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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#201 » by Truebiscuit » Tue Jun 5, 2018 9:18 pm

GimmeDat wrote:Apparently he shot poorly in both the Charlotte and Chicago workouts. Combine that with measuring at 6'6 and I think that's enough for teams to take Wendell/Miles/Trae over him.

(not that I'd let a couple of workouts undermine a NCAA career as a stud shooter)


He measured 6'6"??
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#202 » by Stillwater » Tue Jun 5, 2018 9:34 pm

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GimmeDat wrote:Apparently he shot poorly in both the Charlotte and Chicago workouts. Combine that with measuring at 6'6 and I think that's enough for teams to take Wendell/Miles/Trae over him.

(not that I'd let a couple of workouts undermine a NCAA career as a stud shooter)


Interesting. Kind of figured this was the case since he didn't do the combine measurements.

One of the beat reporters said this?

all you have to do is watch him standing next to somebody who did get measured he is at least 6'5" but probably 6'7" .
The ws a little harder to tell, but the measurements in the past had it at 7'1" which wouldn't surprise me given evidence of elite length for a player at his position defensively in college. The only thing I don't get, is why not just do the damn anthro and prove it.
Maybe he is sandbagging the workouts trying to fall to 10...he is from PA but that doesn't explain not shooting well for Charlotte unless is just trying to stay consistently bad
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#203 » by GimmeDat » Tue Jun 5, 2018 10:44 pm

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GimmeDat wrote:Apparently he shot poorly in both the Charlotte and Chicago workouts. Combine that with measuring at 6'6 and I think that's enough for teams to take Wendell/Miles/Trae over him.

(not that I'd let a couple of workouts undermine a NCAA career as a stud shooter)


He measured 6'6"??


Someone said that on the Bulls board, at least, though I think he didn't officially measure. Take it with a grain of salt. Length and impact still worthy of the 3 spot regardless imo.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#204 » by LordCovington33 » Tue Jun 5, 2018 10:54 pm

GimmeDat wrote:Apparently he shot poorly in both the Charlotte and Chicago workouts. Combine that with measuring at 6'6 and I think that's enough for teams to take Wendell/Miles/Trae over him.

(not that I'd let a couple of workouts undermine a NCAA career as a stud shooter)

I hope he falls to us.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#205 » by PLO » Wed Jun 6, 2018 1:08 am

Fischella wrote:Mikal probably will have issues creating his own shot at the next level, but saying that he can't it's unfair to him, he has been good at it this year, playing in favorable conditions, but still


I don't think its unfair to him at all: he can't create his own shot in college. We know that, everyone knows that. That's alright though, if in the NBA a. he can shoot enough and defend well enough to earn the tag "3 and D" and b. he's not picked too high, ie overvalued to such an extent where you overlook better talents and pick him something like top 8 in the draft.

Just on point a. defensively he'll be at least a good team defender, but he's also light and he's also not a lockdown guy. Also, given the setpoint of his shot is on the far left overhead for him can you really trust his mechanics? Admittedly basically everything else is OK, but this at least shows his outcome in the NBA in terms of shooting is uncertain. And if its uncertain and if he's a brick merchant from 3 what really is the value of a player with his skillset? I would suggest a long long way from top 8 overall.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#206 » by Arsenal » Wed Jun 6, 2018 1:50 am

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Fischella wrote:Mikal probably will have issues creating his own shot at the next level, but saying that he can't it's unfair to him, he has been good at it this year, playing in favorable conditions, but still


I don't think its unfair to him at all: he can't create his own shot in college. We know that, everyone knows that. That's alright though, if in the NBA a. he can shoot enough and defend well enough to earn the tag "3 and D" and b. he's not picked too high, ie overvalued to such an extent where you overlook better talents and pick him something like top 8 in the draft.

Just on point a. defensively he'll be at least a good team defender, but he's also light and he's also not a lockdown guy. Also, given the setpoint of his shot is on the far left overhead for him can you really trust his mechanics? Admittedly basically everything else is OK, but this at least shows his outcome in the NBA in terms of shooting is uncertain. And if its uncertain and if he's a brick merchant from 3 what really is the value of a player with his skillset? I would suggest a long long way from top 8 overall.


