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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#2081 » by CptCrunch » Sat May 27, 2023 2:50 am

clyde21 wrote:DWH was the #1 RSCI guy


Lively was at worst tied for first.

ESPN/Rivals/247
Whitehouse: 2, 1, 3
Lively: 1, 3, 2

Scheyer sucked more than senile Coach K this year as a coach.
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Post#2082 » by clyde21 » Sat May 27, 2023 2:53 am

CptCrunch wrote:
clyde21 wrote:DWH was the #1 RSCI guy


Lively was at worst tied for first.

ESPN/Rivals/247
Whitehouse: 2, 1, 3
Lively: 1, 3, 2

Scheyer sucked more than senile Coach K this year as a coach.


final RSCI rankings

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/awards/rsci-recruit-rankings-2022.html

1 Whitehead
2 Lively
3 Nick Smith
4 Flip
5 Dillon Mitchell

and yea, Scheyer had 3 of the top 5 RSCI guys when it was all said and done...brutal
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#2083 » by CptCrunch » Sat May 27, 2023 3:39 am

clyde21 wrote:
CptCrunch wrote:
clyde21 wrote:DWH was the #1 RSCI guy


Lively was at worst tied for first.

ESPN/Rivals/247
Whitehouse: 2, 1, 3
Lively: 1, 3, 2

Scheyer sucked more than senile Coach K this year as a coach.


final RSCI rankings

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/awards/rsci-recruit-rankings-2022.html

1 Whitehead
2 Lively
3 Nick Smith
4 Flip
5 Dillon Mitchell

and yea, Scheyer had 3 of the top 5 RSCI guys when it was all said and done...brutal


That's because On3 ranked Lively 8. On3's track record is suspect with Leonard Miller as their #1 last year
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#2084 » by Jamaaliver » Wed May 31, 2023 2:58 pm

What do you guys think of these rankings/

2023 NBA Draft: Ranking The Top 5 Combo Guards

1. Anthony Black (Arkansas, Freshman)
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Giving Black a set position seems pointless, as he figures to split time handling the ball, moving it as a passer, playing out of spot-ups and cutting. Questions about his self-creation and shooting have had scouts question his lead-guard potential and scoring upside. But we've seen similarly limited jumbo playmakers like Black recently succeed (Scottie Barnes, Josh Giddey, Franz Wagner) using their positional height attacking, finishing, IQ and defensive tools.
2. Kobe Bufkin (Michigan, Sophomore)
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Bufkin will look highly adaptable with his 6'4" size (socks), pick-and-roll savvy, off-ball shot-making and outstanding finishing around the basket. There is room for him to improve in each area, but he's already plenty competent with his passing reads/delivery, pull-up, catch-and-shoot game and touch shots off drives. The fact that he shot 48.9 percent on long two-point jumpers and 84.9 percent from the free-thrown also make it easy to see his 1.3 three-point makes and 35.5 percentage each rise.
3. Keyonte George (Baylor, Freshman)
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George will be viewed as more of a scoring 2-guard than a combo, though certain lineups may value his self-creation and pull-up shooting from the point of attack. Despite an inconsistent freshman season, his shot-making skill/versatility remains highly convincing. And while he'll be valued most for providing scoring firepower and shooting, high-level passing flashes point to some untapped playmaking potential. There will be an early emphasis on improving his shot selection, which should also help raise his efficiency as a finisher.
4. Nick Smith Jr. (Arkansas, Freshman)
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Shot-making versatility and feel for cutting are the draws to Smith's scoring potential. He hasn't shown enough as a playmaker for NBA teams to trust in a lead-guard role, but his potential to connect off pull-ups, floaters, catch-and-shoot threes and movement—and still offer some pick-and-roll passing—should work well from either the starting 2 spot or a sixth-man type role.
5. Brandin Podziemski (Santa Clara, Sophomore)
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One of the draft's most productive players, Podziemski should offer enough shot-making skill, floater touch, passing and rebounding instincts to overcome physical and athletic limitations. Though the lack of burst and length may make it difficult to execute with the same efficiency he did against WCC defenses, it's worth betting on his range, shot-making versatility and playmaking IQ translating to functional/rotational scoring and facilitating.
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Post#2085 » by EvanZ » Wed May 31, 2023 4:57 pm

Don't really understand how Givony has Amari Bailey 30 spots below Bufkin. The gap between them is fairly small in either direction.
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Post#2086 » by BoyzNTheHood » Wed May 31, 2023 5:05 pm

EvanZ wrote:Don't really understand how Givony has Amari Bailey 30 spots below Bufkin. The gap between them is fairly small in either direction.

