The Sum of All Jeremiah Fears

[zzaj]

He can definitely play. His high screen negotiation does remind me a lot of Lillard...and I watched every Lillard game for a decade. He has a shifty-ness and a playing-bigger-than-his-size/not backing down from anyone that also reminds me of Iverson a little bit.

If he has a head on his shoulders, I agree he'll actually be better in the NBA than in college.

[BigGargamel]

I spoke way too early about this dude. I got him all the way up to 5 now. With so many top guys struggling offensively, he seems to be a dog.

[BlazersBroncos]

Ya he has eclipsed Demin for me. Have him 5.

1. Flagg
2. Harper
3. Kasparas
4. Ace
5. Fears

[vincecarter4pres]

I like Fears a lot, there is a lot to like, and I have only got to catch half a game and some YT clips, but does anyone else feel like he lacks first step/burst? Especially for a player of his stature?

Like he’s sneaky good at navigating screens, he’s overall fast and his step isn’t bad, but to me it also isn’t even close to elite, and his explosiveness in the paint is also a tad sus, at least trying to project it against NBA length, athleticism and timing.

Someone tell me I’m crazy.

And I don’t think he absolutely needs those things to be elite to be a star, nor would him “only” becoming a plus level starter be bad, but I just feel the smaller, more below the rim superstars and even just stars, like the Kyrie’s, Lillard’s, prime Curry’s, and even the Garland’s and Brunson’s of the world just have a much nastier first step and change of direction.

[Catchall]

I have him top 6, ahead of Demin and Edgecombe. I'd like to see his 3p shooting improve by season's end.

[EvanZ]

An 18-year old playing for a high major who is shooting 61% TS on 31% USG without even hitting 30% on his 3s is pretty wild. To me his strengths are similar to Shai although I think Fears will end up relying more on his strength than his wiggle, if that makes sense.

[vincecarter4pres]

But anything more on my specific points?

I’m asking though, if I’m just jaded and overreacting to the very limited sample size I’ve been privy to thus far, or my extremely limited observations hold water?

[Chi town]

Ya he has eclipsed Demin for me. Have him 5.

1. Flagg
2. Harper
3. Kasparas
4. Ace
5. Fears

That’s my top 5 too. May have Fears over Ace.

[Chi town]

Fears has Lillard like upside if he can simply knock down his 3s. Don’t see him getting Lillards 3 ball but I think he’s better than Lillard at same stage off the bounce and on D.

Kid is a competitor.

[tontoz]

Fears has Lillard like upside if he can simply knock down his 3s. Don’t see him getting Lillards 3 ball but I think he’s better than Lillard at same stage off the bounce and on D.

Kid is a competitor.

Looks like he's already spending some time in the weight room. Not afraid of contact.

[Ell Curry]

I like Fears a lot, there is a lot to like, and I have only got to catch half a game and some YT clips, but does anyone else feel like he lacks first step/burst? Especially for a player of his stature?

Like he’s sneaky good at navigating screens, he’s overall fast and his step isn’t bad, but to me it also isn’t even close to elite, and his explosiveness in the paint is also a tad sus, at least trying to project it against NBA length, athleticism and timing.

Someone tell me I’m crazy.

And I don’t think he absolutely needs those things to be elite to be a star, nor would him “only” becoming a plus level starter be bad, but I just feel the smaller, more below the rim superstars and even just stars, like the Kyrie’s, Lillard’s, prime Curry’s, and even the Garland’s and Brunson’s of the world just have a much nastier first step and change of direction.

I've really only seen him for a full game once but Boogie Fland looked slightly faster to me as a point of comparison, though Fears definitely had more skill on O and looked more like a 20 point a game guy.

[vincecarter4pres]

I like Fears a lot, there is a lot to like, and I have only got to catch half a game and some YT clips, but does anyone else feel like he lacks first step/burst? Especially for a player of his stature?

