DeMarcus Cousins. How good can he get?

EddieJonesFan · Post #21 » by **EddieJonesFan** » Tue Jan 5, 2010 11:34 pm

Physically, he looks kind of like Al Jefferson.

erudite23 · Post #22 » by **erudite23** » Wed Jan 6, 2010 12:15 am

Reminds me of Dampier, personally, and think he's a clone of him from a mental and consistency standpoint. I really think he has the ability to be an elite player, but won't get there because of the mental and emotional shortcomings. Just as talented as Favors, though, imo.

Wade2k6 · Post #23 » by **Wade2k6** » Wed Jan 6, 2010 3:34 am

Does he project as a C or PF in the NBA? Seems much more like a C but might not have the C height. I'd love for him to fall to MIA for one of their 2 first round picks.

ManualRam · Post #24 » by **ManualRam** » Wed Jan 6, 2010 3:49 am

Wade2k6 wrote:Does he project as a C or PF in the NBA? Seems much more like a C but might not have the C height. I'd love for him to fall to MIA for one of their 2 first round picks.

he's a C. he's 6'10-11 but he has tremendous length (7'5 wingspan).

THROWBACK_91 · Post #25 » by **THROWBACK_91** » Wed Jan 6, 2010 7:57 am

This is my final note on the discussion.

At best he can be Amare Stoudemire

At mediocre he can be Brendan Haywood

At worst he can be Sheldon Williams

Anyone agree?

AQuintus · Post #26 » by **AQuintus** » Wed Jan 6, 2010 8:19 am

THROWBACK_91 wrote:This is my final note on the discussion.

At best he can be Amare Stoudemire

He doesn't have the leaping ability to ever be an Amare Stoudemire. I'd say his best case would probably be Zach Randolph.

ponder276 · Post #27 » by **ponder276** » Wed Jan 6, 2010 8:24 am

In high school he showed an outstanding perimiter game for a man of his size, whereas in college he's been much more of a traditional big man. As time goes on I think he'll develop the outside game we saw in HS to the point where it's usable in the NBA, and we'll see a very, very versatile C. He certainly has the potential to be a beast at both ends of the floor, sort of a C version of Lamar Odom (obviously with a worse handle and perimiter game, but he's a C while Lamar is a SF/PF, and for some reason in HS he always reminded me of Odom).

ManualRam · Post #28 » by **ManualRam** » Wed Jan 6, 2010 6:00 pm

ponder276 wrote:In high school he showed an outstanding perimiter game for a man of his size, whereas in college he's been much more of a traditional big man. As time goes on I think he'll develop the outside game we saw in HS to the point where it's usable in the NBA, and we'll see a very, very versatile C. He certainly has the potential to be a beast at both ends of the floor, sort of a C version of Lamar Odom (obviously with a worse handle and perimiter game, but he's a C while Lamar is a SF/PF, and for some reason in HS he always reminded me of Odom).

exactly. people who didnt get a chance to see him in high school dont know what this kid is capable of doing.
honestly, he was one of the most skilled big (i mean BIG, not just those tall SFs) men prospects i've seen in the past 10 yrs. his outlet passes, his ability to start and run a break on his own, his great hands, his ball-handling ability, his high post passing ability, etc. he even showed deft touch from the outside.
people comparing him to dampier and perkins simply dont know anything about his skill-set. he's capable of doing far more than just parking his ass in the paint and mauling.

hard49 · Post #29 » by **hard49** » Wed Jan 6, 2010 6:21 pm

Zach Randolph is spot on IMO. Hopefully, he doesn't go to a team like the TrailGangstas were and make his immaturity become an issue. I think like Randolph, he will have enough redflags in his background that he will be drafted outside the top 10 despite being a top 5 talent.

Potentially huge steal or big bust.

Post #30 » by **HomoSapien** » Fri Jan 8, 2010 9:19 pm

His stats per minutes are insanely good. I'm not sure why people are so down on him.

