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Post#221 » by No-Man » Sat Jan 5, 2019 11:12 am

Nassir Little is tier III
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Post#222 » by Stillwater » Sat Jan 5, 2019 12:19 pm

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paulbball wrote:Nassir Little is my media overblown prospect of the year. I've seen so many fluff pieces being floated for him.

I don't remember the last time an underperforming freshman who can't even start for his team got this much media attention.


'can't even start' doesn't even mean anything at this point...he plays just as many minutes as Jaren Jackson did for Michigan St. last year.

JJJ: 11pts / 6rbs / 3b in 21 minutes

Little: 11 pts / 4.5rbs in 19 minutes

not saying Little is as good of a prospect as JJJ, but how about we chill and let it play out?

I agree is Cameron Johnson is way ahead of little as a shooter which is exactly what Roy Williams wants and needs however I am critical of Roy not using Nas more in the pf role ,but Roy doesn't go small, the system is sound and if anything Little's being exposed as a shooter and will drop in the draft for teams seeking the type of volume shooting sf that he isn't.Nas is still a top 5 prospect but if it we're based on eye test alone in Roy's system compared to hs tape he would be lucky to go late first unless he starts draining threes and pulling the double teams he keeps getting farther away
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Re: Nassir Little 

Post#223 » by skiz2 » Sat Jan 5, 2019 2:56 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
paulbball wrote:Nassir Little is my media overblown prospect of the year. I've seen so many fluff pieces being floated for him.

I don't remember the last time an underperforming freshman who can't even start for his team got this much media attention.


'can't even start' doesn't even mean anything at this point...he plays just as many minutes as Jaren Jackson did for Michigan St. last year.

JJJ: 11pts / 6rbs / 3b in 21 minutes

Little: 11 pts / 4.5rbs in 19 minutes

not saying Little is as good of a prospect as JJJ, but how about we chill and let it play out?

I agree is Cameron Johnson is way ahead of little as a shooter which is exactly what Roy Williams wants and needs however I am critical of Roy not using Nas more in the pf role ,but Roy doesn't go small, the system is sound and if anything Little's being exposed as a shooter and will drop in the draft for teams seeking the type of volume shooting sf that he isn't.Nas is still a top 5 prospect but if it we're based on eye test alone in Roy's system compared to hs tape he would be lucky to go late first unless he starts draining threes and pulling the double teams he keeps getting farther away


His mechanics are really sound, he sometimes just rushes and is never going to be Kyle Korver from 3.

For Nas the key for him is learning to anticipate doubles and making decisive passes regardless of if he is playing the 3 or 4 at UNC. He has done that affectively against Davidson and Harvard. I thought he looked the most comfortable the entire season the past two games in spite of having higher scoring affairs earlier. He also played locked down D against Harvard often checking their PG. I am hoping those adjustments will be transferable and his success replicated in ACC play. His calling card will be to be a high level role player who can give 12+6 efficiently every game and have an occasional 20 point game when Maye and Johnson aren’t feeling it.

The way Nas has been used is less concerning for me than Roy’s loyalty to Kenny Williams who touched the monstar’s ball and suddenly lost his ability to shoot or play defense. I think Leaky has been providing more than Kenny Williams this season. Leaky is a darkhorse NBA prospect by his junior year by the way. Lot’s of length and talent. I think he can be a taller Theo Pinson.
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Re: Nassir Little 

Post#224 » by Stillwater » Sat Jan 5, 2019 3:45 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
'can't even start' doesn't even mean anything at this point...he plays just as many minutes as Jaren Jackson did for Michigan St. last year.

JJJ: 11pts / 6rbs / 3b in 21 minutes

Little: 11 pts / 4.5rbs in 19 minutes

not saying Little is as good of a prospect as JJJ, but how about we chill and let it play out?

I agree is Cameron Johnson is way ahead of little as a shooter which is exactly what Roy Williams wants and needs however I am critical of Roy not using Nas more in the pf role ,but Roy doesn't go small, the system is sound and if anything Little's being exposed as a shooter and will drop in the draft for teams seeking the type of volume shooting sf that he isn't.Nas is still a top 5 prospect but if it we're based on eye test alone in Roy's system compared to hs tape he would be lucky to go late first unless he starts draining threes and pulling the double teams he keeps getting farther away


His mechanics are really sound, he sometimes just rushes and is never going to be Kyle Korver from 3.

