Potential sleepers

No-Man · Post #221 » by **No-Man** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:22 am

doordoor123 wrote:Thomas Bryant is going to be a top 5 pick. He's the youngest guy in the class, has 7'6 wingspan, has improved as a defender, great percentage around the rim, makes free throws, can stretch the ball, can dribble the ball, etc. He has a lot of potential.

Talk about overreaction :lol:

he cant defend a lick and is soft as paper tissue.
He is not going to declare anyway.

cedric76 · Post #222 » by **cedric76** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:06 am

Rabb to Orlando :-)

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doordoor123 · Post #223 » by **doordoor123** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:00 pm

Fischella wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:Thomas Bryant is going to be a top 5 pick. He's the youngest guy in the class, has 7'6 wingspan, has improved as a defender, great percentage around the rim, makes free throws, can stretch the ball, can dribble the ball, etc. He has a lot of potential.

Talk about overreaction he cant defend a lick and is soft as paper tissue.
He is not going to declare anyway.

He's 18 and a half. Doesn't need to be able to defend right now. On the right team he can learn to defend. The tools are there to be elite. He's a raw prospect, but he has more upside than most guys in this draft.

Barnsey · Post #224 » by **Barnsey** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:14 pm

doordoor123 wrote:
Fischella wrote:It is baffling to me that Ivan Rabb is not a lock for everybody to go at least top7

My issues with Rabb are that he doesn't have anything that stands out. He's mature for his age, but I'm also not sure about his frame. And what team needs a post power forward? I in no way think he's a star and my lottery has to be filled with guys who are or can become stars. Or at least be effective enough to be a 6th man. I'm also not sold about his athleticism.

For me the thing that stands out about Rabb is his high skill level. Especially for someone his age.

Also, with his mid-range touch i see no reason why he can't be a legitimate full-time power forward. Post skill is still valuable for times when a big player can take advantage of a guard who switched onto him in a P&R

OrlChamps2030 · Post #225 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:42 pm

Im getting caught up in March madness hype.. but what about Thomas Walkup in the 2nd round? Yea he's old and not an elite athlete but I was impressed by his defensive instincts and he showed an all around offensive game.

Could he a combo guard off the bench?

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Mylie10 · Post #226 » by **Mylie10** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:05 pm

doordoor123 wrote:Thomas Walkup. Hadn't heard about him till the game tonight and looked up his stats. He looks like a douche, but he's actually a good player.

The type of guy that goes undrafted. ....then he ends up as a free agent on the Spurs and in a few years people ask why nobody had this kid on their radar.

The kid has two degrees, so basketball may not be his long term calling.

What I like is that he affects all aspects of the game. Passing, rebounding, shooting, defense. The only bugaboo is his free throw shooting, but who cares when you shoot 45% from 3.

His coach loves him and says he's really smart and funny. Great to be around, and always gives it his all.

The combine will kill him if he goes. He just doesn't have the measurable the scouts drool over. But if Matthew Delevadova can be a productive rotation player, so can this kid. I think he's better than Delly for sure

No-Man · Post #227 » by **No-Man** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:11 pm

Walkup is a 6'4 point-forward that can't shoot from 3, I dont really see it, no way he gets invited to the combine lol

doordoor123 · Post #228 » by **doordoor123** » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:25 am

Fischella wrote:Walkup is a 6'4 point-forward that can't shoot from 3, I dont really see it, no way he gets invited to the combine lol

He's shooting 64% on 2s. That's impressive for a guy that's a 6'4 point-forward.

doordoor123 · Post #229 » by **doordoor123** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:46 pm

I think Isaac Haas is going to be really good. He struggled with less minutes, but I think next season he's going to be a beast.

sweetcity · Post #230 » by **sweetcity** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 5:07 pm

Thomas Bryant is nowhere near NBA ready. If he declares I think he's a 2nd rounder.

DubCeeSwag · Post #231 » by **DubCeeSwag** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:37 pm

Thomas Bryant is most likely gone, unless the scouts deem him too un-athletic which could happen - he produced enough per minute to be considered though.

doordoor123 · Post #232 » by **doordoor123** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:34 am

sweetcity wrote:Thomas Bryant is nowhere near NBA ready. If he declares I think he's a 2nd rounder.

Disagree. He's a lotto pick. Not ready right now, but he has tremendous upside. They also said Myles Turner was nowhere near ready... I think Bryant is a Kelly Oubre pick -- underrated, but definitely won't be ready right away. He's the youngest of the class and still has great length. So much potential there.

ChicagoMICda59 · Post #233 » by **ChicagoMICda59** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:13 am

Who's watched Josh Hart a fair amount? I like the guy, doesnt seem like a superstar but a really solid 2 perhaps. Anyone have some further insight? I don't see him on any draft boards, maybe I'm missing something.

doordoor123 · Post #234 » by **doordoor123** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:48 am

ChicagoMICda59 wrote:Who's watched Josh Hart a fair amount? I like the guy, doesnt seem like a superstar but a really solid 2 perhaps. Anyone have some further insight? I don't see him on any draft boards, maybe I'm missing something.

Scouts seem to love him, but I don't see it. Average defender (capitalizes on mistakes and gets a lot of 50/50 balls), below average vert, below average size, and average speed. He's also not that skilled. He just knows how to play basketball. I see him as a roleplayer in the NBA.

Zombiesonics · Post #235 » by **Zombiesonics** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:39 am

Deandre bembry is the sleeper being looked over . 6'6 elite athlete with fantastic vision. Watch out

ChicagoMICda59 · Post #236 » by **ChicagoMICda59** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:07 pm

doordoor123 wrote:
ChicagoMICda59 wrote:Who's watched Josh Hart a fair amount? I like the guy, doesnt seem like a superstar but a really solid 2 perhaps. Anyone have some further insight? I don't see him on any draft boards, maybe I'm missing something.

Scouts seem to love him, but I don't see it. Average defender (capitalizes on mistakes and gets a lot of 50/50 balls), below average vert, below average size, and average speed. He's also not that skilled. He just knows how to play basketball. I see him as a roleplayer in the NBA.

Ok thanks for the color!

TraBuch · Post #237 » by **TraBuch** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:57 pm

Not that it really matters, but Thomas Bryant isn't the youngest guy in this class

Kalela · Post #238 » by **Kalela** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:25 am

DubCeeSwag wrote:Thomas Bryant is most likely gone, unless the scouts deem him too un-athletic which could happen - he produced enough per minute to be considered though.

He doesn't appear to be that un-athletic to be honest. The Miles Turner comparison makes sense to me.

Ell Curry · Post #239 » by **Ell Curry** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:52 am

Chris Boucher on Oregon got another year of eligibility, but DX had him only 46th among Seniors. The guy has a decent 3pt stroke, is 6'10, blocks tons of shots and just started playing ball 4 years ago. Showed some heart against Oklahoma, too, I thought. Seems like a guy who could maybe be Channing Frye with more shotblocking. That's a late lottery pick.

sweetcity · Post #240 » by **sweetcity** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:27 am

Myles Turner was SOOOOO much better last year then Thomas Bryant has been this year