Kon Knueppel

[JRoy]

I am very down on him as a prospect. I don’t see the CJ comparison at all. CJ has excellent handles. Doubt KK will be able to do anything off the dribble in the nba.

[Braggins]

I don't know how anyone who has seen both of these players move on a basketball court could compare Kon to CJ McCollum... And Klay Thompson was an all-nba defender. Where in the world are these comps coming from.

[ReggiesKnicks]

I am very down on him as a prospect. I don’t see the CJ comparison at all. CJ has excellent handles. Doubt KK will be able to do anything off the dribble in the nba.

No comparison is perfect. Kon is also a better shooter than CJ and has better size.

[ReggiesKnicks]

I don't know how anyone who has seen both of these players move on a basketball court could compare Kon to CJ McCollum... And Klay Thompson was an all-nba defender. Where in the world are these comps coming from.

I was very clear in Kon playing stylistically to Klay in terms of having incredible off-ball gravity, and made a distinct comment about it would come without the defensive piece.

As for C.J., the point is an offensive player who is mediocre at best defensively but is effective both on and off-ball. More offensive juice than Corey Kispert.

[JRoy]

I am very down on him as a prospect. I don’t see the CJ comparison at all. CJ has excellent handles. Doubt KK will be able to do anything off the dribble in the nba.

No comparison is perfect. Kon is also a better shooter than CJ and has better size.

In college maybe.

He will need to be spoon fed open jumpers.

[ReggiesKnicks]

I am very down on him as a prospect. I don’t see the CJ comparison at all. CJ has excellent handles. Doubt KK will be able to do anything off the dribble in the nba.

No comparison is perfect. Kon is also a better shooter than CJ and has better size.

In college maybe.

He will need to be spoon fed open jumpers.

Well that is where we see if Kon hits his upper-echelon or not.

He had a better handle in college than Corey Kispert and others.

Joe Ingles didn't need to be spoon-fed jumpers, and he is even taller with less side-to-side athleticism than Kon.

You could be right, Kon could bust. VJ Edgecombe could also fail to develop on-ball and be Ben McLemore. Or maybe he develops a ton on-ball and turns into pre-injury Victor Oladipo

You clearly can predict the future, though.

[JRoy]

No comparison is perfect. Kon is also a better shooter than CJ and has better size.

In college maybe.

He will need to be spoon fed open jumpers.

Well that is where we see if Kon hits his upper-echelon or not.

He had a better handle in college than Corey Kispert and others.

Joe Ingles didn't need to be spoon-fed jumpers, and he is even taller with less side-to-side athleticism than Kon.

You could be right, Kon could bust. VJ Edgecombe could also fail to develop on-ball and be Ben McLemore. Or maybe he develops a ton on-ball and turns into pre-injury Victor Oladipo

You clearly can predict the future, though.

I really do not like him as a prospect. Of course none of us are right all the time. Will be interesting to see how it shakes out.

I like the little I have seen of Coward.

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[greg4012]

I don't know how anyone who has seen both of these players move on a basketball court could compare Kon to CJ McCollum... And Klay Thompson was an all-nba defender. Where in the world are these comps coming from.

Hopes and dreams mostly. Draft analysis usually takes a sharp dive in quality after the lotto when it gets flooded with people that havent done real HW, don't have process, and exclusively want to will the prospects likely in their team's range to solve every issue and realize every dream they have for their team.

[greg4012]

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Encouraging short shuttle. Worst in class lane agility time. Worst in class 3/4 sprint. Better than expected max vert.

Kon's lane agility time is the worst among non-frontcourt players in this class and bottom 10 among non-frontcourt players that tested in the past 5 years.

He can shuffle side to side well but loses all semblance of athleticism when having to string together multiple athletic moves (hence never seeing his decent max vert in game play at all with only 1 halfcourt dunk on the season)

[greg4012]

I am very down on him as a prospect. I don’t see the CJ comparison at all. CJ has excellent handles. Doubt KK will be able to do anything off the dribble in the nba.

No comparison is perfect. Kon is also a better shooter than CJ and has better size.

Doesn't have better positional size tho. CJ slotting into a SG/PG role and Kon slotting into a SG/SF role.

[greg4012]

I am very down on him as a prospect. I don’t see the CJ comparison at all. CJ has excellent handles. Doubt KK will be able to do anything off the dribble in the nba.

No comparison is perfect. Kon is also a better shooter than CJ and has better size.

In college maybe.

He will need to be spoon fed open jumpers.

I'd bet CJ's pull-up 3 numbers in college clear Kon's by a mile (ties back to big difference in handle and movement skills)

[zero rings]

It always amazes me how many basketball fans, and even so-called draft experts, completely disregard STRENGTH as an aspect of athleticism. Basketball is a contact sport at the end of the day, and being bigger and stronger than your opponent is a huge advantage. This isn't track and field.

