Toughest Perimiter Defender?

Cammo101 · Post #21 » by **Cammo101** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:05 pm

riehldeal wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Your opinion......I have mine and it is that OJ has the physical tools to become a lock down defender in the league and his defensive versatility (PG,SG,SF) is only matched by Weaver IMO

Lots of guys have the tools to be good defenders. Anyone who is athletic and not undersized can be a quality defender. This thread is asking who is a good defender, not who you think one day might be a good defender.

The correct answer is still Marcus Dove and Kyle Weaver.

Downtown · Post #22 » by **Downtown** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:07 pm

Does anyone think Westbrook can play pointguard at the NBA level or is he a shooting guard that can just bring the ball up the floor but not be the floor leader? It would be nice if he had the potential to be a Devin Harris type of player.

JBoogs37 · Post #23 » by **JBoogs37** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:16 pm

OJ Mayo...

JBoogs37 · Post #24 » by **JBoogs37** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:18 pm

And Kyle Weaver

Big_Mac79 · Post #25 » by **Big_Mac79** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:26 pm

I don't think that OJ is even close to Weaver defensively.

JBoogs37 · Post #26 » by **JBoogs37** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:21 pm

Big_Mac79 wrote:I don't think that OJ is even close to Weaver defensively.

Ok...lol

big L · Post #27 » by **big L** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 3:09 am

Collison and Weaver come to mind, but Marcus Dove is supposedly the best defensive player in the country. No offense, though. Is he a D-league guy who will pick up some offense? I have seen zero OK State this year, has he improved from last year?

Cammo101 · Post #28 » by **Cammo101** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 5:26 am

big L wrote:Collison and Weaver come to mind, but Marcus Dove is supposedly the best defensive player in the country. No offense, though. Is he a D-league guy who will pick up some offense? I have seen zero OK State this year, has he improved from last year?

He is not a terrible offensive player, though he will never be a 15 ppg. guy. IMO he has a chance to become a Trevor Ariza/Bruce Bowen type of NBA player, a glue guy who starts for his defense. Guys like this are historically tough to guage though, as every year a great college defender seems to fall through the NBA cracks.

riehldeal · Post #29 » by **riehldeal** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 6:18 am

Cammo101 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Lots of guys have the tools to be good defenders. Anyone who is athletic and not undersized can be a quality defender. This thread is asking who is a good defender, not who you think one day might be a good defender.

The correct answer is still Marcus Dove and Kyle Weaver.

I understood the question thank you....my answer is still OJ Mayo.

riehldeal · Post #30 » by **riehldeal** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 6:20 am

JBoogs37 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Ok...lol

It's pointless, we have tried to educate......they simply restate what the media has been telling them.....ie. weaver off rep and dove off statements made by durant, incapable of actually evaluating

riehldeal · Post #31 » by **riehldeal** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 6:21 am

Big_Mac79 wrote:I don't think that OJ is even close to Weaver defensively.

That's a joke right???

J~Rush · Post #32 » by **J~Rush** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 6:21 am

Mayo.Perimeter btw.

Big_Mac79 · Post #33 » by **Big_Mac79** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 9:49 am

riehldeal wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

That's a joke right???

I'm no comedian. I have had the the privilege of seeing USC vs. WSU live and I was not impressed with OJ. It seemed to me that OJ was on the weaker of the scorers. He never was paired up with Low. Weaver on the other hand is put on the biggest perimeter scoring threat every night. He held a player named Jerryd to 2 points in the first half. Weaver is the shutdown defender. OJ not so much. I think Floyd tends to put him on the weaker scorers to hide his defensive abilities or to make them look stronger.

JBoogs37 · Post #34 » by **JBoogs37** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 3:13 pm

Weavers great no denying that, but considering the minutes OJ plays, along with the scoring and playmaking responsibilities, his perimeter defense is quite impressive and would be even without the previous three considerations.

Plus, forgive me but, there is nothing "weak" about Derrick Rose and Jerryd Bayless, whom Mayo has guarded and guarded well this season. He was helped by the triangle and two with Rose, but he was still able to keep him out of the lane which had a big effect on the game. And it was clear Bayless had trouble with OJ's size and strength and quick hands and athleticism, he's struggled during games when OJ was guarding him. But these are all opinions anyway...

riehldeal · Post #35 » by **riehldeal** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 5:30 pm

Big_Mac79 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I'm no comedian. I have had the the privilege of seeing USC vs. WSU live and I was not impressed with OJ. It seemed to me that OJ was on the weaker of the scorers. He never was paired up with Low. Weaver on the other hand is put on the biggest perimeter scoring threat every night. He held a player named Jerryd to 2 points in the first half. Weaver is the shutdown defender. OJ not so much. I think Floyd tends to put him on the weaker scorers to hide his defensive abilities or to make them look stronger.

I've seen them live too but I am done debating this with you....

sipclip · Post #36 » by **sipclip** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 7:31 pm

OJ Mayo is definitely one of the best perimeter defenders in college basketball. The job that he did on Bayless and Rose this season was amazing and the more impressive part is that he's also putting in a ton of energy on the offensive end.

sonic-ben · Post #37 » by **sonic-ben** » Sat Mar 8, 2008 1:47 pm

comes about where in the draft you pick

offensive talented players go first