ManualRam · Post #31 » by **ManualRam** » Fri Jan 8, 2010 10:18 pm

HomoSapien wrote:His stats per minutes are insanely good. I'm not sure why people are so down on him.

probably cuz he's fat, lazy, his work ethic has been criticized and he isnt particularly athletic.

THROWBACK_91 · Post #32 » by **THROWBACK_91** » Sat Jan 9, 2010 4:28 am

AQuintus wrote:
THROWBACK_91 wrote:This is my final note on the discussion.

At best he can be Amare Stoudemire

He doesn't have the leaping ability to ever be an Amare Stoudemire. I'd say his best case would probably be Zach Randolph.

He's better defensivly then Randolph. Or atleast has more potential defensivly than him. Also he doesnt display a ballhog mentality and hes better atheltically. I think he will definetly be better than Zach Randolph if he's given the opportunity through minutes because hes the type of player that has to improveby being on the court. I think he could have off-court issues like Zach though. :lol:

teamjosh04 · Post #33 » by **teamjosh04** » Sat Jan 9, 2010 5:15 am

He doesnt display that ball hog mentality? He has one of the top usage rates in the country! He is always looking to score. He is a better athlete than Randolph though..

ahartleyvu · Post #34 » by **ahartleyvu** » Sat Jan 9, 2010 6:25 am

Cuz is definitely athletic. You obviously haven't watched a whole lot of him. I understand your misinformation though... this kid is HUGE and big guys like that tend to look slow or unathletic. Not the case.

Post #35 » by **HomoSapien** » Sat Jan 9, 2010 4:01 pm

ManualRam wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:His stats per minutes are insanely good. I'm not sure why people are so down on him.

probably cuz he's fat, lazy, his work ethic has been criticized and he isnt particularly athletic.

I don't pretend to know anything about him, but seriously how much better could he be?

DanTown8587 · Post #36 » by **DanTown8587** » Sat Jan 9, 2010 8:23 pm

DeMarcus Cousins has a lot of Andrew Bynum in him. When he is motivated he is as good as anyone. When he isn't, his game looks like a waste. Right now I would say that Cousins is the biggest question mark in the draft. If he projects, he is the clear #2 (possibly #1) guy in this draft. But of the top seven players, I think he has the highest bust potential

ManualRam · Post #37 » by **ManualRam** » Sat Jan 9, 2010 8:46 pm

HomoSapien wrote:
ManualRam wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:His stats per minutes are insanely good. I'm not sure why people are so down on him.

probably cuz he's fat, lazy, his work ethic has been criticized and he isnt particularly athletic.

I don't pretend to know anything about him, but seriously how much better could he be?

if he completely remakes his body and changes his work ethic?
bigger, slower version, less fluid version of chris webber.
im serious, the balls skills that he put on display in HS were pretty remarkable for a guy his size. his assist totals might not indicate his ability to pass out of the post, but he's advanced in that area.

chances of him ever reaching that potential? i'd probably put that around 5%

THROWBACK_91 · Post #38 » by **THROWBACK_91** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:08 am

I agree with a comment recently that said he has a high bust possiblity but he is the most potent player in the draft imo, well maybe a couple are ahead but hes up there.

shangrila · Post #39 » by **shangrila** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:10 am

DanTown8587 wrote:DeMarcus Cousins has a lot of Andrew Bynum in him. When he is motivated he is as good as anyone. When he isn't, his game looks like a waste. Right now I would say that Cousins is the biggest question mark in the draft. If he projects, he is the clear #2 (possibly #1) guy in this draft. But of the top seven players, I think he has the highest bust potential

Over John Wall? I can't see it. Even if he does project.

Piston Pete · Post #40 » by **Piston Pete** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:26 pm

So far this season, he's averaging about 19 minutes, 15 points, 9 rebounds, 2 blocks.....

Better stats than Favors (blocks are about the same), but also in less minutes played....