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Post#201 » by SelfishPlayer » Sun May 22, 2022 11:11 am

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You're stating a fact (Eason came off the bench), and then inferring information from it, that you haven't proven and can't show.

Unless you're saying that every single one of the best players on others teams is a starter, we cannot know how much coming off the bench impacted his competition. It's a silly point to make.
Eason is LSU's best player, and he came off the bench. This point alone should illustrate why you cant deduce the level of competition each individual player faced based on whether they started the game on the court or on the bench.

Again, if If you want to argue their per 100 poss/per 40 mins are slightly inflated by playing less minutes overall than some other players on this list, and that they might not be able to keep that pace/rate with increased minutes, I can understand that position.


That means nothing, he went against 2nd units frequently just like other reserves on all levels of basketball.


Do you honestly not understand the problem with your position? Or you just aren't willing to admit it's wrong?

I'll put it more simply

Your argument is this:
All bench Players= inferior to starters

Tari Eason is the best player on LSU, and came off the bench. Therefore, you cannot say that just because someone comes off the bench, they are inferior competition.

I'm still waiting for you to show any stats/data, I'll take anything at this point, that shows Eason benefitted from playing against "bench units", whatever that actually means, given most teams run 7 man rotations for most of the game.


Someone? No there are multiple reserves, and they collectively are inferior to starting units.
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Re: Tari Eason 

Post#202 » by K_chile22 » Sun May 22, 2022 3:24 pm

All I'm going to say here is I like Tari but people are overcorrecting on what once was a market inefficiency on 3&D wings
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Post#203 » by cupcakesnake » Sun May 22, 2022 6:39 pm

K_chile22 wrote:All I'm going to say here is I like Tari but people are overcorrecting on what once was a market inefficiency on 3&D wings


I agree but I don't see Eason as an example of this. He's a big athletic slasher and his shot isn't proven at all. I think I see the 3&D enthusiasm more in guys like Mathurin, Ochai Abaji. Not saying those guys aren't good, just that they more fit the archetype you're talking about.
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Post#204 » by EMG518 » Sun May 22, 2022 8:18 pm

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K_chile22 wrote:All I'm going to say here is I like Tari but people are overcorrecting on what once was a market inefficiency on 3&D wings


I agree but I don't see Eason as an example of this. He's a big athletic slasher and his shot isn't proven at all. I think I see the 3&D enthusiasm more in guys like Mathurin, Ochai Abaji. Not saying those guys aren't good, just that they more fit the archetype you're talking about.


FT% is usually a good indicator and he improved dramatically from freshman to sophomore year on a significant sample size.
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Re: Tari Eason 

Post#205 » by cupcakesnake » Sun May 22, 2022 8:46 pm

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K_chile22 wrote:All I'm going to say here is I like Tari but people are overcorrecting on what once was a market inefficiency on 3&D wings


I agree but I don't see Eason as an example of this. He's a big athletic slasher and his shot isn't proven at all. I think I see the 3&D enthusiasm more in guys like Mathurin, Ochai Abaji. Not saying those guys aren't good, just that they more fit the archetype you're talking about.


FT% is usually a good indicator and he improved dramatically from freshman to sophomore year on a significant sample size.


I'm mostly positive about Eason's potential as a shooter. I think he has good touch, I like his follow-through, and I think he'll be able to speed up his release without having to rebuild his shot. I don't like the dip, and I think he kind of shoots it off to the side. He kind of launches it/pushes it/flings it, especially when he's pulling up.

I was just responding to him being described as a 3&D guy. That's not his role now and don't think it will be in the NBA.
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Re: Tari Eason 

Post#206 » by mg » Sun May 22, 2022 8:56 pm

K_chile22 wrote:All I'm going to say here is I like Tari but people are overcorrecting on what once was a market inefficiency on 3&D wings


I like him too but his lack of playmaking is going to keep him from being a star. In this draft I think it would be fair to rate him very late lottery or just outside of a lottery pick. His shot might be a little funky but I wouldn't call it a huge red flag.

I'll say too that Mark Williams is a better player than some of these wings and totally agree there has been an over correction with 'solid' roleplayers potentially getting drafted higher just because they are wings.
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Re: Tari Eason 

Post#207 » by cupcakesnake » Sun May 22, 2022 9:29 pm

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I like him too but his lack of playmaking is going to keep him from being a star. In this draft I think it would be fair to rate him very late lottery or just outside of a lottery pick. His shot might be a little funky but I wouldn't call it a huge red flag.

