Draftexpress-I guess AJ Price is not a drafteable player as

JonathanG · Post #21 » by **JonathanG** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:38 am

I think all you UConn homers should band together and make your own mock draft that only has UConn players on your board. That would probably be the only way to satisfy you guys.

sipclip · Post #22 » by **sipclip** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:13 am

JonathanG wrote:I think all you UConn homers should band together and make your own mock draft that only has UConn players on your board. That would probably be the only way to satisfy you guys.

It's not their fault that you guys have dropped the ball. Draftexpress used to be an amazing site but it has really dropped off over the last year.

Post #23 » by **PhilipNelsonFan** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:26 am

I had a response typed out, but AJ Price stole my laptop.

jemstar · Post #24 » by **jemstar** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:14 am

JonathanG wrote:I think all you UConn homers should band together and make your own mock draft that only has UConn players on your board. That would probably be the only way to satisfy you guys.

You don't understand how people would be surprised that a player who is a leading candidate for POY in a major conference and leading one of the hottest teams in the country doesn't even get a mention on your site? I've seen college players with lower profiles who play for teams that don't have the national recognition of UConn get multiple write-ups and Price doesn't even get a blurb. Your point about AJ's lackluster play being ingrained in your memory doesn't even really hold up because he's been UConn's most consistent player all season and had very good games of 20+ points on national TV against Memphis and Gonzaga early in the season. If you're letting his play from last season influence your opinion of him, its time to get up to date.

stasher59 · Post #25 » by **stasher59** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:39 pm

JonathanG wrote:I think all you UConn homers should band together and make your own mock draft that only has UConn players on your board. That would probably be the only way to satisfy you guys.

I just used to like going to your site but am dissapointed that your focus is on all these Euro players, many that will never see an NBA arena let alone ride the pine. Yeah I am a huge Uconn fan but my posts are not hyping my guys as the number one pick. I am just a fan who has watches a team with a coach known for putting kids in the league.

Post #26 » by **GYBE** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:56 pm

jemstar wrote:You don't understand how people would be surprised that a player who is a leading candidate for POY...

Why do you Husky fans keep saying this like it's a fact? I've never heard anything about POY for Price outside UConn fans. He's averaging 14.6 points on average percentages. He's in the Top 10 of one statistical category in the Big East (assists, where he's 2nd). His season is not that impressive. If any coach picks him over Harangody, they're drunk or Jim Calhoun.

Post #27 » by **UGA Hayes** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:46 pm

How old is he? I'm pretty wary of players who "figure it out" after being in college for awhile.

stasher59 · Post #28 » by **stasher59** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:48 pm

I myself have not hyped him as POY or named him for any accolades aside from being left off DX's draftboard. Instead of arguing about what awards he is or isnt going to win why not contribute reasons why he is not going to be a first round pick. Its obvious to me that people that respond with attacks of homerism show little knowledge of the players being discussed. The kid doesnt have to score 20 a game to be POY anyhow, have you even seen any of Uconns last 9 wins.

Post #29 » by **GYBE** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:43 pm

stasher59 wrote:I myself have not hyped him as POY or named him for any accolades aside from being left off DX's draftboard. Instead of arguing about what awards he is or isnt going to win why not contribute reasons why he is not going to be a first round pick. Its obvious to me that people that respond with attacks of homerism show little knowledge of the players being discussed. The kid doesnt have to score 20 a game to be POY anyhow, have you even seen any of Uconns last 9 wins.

I've seen a few of their last 9 games, and several of UConn's games this year. I'm a huge Big East fan. I'm really not qualified to give opinions on his draft stock, there are a lot more knowledgeable posters for that. But this is the third or fourth time on RGM I've read about Price for BE POY, and I just think it's ridiculous. He's a very nice player who doesn't make mistakes and runs the team well, but he's not an extraordinary player. I don't think he's been a Top 3 player in the conference, and Harangody is just far and away the favourite (24.5 points a game in conference games).

jemstar · Post #30 » by **jemstar** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:06 pm

GYBE wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Why do you Husky fans keep saying this like it's a fact? I've never heard anything about POY for Price outside UConn fans. He's averaging 14.6 points on average percentages. He's in the Top 10 of one statistical category in the Big East (assists, where he's 2nd). His season is not that impressive. If any coach picks him over Harangody, they're drunk or Jim Calhoun.

It was either Luke Winn or Andy Katz article following the ND-UConn game, they said that the two leading candidates for BE POY were on display that night.

Edit: its in the 2nd paragraph of this article. I would give it to Harangody as well, he has put up monster numbers and nobody thought ND would be this good. But to act as if Price is just any other player in the BE is ridiculous.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/w ... index.html

Post #31 » by **GYBE** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:43 pm

Well, I don't think he's any other player, I would have him in my Top 5. Which is still pretty good in the toughest conference. I just had a problem with the "leading candidate" part I guess. And, I do think he'd make a solid pick at the end of the 1st round for a team needing a floor general.