There are legitimate reasons to be skeptical of Mikal, but it's too far to question his shooting like this. He'll at least be a good shooter. We'll see if he can be great. However, there is virtually no chance he is a "brick merchant from 3".
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Post#207 » by EvanZ » Wed Jun 6, 2018 2:50 am

Do people think Mikal will actually be a shot creator? There's almost 0% chance of that. His ball-handling is pretty much non-existent. This is not the next Kawhi guys.
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Post#208 » by Lwcasu » Wed Jun 6, 2018 3:44 am

EvanZ wrote:Do people think Mikal will actually be a shot creator? There's almost 0% chance of that. His ball-handling is pretty much non-existent. This is not the next Kawhi guys.


Yeah I don't want him. Could be the next Wesley Johnson.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#209 » by septahex » Wed Jun 6, 2018 4:07 am

Accurate downside comp.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#210 » by PLO » Wed Jun 6, 2018 4:59 am

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PLO wrote:
Fischella wrote:Mikal probably will have issues creating his own shot at the next level, but saying that he can't it's unfair to him, he has been good at it this year, playing in favorable conditions, but still


I don't think its unfair to him at all: he can't create his own shot in college. We know that, everyone knows that. That's alright though, if in the NBA a. he can shoot enough and defend well enough to earn the tag "3 and D" and b. he's not picked too high, ie overvalued to such an extent where you overlook better talents and pick him something like top 8 in the draft.

Just on point a. defensively he'll be at least a good team defender, but he's also light and he's also not a lockdown guy. Also, given the setpoint of his shot is on the far left overhead for him can you really trust his mechanics? Admittedly basically everything else is OK, but this at least shows his outcome in the NBA in terms of shooting is uncertain. And if its uncertain and if he's a brick merchant from 3 what really is the value of a player with his skillset? I would suggest a long long way from top 8 overall.


There are legitimate reasons to be skeptical of Mikal, but it's too far to question his shooting like this. He'll at least be a good shooter. We'll see if he can be great. However, there is virtually no chance he is a "brick merchant from 3".


Perhaps "brick merchant from 3" is misleading, and likely a little inflammatory for the die-hard pro-Mikal posters here, so I retract that.

I'm not saying Mikal will be Lonzo Ball, what I'm saying is there's a big difference between a guy who is shooting 40% plus from distance and someone shooting 34%, ESPECIALLY when that guy has no other means to create offense and he's being talked about as a top 8 pick. That's what I mean, like if you draft this guy and he only shoots 34%, is 22 years of age by the time the new season starts, that means you've picked him way too high.
LakersDynasty14 wrote:Lonzo Ball is literally on a Hall of Fame trajectory at this point. This thread is so full of fail.


shakes0 wrote:I hope they put Simmons on Trae. He'll foul him out by the 3rd quarter. plus Simmons can't stay in front of Trae. No one can.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#211 » by gaspar » Wed Jun 6, 2018 6:24 am

Lwcasu wrote:
EvanZ wrote:Do people think Mikal will actually be a shot creator? There's almost 0% chance of that. His ball-handling is pretty much non-existent. This is not the next Kawhi guys.


Yeah I don't want him. Could be the next Wesley Johnson.

Yup, his ball-handling and vision is on Wesley Johnson's level. If his shooting translates the same way Wes' did, it could get really ugly.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#212 » by No-Man » Wed Jun 6, 2018 10:11 am

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Fischella wrote:Mikal probably will have issues creating his own shot at the next level, but saying that he can't it's unfair to him, he has been good at it this year, playing in favorable conditions, but still


I don't think its unfair to him at all: he can't create his own shot in college. We know that, everyone knows that. That's alright though, if in the NBA a. he can shoot enough and defend well enough to earn the tag "3 and D" and b. he's not picked too high, ie overvalued to such an extent where you overlook better talents and pick him something like top 8 in the draft.

Just on point a. defensively he'll be at least a good team defender, but he's also light and he's also not a lockdown guy. Also, given the setpoint of his shot is on the far left overhead for him can you really trust his mechanics? Admittedly basically everything else is OK, but this at least shows his outcome in the NBA in terms of shooting is uncertain. And if its uncertain and if he's a brick merchant from 3 what really is the value of a player with his skillset? I would suggest a long long way from top 8 overall.