I'll say too that Mark Williams is a better player than some of these wings and totally agree there has been an over correction with 'solid' roleplayers potentially getting drafted higher just because they are wings.


I think Eason's best case is Paul George but more geared towards rim attacking than pulling up. There are quite a few scoring stars in the NBA who are meh playmakers. But if Eason doesn't develop a pull up counter, he probably wont be a scoring star. I still like his basement just in that he's a fierce athlete, 6'8" with a 7'2" wingspan.

So many of the "wings" too are 6'5" and I'm confused what people are excited about. Ochai, Malaki, Blake Wesley, Mathurin, Wendell Moore. I see most of these guys pretty high on most mocks and I'm not sure what I'm missing.
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Re: Tari Eason 

Post#208 » by MasterIchiro » Sun May 22, 2022 9:31 pm

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K_chile22 wrote:All I'm going to say here is I like Tari but people are overcorrecting on what once was a market inefficiency on 3&D wings


I like him too but his lack of playmaking is going to keep him from being a star. In this draft I think it would be fair to rate him very late lottery or just outside of a lottery pick. His shot might be a little funky but I wouldn't call it a huge red flag.

I'll say too that Mark Williams is a better player than some of these wings and totally agree there has been an over correction with 'solid' roleplayers potentially getting drafted higher just because they are wings.


I would 100% take him 13 and accept the consequences of what Cavs do at 14, including taking Mark Williams 14 so the Hornets miss him 15. Tari Eason can guard the perimeter and 1-5. You close with players like him where he may be your 5 while Mark Williams is off the court in certain matchups, not every game, but most.
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Post#209 » by tester551 » Sun May 22, 2022 9:43 pm

K_chile22 wrote:All I'm going to say here is I like Tari but people are overcorrecting on what once was a market inefficiency on 3&D wings

I don’t see Eason as a 3&D guy. He’s not going to be a Danny Green, RoCo, or Cam Johnson type players.

Eason is much more of a junk-yard dawg player. If he works out he will be much more disruptive defensively. I think more along the lines of PJ Tucker or Crowder…. With the potential upside of a Buttler, Kahwi, PG13 type.

With his work ethic - I think he makes it to those levels
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Post#210 » by Frichuela » Sun May 22, 2022 10:41 pm

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K_chile22 wrote:All I'm going to say here is I like Tari but people are overcorrecting on what once was a market inefficiency on 3&D wings

I don’t see Eason as a 3&D guy. He’s not going to be a Danny Green, RoCo, or Cam Johnson type players.

Eason is much more of a junk-yard dawg player. If he works out he will be much more disruptive defensively. I think more along the lines of PJ Tucker or Crowder…. With the potential upside of a Buttler, Kahwi, PG13 type.

With his work ethic - I think he makes it to those levels[/quote]

Not a sure thing by any stretch but I think he has a chance given his proven ability to improve his game (e.g. FT shooting).
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Post#211 » by MasterIchiro » Mon May 23, 2022 12:33 am

Admit it guys, you can all picture him terrorizing the open floor off defensive stops with LaMelo, Miles and Kai Jones.
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Post#212 » by SelfishPlayer » Mon May 23, 2022 12:57 am

MasterIchiro wrote:Admit it guys, you can all picture him terrorizing the open floor off defensive stops with LaMelo, Miles and Kai Jones.


He'll most likely already be off the board by the time the Hornets pick.
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Post#213 » by MasterIchiro » Mon May 23, 2022 1:26 am

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MasterIchiro wrote:Admit it guys, you can all picture him terrorizing the open floor off defensive stops with LaMelo, Miles and Kai Jones.


He'll most likely already be off the board by the time the Hornets pick.


Not according to Bleacher Report and Yahoo Sports. Plus, God said so.
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Post#214 » by SelfishPlayer » Mon May 23, 2022 1:32 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
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MasterIchiro wrote:Admit it guys, you can all picture him terrorizing the open floor off defensive stops with LaMelo, Miles and Kai Jones.


He'll most likely already be off the board by the time the Hornets pick.


Not according to Bleacher Report and Yahoo Sports. Plus, God said so.