Griff83 · Post #32 » by **Griff83** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:49 pm

GYBE wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I've seen a few of their last 9 games, and several of UConn's games this year. I'm a huge Big East fan. I'm really not qualified to give opinions on his draft stock, there are a lot more knowledgeable posters for that. But this is the third or fourth time on RGM I've read about Price for BE POY, and I just think it's ridiculous. He's a very nice player who doesn't make mistakes and runs the team well, but he's not an extraordinary player. I don't think he's been a Top 3 player in the conference, and Harangody is just far and away the favourite (24.5 points a game in conference games).

who are the other 2 players?

Post #33 » by **GYBE** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:34 pm

Sam Young and Donte Green probably. Deonte Vaughn and Kentrell Gransberry are up there too. I don't think Price has been noticeably better than any of those guys.

Griff83 · Post #34 » by **Griff83** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:37 pm

GYBE wrote:Sam Young and Donte Green probably. Deonte Vaughn and Kentrell Gransberry are up there too. I don't think Price has been noticeably better than any of those guys.

Donte Green? are you serious?

im not talking about who could "potentially" be the better player, im talking about who's been a top 3 player in the big east this season and theres no way Donte Green has been better then Aj Price.

jemstar · Post #35 » by **jemstar** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:49 pm

GYBE wrote:Sam Young and Donte Green probably. Deonte Vaughn and Kentrell Gransberry are up there too. I don't think Price has been noticeably better than any of those guys.

Gransberry??? USF isn't even making the BE Tournament, I don't care what kind of numbers the kid has put up, he doesn't even belong in the discussion.

Post #36 » by **GYBE** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:39 pm

Donte Green has a great all-around game. He's scoring almost 18 points a game, rebounds well, steals as well as Price, averaging 2 blocks a game. I've been more impressed with him this season.

Gransberry leads the conference in rebounding, and is among the scoring leaders. He's also really effecient with 1.41 PPS. I don't care that his team sucks, he's been great.

Griff83 · Post #37 » by **Griff83** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:41 pm

GYBE wrote:Donte Green has a great all-around game. He's scoring almost 18 points a game, rebounds well, steals as well as Price, averaging 2 blocks a game. I've been more impressed with him this season.
Gransberry leads the conference in rebounding, and is among the scoring leaders. He's also really effecient with 1.41 PPS. I don't care that his team sucks, he's been great.

he's also shooting 41% from the field.

JoeT · Post #38 » by **JoeT** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:13 am

Griff83 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

he's also shooting 41% from the field.

Well, over half of his shots are from behind the arc, where he's shooting 35%. He's actually shooting 49% from two-point range on the year. While neither of these shooting numbers are exceptional, and his TS% of 55% isn't great by college standards either, he's a much more efficient scorer than you'd expect from looking only at the extremely flawed overall FG% stat.

It's also worth noting he's not shooting a 55% TS% by lack of ability. The guy has one of the sweetest strokes among draft prospects, with excellent physical tools to go along with it. He's just way too confident in his shot right now, and he takes a lot of shots from NBA range and pulling up off the dribble that he shouldn't be taking at this stage. That's certainly a problem as well, but given his overall attitude towards the game (he fights hard on the boards and harder on defense than most give him credit for), I don't expect him to be a chucker his whole career.

NYC2BGI · Post #39 » by **NYC2BGI** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:51 pm

jemstar wrote:BRIGGS has a point though. Over the past several weeks, you could make the claim that Price has been the best PG in the country, let alone just the Big East(he's been the best PG in the conference all season). There's been articles on SI and ESPN, and CBB analyst have been pumping him up on TV during UConn's run as one of the best PGs, yet he can't even get a blurb on Draftexpress?? Ty Lawson gets a write up during a week he hasn't even played(I understand the point they were trying to make, but still), yet Price is out there killing folks and running one of the hottest teams in the country and can't even get a weekly top performer nod.

I agree. AJ Price has been one of the best PGs in the NCAA this year. He is easily in the top 3. Another thing is that Conn. is winning unexpectedly. It is all because of Price's leadership and play. If Conn continues to win lots of games, people will be forced to recognize Price's great play.

jemstar · Post #40 » by **jemstar** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:33 pm

GYBE wrote:Donte Green has a great all-around game. He's scoring almost 18 points a game, rebounds well, steals as well as Price, averaging 2 blocks a game. I've been more impressed with him this season.

Gransberry leads the conference in rebounding, and is among the scoring leaders. He's also really effecient with 1.41 PPS. I don't care that his team sucks, he's been great.

And those great numbers don't make him anywhere near a BE POY candidate. I would put Johnny Flynn ahead of Green for POY as well. There's more to being POY of the year than just stats, its pretty much like an MVP award, and if your team is at the bottom of the standings like Gransberry's, he doesn't even deserve a mention. Also, Price is averaging 18pts/game in conference to go along with 6.2 assists. 18pts and 6 assists is worthy of being top 3 in POY voting.