Kon is 6'6 and built like a refrigerator. He's the same weight as Luka Doncic was when he was drafted, and like Luka, he has incredible perimeter skills for a guy that size. Kon is less dynamic off the dribble of course, but he's a much better shooter who is elite at attacking close outs. He's got the handle to navigate through traffic in the lane, and with his strength he can move basically anyone but true bigs. This is evidenced by his outstanding 57% shooting on 2's.

I think people are seriously sleeping on his potential as a three-level scorer. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's an efficient 23-5-5 guy in a few years. Think bigger Austin Reaves with a better shot.

[JRoy]

It always amazes me how many basketball fans, and even so-called draft experts, completely disregard STRENGTH as an aspect of athleticism. Basketball is a contact sport at the end of the day, and being bigger and stronger than your opponent is a huge advantage. This isn't track and field.

Kon is 6'6 and built like a refrigerator. He's the same weight as Luka Doncic was when he was drafted, and like Luka, he has incredible perimeter skills for a guy that size. Kon is less dynamic off the dribble of course, but he's a much better shooter who is elite at attacking close outs. He's got the handle to navigate through traffic in the lane, and with his strength he can move basically anyone but true bigs. This is evidenced by his outstanding 57% shooting on 2's.

I think people are seriously sleeping on his potential as a three-level scorer. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's an efficient 23-5-5 guy in a few years. Think bigger Austin Reaves with a better shot.

Dribbling is a perimeter skill and KK isn’t even an average ball handler on the college level.

Sig bet on those stats?

I see him standing in the corner waiting to be spoonfed open shots by better players on offense and being close to unplayable in defense.

[JMAC3]

The handle does suck, everything is straight line drives mainly a right hand dominate player driving and finishing, actually concerning how little he tried to finish with his left hand.

He has no wiggle dribbling, he isn’t good at changing directions or speed, stuff Luka is elite at. Everything with him is below the rim which worked in college as a big guard but in the NBA he is going to be average at best, with below average length and Athleticism.

He also showed no three point shot off the dribble in college which isn’t going to work in the NBA for a guy that isn’t going to blow by anyone. He benefited from an elite team around him in college that gave him a bunch of open space and the best vertical lob threat in the game.

That’s all before you even talk about the defensive limitations.

[JMAC3]

Maybe I’m wrong but I feel like no matter how good the stats look on paper it still matters how it looks on film to me. Maybe none of it matters, maybe he gets to the league and he proves being high iq is more important than handle, athleticism and offensive creativity. Would be a big win for the spreadsheet socialists that believe in BPM and Effective FG% are translatable over physical skillsets.

For example I will buy into Fears handle, burst and creativity no matter what the stats say, there are others that would rather take Kon for the numbers and boring eye test.

[tmorgan]

I can’t believe people still think he’s going to score well in the NBA… and that’s assuming he can get minutes despite getting blown by on the perimeter on defense. He’s slow, can’t dribble, doesn’t have quick twitch feet. He measures out like a 6’6” stretch big. How is that gonna work?

I mean, I was a smart basketball player and could shoot and I am (was) 6’4”. I was an early bloomer and stopped growing at 15. Was a center in kid’s ball, a big forward in junior high, and a normal-sized forward in high school. I was mostly worthless as a high schooler, because I could only guard bigs and was undersized, couldn’t create my own shot, and was an unexceptional athlete. Kon is eighty rungs above me, but he’s going to look like me in high school against real pros. I just don’t see the appeal.

[azcatz11]

If you compare him to Luke Kennard at Duke it’s really no comparison. Kennard was a way better on ball player and is way more fast twitch. Kennard is still very underrated and will hopefully get a legit shot this year

[Jcool0]

I don't know how anyone who has seen both of these players move on a basketball court could compare Kon to CJ McCollum... And Klay Thompson was an all-nba defender. Where in the world are these comps coming from.

Klay Thompson made one 2nd team All Defense in year 8 so lets calm down a little.

[Jcool0]

I can’t believe people still think he’s going to score well in the NBA… and that’s assuming he can get minutes despite getting blown by on the perimeter on defense. He’s slow, can’t dribble, doesn’t have quick twitch feet. He measures out like a 6’6” stretch big. How is that gonna work?

I mean, I was a smart basketball player and could shoot and I am (was) 6’4”. I was an early bloomer and stopped growing at 15. Was a center in kid’s ball, a big forward in junior high, and a normal-sized forward in high school. I was mostly worthless as a high schooler, because I could only guard bigs and was undersized, couldn’t create my own shot, and was an unexceptional athlete. Kon is eighty rungs above me, but he’s going to look like me in high school against real pros. I just don’t see the appeal.

I am sorry you were never good at basketball... What does that have to do with Kon?