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Re: Markelle Fultz 

Post#221 » by jrob23 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:52 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:34-7-3-2-2 today.

I wouldn't draft TJ Leaf ahead of him.

Michael Jordan won 1 playoff game in the NBA before he was 25.


Exactly my point and why I'm alone in my opinion. You'll see him doing this against scrub teams and want to believe he'll be able to do it in the NBA. Steve Alford and his son Brian had/have games like this all the time but neither could play in the NBA. Fultz is a chucker who attacks the basket and gets to the line. He won't be able to do that as successfully at the next level imho. Take that away he's a combo guard with very little else to offer.

Yeah, I take Leaf and many others over Futlz now obviously since I don't think he'll be all that special in the NBA. This is based on what I've seen up to this point. It's still early. Maybe a fire is lit under him and he raises his game defensively and gives me some examples of translatable elite athleticism. But I doubt it because he just isn't that guy
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Post#222 » by reanimator » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:53 pm

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Post#223 » by ppedro123 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:53 pm

kid's got some serious game

even if he never becomes a decent defender, he'll be an offensive machine in the NBA
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Post#224 » by GimmeDat » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:51 am

I'm not too concerned about his defense either. He's super long and reasonably athletic.. give it a few years and he should be at least an average NBA defender. Foot speed perhaps a bit too slow for smaller PG's, but against more sizeable PG's and definitely SG's, he should be fine physically.
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Post#225 » by reanimator » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:03 am

he is an unathletic chucker one-dimensional SG who can't shoot nor defend.......and still far and away my number 1 guy.
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Post#226 » by ppedro123 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:39 am

reanimator wrote:he is an unathletic chucker one-dimensional SG who can't shoot nor defend.......and still far and away my number 1 guy.



really?
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Post#227 » by Marcus » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:58 am

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reanimator wrote:he is an unathletic chucker one-dimensional SG who can't shoot nor defend.......and still far and away my number 1 guy.



really?


He didn't green font it. He's mocking the criticism about Fultz. Reanimator is a huge Fultz guy.
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Post#228 » by Vesper » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:38 pm

Even if his team isn't like Kentucky, it is worrying that Washington suck so much this season.
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Post#229 » by jrob23 » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:45 am

Tonight's game was a perfect example of why I've come to want to pass on him if I'm Danny Ainge. He puts up huge numbers against an atrocious team. Social media blows up over him and the hype machine continues. But upon further review he is a poor FT shooter, he bricks a lot, is not a good man defender and he can be a black hole on offense (see the end of regulation possession). He's basically scoring because he's getting by very bad defenders and there's no help coming over. This is not going to happen in the NBA. I'm telling you, if you take away his drive you take away the only elite thing he does. He's still a special talent but no way he's head and shoulders above the other elite prospects. He's also showing some attitude towards teammates when they screw up which is a lack of leadership. I'm not going to revolt if Ainge drafts him but I'd prefer several other guys
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Post#230 » by peachbucket » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:57 am

jrob23 wrote:Tonight's game was a perfect example of why I've come to want to pass on him if I'm Danny Ainge. He puts up huge numbers against an atrocious team. Social media blows up over him and the hype machine continues. But upon further review he is a poor FT shooter, he bricks a lot, is not a good man defender and he can be a black hole on offense (see the end of regulation possession). He's basically scoring because he's getting by very bad defenders and there's no help coming over. This is not going to happen in the NBA. I'm telling you, if you take away his drive you take away the only elite thing he does. He's still a special talent but no way he's head and shoulders above the other elite prospects. He's also showing some attitude towards teammates when they screw up which is a lack of leadership. I'm not going to revolt if Ainge drafts him but I'd prefer several other guys


I didn't see any of this during the game.
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Post#231 » by reanimator » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:09 pm

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Post#232 » by pantalones » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:13 pm

I hate Washington, think Romar is the worst coach in NCAA, but Fultz was amazing last night; went full Beast Mode. It's a shame to see such a great player on such an awful team.
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Post#233 » by cksdayoff » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:15 pm

Im sounding like a broken record here but the huskies are such ass. They cant defend. They cant rebound. They stand and watch when Fultz has the ball at the top of the key. The team is terribly coached. And people think Fultz is less of a prospect because that mess of a team.