Keeping with that thought, where does Trey Alexander rank amongst Bufkin and Bailey?
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#2087 » by EvanZ » Wed May 31, 2023 5:14 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
EvanZ wrote:Don't really understand how Givony has Amari Bailey 30 spots below Bufkin. The gap between them is fairly small in either direction.

Keeping with that thought, where does Trey Alexander rank amongst Bufkin and Bailey?


Funny he's not even in the latest mock, while randos like Ben Sheppard and Hunter Tyson are. :lol: I'm not a big Alexander fan though.
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Post#2088 » by BoyzNTheHood » Wed May 31, 2023 5:17 pm

EvanZ wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
EvanZ wrote:Don't really understand how Givony has Amari Bailey 30 spots below Bufkin. The gap between them is fairly small in either direction.

Keeping with that thought, where does Trey Alexander rank amongst Bufkin and Bailey?


Funny he's not even in the latest mock, while randos like Ben Sheppard and Hunter Tyson are. :lol: I'm not a big Alexander fan though.

It’s weird to me that he’s ranked so low on Tankathon. I have him in the same range as Bufkin and Bailey.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#2089 » by CptCrunch » Wed May 31, 2023 5:32 pm

Givony raised a good point today that I haven't thought of. In addition to his non-existing criminal liability, his presumed incoming civil suit liability, Miller is likely going to be asked to testify in the criminal trial itself, and presumably he would need to take the fifth given he could be criminally charged if new evidence arises. This is gonna be a **** for Adam Silvers with a NBA player, murder, gun in the same article. Media is gonna eat this up dragging a celebrity into the fold.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/13wqp3i/_/
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Post#2090 » by clyde21 » Wed May 31, 2023 5:37 pm

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Post#2091 » by jezzerinho » Wed May 31, 2023 5:46 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:Keeping with that thought, where does Trey Alexander rank amongst Bufkin and Bailey?


Funny he's not even in the latest mock, while randos like Ben Sheppard and Hunter Tyson are. :lol: I'm not a big Alexander fan though.

It’s weird to me that he’s ranked so low on Tankathon. I have him in the same range as Bufkin and Bailey.


Alexander's name shows up a lot in draft workout lists. Teams are interested in him.

Ps Who is Justyn Mutts? Great name. Seems to be working out for half the league.
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Post#2092 » by clyde21 » Wed May 31, 2023 6:47 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
EvanZ wrote:Don't really understand how Givony has Amari Bailey 30 spots below Bufkin. The gap between them is fairly small in either direction.

Keeping with that thought, where does Trey Alexander rank amongst Bufkin and Bailey?


looks like he's returning to Creighton anyways

bummer but I get it, this is a strong class and he might get lost in the shuffle.
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Post#2093 » by clyde21 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:26 am

Judah Mintz returning to Syracuse

Chris Livingston and Oscar Tshiebwe staying in the draft
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Post#2094 » by clyde21 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:27 am

Trey Alexander and Daron Holmes also returning
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Post#2095 » by clyde21 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:28 am

Andre Jackson and Adama Sanogo staying in the draft
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Post#2096 » by clyde21 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:28 am

Terrence Shannon Jr and Reece Beekman returning to school
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Post#2097 » by clyde21 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:30 am

Jaylen Clark and Julian Phillips staying in draft
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Post#2098 » by clyde21 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:33 am

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Post#2099 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:41 am

NIL won’t ever have an effect on keeping lotto guys on returning. But we are seeing the effect that it can have on these borderline 1st round guys. A lot of these guys are looking at high 6 figures and maybe 7 figures in NIL if they return.
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