Like he’s sneaky good at navigating screens, he’s overall fast and his step isn’t bad, but to me it also isn’t even close to elite, and his explosiveness in the paint is also a tad sus, at least trying to project it against NBA length, athleticism and timing.

Someone tell me I’m crazy.

And I don’t think he absolutely needs those things to be elite to be a star, nor would him “only” becoming a plus level starter be bad, but I just feel the smaller, more below the rim superstars and even just stars, like the Kyrie’s, Lillard’s, prime Curry’s, and even the Garland’s and Brunson’s of the world just have a much nastier first step and change of direction.

I've really only seen him for a full game once but Boogie Fland looked slightly faster to me as a point of comparison, though Fears definitely had more skill on O and looked more like a 20 point a game guy.

Watched another full game on dvr earlier today and I’m still thinking more Dennis Schröder then Darius Garland.

[The-Power]

He has really struggled in Conference Play thus far. Obviously it's only three games in and I expect him to look better going forward but for a player like him, more so than for some others, it is key to continue producing at a high level when the competition gets tougher. That's because teams will want to pick him (high) in the lottery only if they see a dominant offensive player in him that can run the offense and take up a ton of usage against NBA teams.

[vincecarter4pres]

So has anyone watched much of him since the last posts itt?

I haven’t watched Oklahoma since a couple days after my last post in here and it was a pretty subpar game iirc.

Edit: It was the game against Texas, and I just remember being a bit underwhelmed and thinking his boxscore looked a lot better than the eye test. It was like 4 weeks ago though and I can’t remember what I ate for breakfast lol.

[The-Power]

So has anyone watched much of him since the last posts itt?

I haven’t watched Oklahoma since a couple days after my last post in here and it was a pretty subpar game iirc.

Edit: It was the game against Texas, and I just remember being a bit underwhelmed and thinking his boxscore looked a lot better than the eye test. It was like 4 weeks ago though and I can’t remember what I ate for breakfast lol.

He's really been underwhelming. And that's a big issue because a player like him should only be drafted high if you buy into him as a lead Guard even in the NBA. The moment it looks like he cannot clear that threshold, he becomes a small Guard off the bench and that's maybe worth a late FRP.

Right now, I struggle to project him as good enough to justify running an NBA offense in a high-usage role. And that drops him down considerably. I can also see what you mean regarding the boxscore/eye test discrepancy. I have noticed him getting some foul calls that I'm not sure he would in the NBA and he has also struggled to break defenses down consistently but still picks up a bunch of assists by virtue of having the ball in his hands (of course he also still provides high-value assists but his playmaking has been a bit underwhelming all things considered).

I still believe he'll be a considerably better shooter from deep than what the current percentages indicate but with the limitations that come with his lack of size and not being an elite athlete, I could see him having a hard time in the NBA. Tough to place him right now on the draft board.

[greg4012]

I like Fears a lot, there is a lot to like, and I have only got to catch half a game and some YT clips, but does anyone else feel like he lacks first step/burst? Especially for a player of his stature?

Like he’s sneaky good at navigating screens, he’s overall fast and his step isn’t bad, but to me it also isn’t even close to elite, and his explosiveness in the paint is also a tad sus, at least trying to project it against NBA length, athleticism and timing.

Someone tell me I’m crazy.

And I don’t think he absolutely needs those things to be elite to be a star, nor would him “only” becoming a plus level starter be bad, but I just feel the smaller, more below the rim superstars and even just stars, like the Kyrie’s, Lillard’s, prime Curry’s, and even the Garland’s and Brunson’s of the world just have a much nastier first step and change of direction.

For how fast and well he seems to move, he does seem to generally lack in explosiveness (both first step and any above-the-rim play). That and his 3 ball are the things holding me back on him. Still love how he maneuvers on the court and cna be a constant source of generating offense. But, if you want to play a lead guard game and you don't have a reliable 3 ball, you better be a damn explosive slasher. He's a capable slasher, but I slightly worry about the lack of explosiveness when the athleticism levels up around him.