I am pretty sold on his shot and like I said this year he has shown more in terms of going from his handle to the pull-up, it probably won't be a go-to weapon but he can do it at times
also his setpoint is an asset, it's similar to Durant in that it's so high up that's hard to challenge, to another degree ofc but you get the idea
in terms of top8, maybe, maybe not, really, there are 7 guys I'd certainly draft ahead of him, but after that it's an open game and I don't really know if the differences between him, Walker, Zhaire, WCJ, Shai, Robert Williams, etc are that massive either way, he is clearly a tier 4 guy for me, but that tier is big and starts at 8, so him going that high wouldn't be a big deal imo.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#213 » by No-Man » Wed Jun 6, 2018 10:14 am

septahex wrote:Accurate downside comp.

not really, Wes is a different type of athlete, who also thrived playing the 4, and had only one season of productivity while been much older and not even close to the same type of shooter

Mikal might be Kent Bazemore if you want a downside comp, or something along those lines, which would be disappointing but I think his floor is pretty high

He can also be Shane Battier, who was awesome and would've been much better today, you are not getting an All Star out of him most likely, but to be honest, I am not sure any other dude in his range has that upside, and I am def going to grab a guy I can build with over a big to build around that isn't good enough to warrant that.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#214 » by Monix » Wed Jun 6, 2018 12:47 pm

+1

I like the Battier comp
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Post#215 » by yosemiteben » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:43 pm

GimmeDat wrote:Apparently he shot poorly in both the Charlotte and Chicago workouts.

Curious where you heard that. We haven't heard anything from CLT sources or from anywhere else about our workouts.
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Post#216 » by GimmeDat » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:46 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:Apparently he shot poorly in both the Charlotte and Chicago workouts.

Curious where you heard that. We haven't heard anything from CLT sources or from anywhere else about our workouts.

Can't remember where I saw it at this point, but wherever it was I'd take it with a grain of salt. Mikal's about as proven a shooter as it gets.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#217 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:00 pm

Fischella wrote:
septahex wrote:Accurate downside comp.

not really, Wes is a different type of athlete, who also thrived playing the 4, and had only one season of productivity while been much older and not even close to the same type of shooter

Mikal might be Kent Bazemore if you want a downside comp, or something along those lines, which would be disappointing but I think his floor is pretty high

He can also be Shane Battier, who was awesome and would've been much better today, you are not getting an All Star out of him most likely, but to be honest, I am not sure any other dude in his range has that upside, and I am def going to grab a guy I can build with over a big to build around that isn't good enough to warrant that.


When you say “his range”, where do you have him on your big board?
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#218 » by No-Man » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:28 pm

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Fischella wrote:
septahex wrote:Accurate downside comp.

not really, Wes is a different type of athlete, who also thrived playing the 4, and had only one season of productivity while been much older and not even close to the same type of shooter

Mikal might be Kent Bazemore if you want a downside comp, or something along those lines, which would be disappointing but I think his floor is pretty high

He can also be Shane Battier, who was awesome and would've been much better today, you are not getting an All Star out of him most likely, but to be honest, I am not sure any other dude in his range has that upside, and I am def going to grab a guy I can build with over a big to build around that isn't good enough to warrant that.


When you say “his range”, where do you have him on your big board?

Anywhere from 8 to like 13 or so, he is outside of the top3 tiers, but tier 4 is just massive for me
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#219 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:35 pm

Fischella wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Fischella wrote:not really, Wes is a different type of athlete, who also thrived playing the 4, and had only one season of productivity while been much older and not even close to the same type of shooter

Mikal might be Kent Bazemore if you want a downside comp, or something along those lines, which would be disappointing but I think his floor is pretty high

He can also be Shane Battier, who was awesome and would've been much better today, you are not getting an All Star out of him most likely, but to be honest, I am not sure any other dude in his range has that upside, and I am def going to grab a guy I can build with over a big to build around that isn't good enough to warrant that.


When you say “his range”, where do you have him on your big board?

Anywhere from 8 to like 13 or so, he is outside of the top3 tiers, but tier 4 is just massive for me


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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#220 » by SeattleJazzFan » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:52 pm

Best comp is Klay. Mikal is actually a better shooter coming out of college, but that's his role. knock down shooter who can defend multiple positions.

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