I'm no draft expert and Im just a casual collegeball fan but I can't remember seeing a guard with similar size in college who gets to the rim like Fultz , who finishes on contact like Fultz, who scores on 2-3 defenders like Fultz at the rim. The guy has ridiculous body control when he can split 2 defnders in midair at the rim. And this guy has the potential to be an elite shooter with that form. He has a stepback, a pullup, a floater (that he uses near the baseline as well as in the paint). He's gonna be an efficient scorer at the next level.
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Re: Markelle Fultz 

Post#234 » by Ruzious » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:41 pm

reanimator wrote:he is an unathletic chucker one-dimensional SG who can't shoot nor defend.......and still far and away my number 1 guy.

When folks use sarcasm dry enough to shrivel a cactus, please use green font.

Not that I thought reanimator's post was meant to be sarcastic.
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Post#235 » by Ruzious » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:43 pm

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ppedro123 wrote:
reanimator wrote:he is an unathletic chucker one-dimensional SG who can't shoot nor defend.......and still far and away my number 1 guy.



really?


He didn't green font it. He's mocking the criticism about Fultz. Reanimator is a huge Fultz guy.

Pardons, I didn't notice this post.

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Post#236 » by Vesper » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:14 pm

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Re: Markelle Fultz 

Post#237 » by Kolkmania » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:08 am

jrob23 wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:34-7-3-2-2 today.
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I wouldn't draft TJ Leaf ahead of him.

Michael Jordan won 1 playoff game in the NBA before he was 25.


Exactly my point and why I'm alone in my opinion. You'll see him doing this against scrub teams and want to believe he'll be able to do it in the NBA. Steve Alford and his son Brian had/have games like this all the time but neither could play in the NBA. Fultz is a chucker who attacks the basket and gets to the line. He won't be able to do that as successfully at the next level imho. Take that away he's a combo guard with very little else to offer.

Yeah, I take Leaf and many others over Futlz now obviously since I don't think he'll be all that special in the NBA. This is based on what I've seen up to this point. It's still early. Maybe a fire is lit under him and he raises his game defensively and gives me some examples of translatable elite athleticism. But I doubt it because he just isn't that guy


What is your point exactly? That Michael Jordan was an overrated player and you wouldn't draft him ahead of TJ Leaf?

Yeah, let's just take an elite skill away like that. What would James Harden and DeMar DeRozan be without the ability to drive and get to the line? It's the most efficient shot in the NBA and it's not fair to just neglect that aspect of the game. A better question is if his driving game translates to the NBA, he doesn't look extremely shifty and he regularly opts for the pull-up jumper. However, the paint is often so clogged due to Washington's horrible roster and offensive schemes that I understand this tendency.

Besides his driving game he has plenty to offer imo, he's shooting +40% from three, shows excellent passing vision and flashes of post-up moves. His quickness is my only question mark, think he's more of a SG with playmaking abilities than a PG.
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Post#238 » by Ruzious » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:21 pm

Also something to keep in mind for those down-grading him for quality of opponenent - he's so much better than his teammates that all decent opponenents can focus on stopping him. I remember this happening to Harden in the NCAA Tourmament. His opponent used a box and 1 defense to stop him, and when he couldn't beat that defense by himself, people here said that was proof that he wasn't athletic enough to excell in the NBA.
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Re: Markelle Fultz 

Post#239 » by Westbreezy » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:42 pm

Has anyone made a D'Angelo Russell comparison for Fultz? Might be a little more athletic than Russell but I see a lot of similarities in the smoothness of their games, good 3 point shots, height and length at the PG position, pick and roll games, and vision.
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Re: Markelle Fultz 

Post#240 » by Marcus » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:46 pm

Westbreezy wrote:Has anyone made a D'Angelo Russell comparison for Fultz? Might be a little more athletic than Russell but I see a lot of similarities in the smoothness of their games, good 3 point shots, height and length at the PG position, pick and roll games, and vision.


All throughout the thread.
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