LOL! I would like to see him there. Fast athletes with versatility are what LaMelo needs to play with.
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Post#215 » by MasterIchiro » Mon May 23, 2022 1:40 am

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He'll most likely already be off the board by the time the Hornets pick.


Not according to Bleacher Report and Yahoo Sports. Plus, God said so.


LOL! I would like to see him there. Fast athletes with versatility are what LaMelo needs to play with.


I think we're already a blast to watch with high flyers like Miles, Kai and Bouk to go with LaMelo. Eason brings it to a whole new level. Eventually LaMelo - Bouknight - Bridges - Eason - Kai Jones could become an historically fun team to watch. Maybe more fun than the glory days of the Splash Brothers.
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Post#216 » by Catchall » Mon May 23, 2022 6:10 am

I'd have no problem taking Eason at #7.
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Post#217 » by rolling_91 » Mon May 23, 2022 8:19 am

Hyper athletic, hyper aggressive 4 with a pretty good handle but no point skills. Has no offensive game except for straight line drives to the rim. And possesses a jumper with a release point right by his ear. Have never seen an NBA player with a release point that low meaning it probably will need to be fixed.

In the meantime he’s a hell of a defender obviously. I think his best role is the small ball big in the mold of Draymond or Bam or someone like Brandon Clarke. I don’t think he can play on the perimeter
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Post#218 » by clyde21 » Mon May 23, 2022 9:34 am

K_chile22 wrote:All I'm going to say here is I like Tari but people are overcorrecting on what once was a market inefficiency on 3&D wings


he's not really being looked at as a '3/D guy', although that might be one of his baseline paths. people always say 'wing sized' but rarely do you see players that truly wing sized like Eason, meaning guys that can legitimately defend 2-4 at least.

it's a simple equation with him: prototypical wing size, plus athletic tools, supremely productive in a high level conference, and plays probably THE premium position in the NBA today. hard not to start considering that in this draft after the big 3.

also I don't think there is an over correction on 3/D guys, it's just pretty much the easiest role to project to the NBA, and people rank these guys highly because they provide an projectable baseline and are pretty valuable players even if they never play above that baseline.
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Post#219 » by MemphisX » Mon May 23, 2022 1:21 pm

clyde21 wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:All I'm going to say here is I like Tari but people are overcorrecting on what once was a market inefficiency on 3&D wings


he's not really being looked at as a '3/D guy', although that might be one of his baseline paths. people always say 'wing sized' but rarely do you see players that truly wing sized like Eason, meaning guys that can legitimately defend 2-4 at least.

it's a simple equation with him: prototypical wing size, plus athletic tools, supremely productive in a high level conference, and plays probably THE premium position in the NBA today. hard not to start considering that in this draft after the big 3.

also I don't think there is an over correction on 3/D guys, it's just pretty much the easiest role to project to the NBA, and people rank these guys highly because they provide an projectable baseline and are pretty valuable players even if they never play above that baseline.



Watching these playoffs, it is not a stretch to see him being able to play some small ball 5 and really turn your team up a notch. He is supposedly one of the strongest players in this draft also which for me is a part of athleticism that people forget. He is one of the many guys in this draft I would not be shocked if they ended up being a top 5 player in this draft after a decade.
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Re: Tari Eason 

Post#220 » by The Moose » Mon May 23, 2022 2:00 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:All I'm going to say here is I like Tari but people are overcorrecting on what once was a market inefficiency on 3&D wings


he's not really being looked at as a '3/D guy', although that might be one of his baseline paths. people always say 'wing sized' but rarely do you see players that truly wing sized like Eason, meaning guys that can legitimately defend 2-4 at least.

it's a simple equation with him: prototypical wing size, plus athletic tools, supremely productive in a high level conference, and plays probably THE premium position in the NBA today. hard not to start considering that in this draft after the big 3.

also I don't think there is an over correction on 3/D guys, it's just pretty much the easiest role to project to the NBA, and people rank these guys highly because they provide an projectable baseline and are pretty valuable players even if they never play above that baseline.



Watching these playoffs, it is not a stretch to see him being able to play some small ball 5 and really turn your team up a notch. He is supposedly one of the strongest players in this draft also which for me is a part of athleticism that people forget. He is one of the many guys in this draft I would not be shocked if they ended up being a top 5 player in this draft after a decade.


he played as a small ball/pseudo 5 at times year for LSU too
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