13 wrote:He's just way smaller than guys he is being compared to (Marion, Thaddeus Young, DJJ, Bridges). He's, IMO a shooting guard who could play some spot minutes at 3, but is best not. That's perfectly fine, but I think it matters to keep in mind. I don't have a great comp for him (maybe ... poor man's Jalen Green).

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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#35 » by babyjax13 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:01 am

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Post#36 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:10 am

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Post#37 » by FarBeyondDriven » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:14 am

kinda love the fit tbh. Wolves are poised to contend for the foreseeable future. But man, those future picks could be very valuable should Edwards ever demand a trade once Gobert and KAT age out.
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#38 » by babyjax13 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:16 am

I agree that it is a good fit. Very interesting draft for Minnesota - neither Dillingham nor Shannon are my favorites, but I do like the location and they each make sense.
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Post#39 » by Klomp » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:22 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:kinda love the fit tbh. Wolves are poised to contend for the foreseeable future. But man, those future picks could be very valuable should Edwards ever demand a trade once Gobert and KAT age out.

That's really the only risk for Minnesota. But SA banking on picks 6 years out is risky too. Remember when the MIN 1st from the Sam Cassell trade was a prized commodity?! It turned out to be Austin Rivers.

I think the Boston-Brooklyn trade from a decade ago also has people spooked. But unlike that Brooklyn team, this Minnesota group is not very old. Mike Conley, Rudy Gobert and Karl-Anthony Towns are the only three players under contract for 2024-25 who are older than 25 years old right now.
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Re: Terrence Shannon Jr 

Post#40 » by Sealab2024 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 1:12 am

Dude looked as legit in a summer league game as I've ever seen someone look and let it be known that his first professional points came by way of absolutely baptizing Yves Missi on as savage a dunk as I've seen from a guy getting his first taste of the league.
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