[Chi town]

I like Fears a lot, there is a lot to like, and I have only got to catch half a game and some YT clips, but does anyone else feel like he lacks first step/burst? Especially for a player of his stature?

Like he’s sneaky good at navigating screens, he’s overall fast and his step isn’t bad, but to me it also isn’t even close to elite, and his explosiveness in the paint is also a tad sus, at least trying to project it against NBA length, athleticism and timing.

Someone tell me I’m crazy.

And I don’t think he absolutely needs those things to be elite to be a star, nor would him “only” becoming a plus level starter be bad, but I just feel the smaller, more below the rim superstars and even just stars, like the Kyrie’s, Lillard’s, prime Curry’s, and even the Garland’s and Brunson’s of the world just have a much nastier first step and change of direction.

For how fast and well he seems to move, he does seem to generally lack in explosiveness (both first step and any above-the-rim play). That and his 3 ball are the things holding me back on him. Still love how he maneuvers on the court and cna be a constant source of generating offense. But, if you want to play a lead guard game and you don't have a reliable 3 ball, you better be a damn explosive slasher. He's a capable slasher, but I slightly worry about the lack of explosiveness when the athleticism levels up around him.

This is why I have VJ over him. Above the rim explosiveness and that 3 ball. I think VJ has a higher ceiling due to athleticism. Hes also a much better defender. VJ gets a handle and he becomes a special player even at his size.

[vincecarter4pres]

I like Fears a lot, there is a lot to like, and I have only got to catch half a game and some YT clips, but does anyone else feel like he lacks first step/burst? Especially for a player of his stature?

Like he’s sneaky good at navigating screens, he’s overall fast and his step isn’t bad, but to me it also isn’t even close to elite, and his explosiveness in the paint is also a tad sus, at least trying to project it against NBA length, athleticism and timing.

Someone tell me I’m crazy.

And I don’t think he absolutely needs those things to be elite to be a star, nor would him “only” becoming a plus level starter be bad, but I just feel the smaller, more below the rim superstars and even just stars, like the Kyrie’s, Lillard’s, prime Curry’s, and even the Garland’s and Brunson’s of the world just have a much nastier first step and change of direction.

For how fast and well he seems to move, he does seem to generally lack in explosiveness (both first step and any above-the-rim play). That and his 3 ball are the things holding me back on him. Still love how he maneuvers on the court and cna be a constant source of generating offense. But, if you want to play a lead guard game and you don't have a reliable 3 ball, you better be a damn explosive slasher. He's a capable slasher, but I slightly worry about the lack of explosiveness when the athleticism levels up around him.

This is why I have VJ over him. Above the rim explosiveness and that 3 ball. I think VJ has a higher ceiling due to athleticism. Hes also a much better defender. VJ gets a handle and he becomes a special player even at his size.

I’m struggling to put Fears in the top 10, or any point guard outside Harper and Jakucionis.

[greg4012]

For how fast and well he seems to move, he does seem to generally lack in explosiveness (both first step and any above-the-rim play). That and his 3 ball are the things holding me back on him. Still love how he maneuvers on the court and cna be a constant source of generating offense. But, if you want to play a lead guard game and you don't have a reliable 3 ball, you better be a damn explosive slasher. He's a capable slasher, but I slightly worry about the lack of explosiveness when the athleticism levels up around him.

This is why I have VJ over him. Above the rim explosiveness and that 3 ball. I think VJ has a higher ceiling due to athleticism. Hes also a much better defender. VJ gets a handle and he becomes a special player even at his size.

I’m struggling to put Fears in the top 10, or any point guard outside Harper and Jakucionis.

What if I told you there is a Euro prospect hiding in a lower minute role in the 2nd best national league in the world that can be argued to have similar footing as a PG prospect to Jakucionis?

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