For Nas the key for him is learning to anticipate doubles and making decisive passes regardless of if he is playing the 3 or 4 at UNC. He has done that affectively against Davidson and Harvard. I thought he looked the most comfortable the entire season the past two games in spite of having higher scoring affairs earlier. He also played locked down D against Harvard often checking their PG. I am hoping those adjustments will be transferable and his success replicated in ACC play. His calling card will be to be a high level role player who can give 12+6 efficiently every game and have an occasional 20 point game when Maye and Johnson aren’t feeling it.

The way Nas has been used is less concerning for me than Roy’s loyalty to Kenny Williams who touched the monstar’s ball and suddenly lost his ability to shoot or play defense. I think Leaky has been providing more than Kenny Williams this season. Leaky is a darkhorse NBA prospect by his junior year by the way. Lot’s of length and talent. I think he can be a taller Theo Pinson.

I think Leaky is a return to school earn his starting gig type situation.
Nas is a small ball 4 or a slashing 3 on a team with elite shooters in the back court offensively in the NBA but he can defend 1-3 and only some 4 , so he is kind of in a quandary and his athleticism won't make up for it despite being pretty high.
He would also benefit from being a roster with legit rim protector and Manly isn't getting much pt
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Re: Nassir Little 

Post#225 » by CptCrunch » Sat Jan 5, 2019 3:48 pm

clyde21 wrote:
paulbball wrote:Nassir Little is my media overblown prospect of the year. I've seen so many fluff pieces being floated for him.

I don't remember the last time an underperforming freshman who can't even start for his team got this much media attention.


'can't even start' doesn't even mean anything at this point...he plays just as many minutes as Jaren Jackson did for Michigan St. last year.

JJJ: 11pts / 6rbs / 3b in 21 minutes

Little: 11 pts / 4.5rbs in 19 minutes

not saying Little is as good of a prospect as JJJ, but how about we chill and let it play out?


You realize the JJJ had godly advanced stats right?

Little is merely pedestrian in production in his minutes.

The fear of low minutes biased stats or small sample size was very real for JJJ.
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Post#226 » by skiz2 » Sat Jan 5, 2019 4:00 pm

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skiz2 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:I agree is Cameron Johnson is way ahead of little as a shooter which is exactly what Roy Williams wants and needs however I am critical of Roy not using Nas more in the pf role ,but Roy doesn't go small, the system is sound and if anything Little's being exposed as a shooter and will drop in the draft for teams seeking the type of volume shooting sf that he isn't.Nas is still a top 5 prospect but if it we're based on eye test alone in Roy's system compared to hs tape he would be lucky to go late first unless he starts draining threes and pulling the double teams he keeps getting farther away


His mechanics are really sound, he sometimes just rushes and is never going to be Kyle Korver from 3.

For Nas the key for him is learning to anticipate doubles and making decisive passes regardless of if he is playing the 3 or 4 at UNC. He has done that affectively against Davidson and Harvard. I thought he looked the most comfortable the entire season the past two games in spite of having higher scoring affairs earlier. He also played locked down D against Harvard often checking their PG. I am hoping those adjustments will be transferable and his success replicated in ACC play. His calling card will be to be a high level role player who can give 12+6 efficiently every game and have an occasional 20 point game when Maye and Johnson aren’t feeling it.

The way Nas has been used is less concerning for me than Roy’s loyalty to Kenny Williams who touched the monstar’s ball and suddenly lost his ability to shoot or play defense. I think Leaky has been providing more than Kenny Williams this season. Leaky is a darkhorse NBA prospect by his junior year by the way. Lot’s of length and talent. I think he can be a taller Theo Pinson.

I think Leaky is a return to school earn his starting gig type situation.
Nas is a small ball 4 or a slashing 3 on a team with elite shooters in the back court offensively in the NBA but he can defend 1-3 and only some 4 , so he is kind of in a quandary and his athleticism won't make up for it despite being pretty high.
He would also benefit from being a roster with legit rim protector and Manly isn't getting much pt


I had high hopes for Manley this year. Showed a ton of promise his freshman season. He has looked more or less terrible this year and I was perplexed as to why. Turns out his knee has been bothering him. He will be out against Pitt today after being out against Harvard too. Fischella likes him a lot and I do too. I do think if he can’t get over the injury bug that he is in danger of being a 4 year bench guy. I am super high on Bacot and Sharpe when it comes to fit at UNC.
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Re: Nassir Little 

Post#227 » by skiz2 » Sat Jan 5, 2019 4:04 pm

paulbball wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
paulbball wrote:Nassir Little is my media overblown prospect of the year. I've seen so many fluff pieces being floated for him.

I don't remember the last time an underperforming freshman who can't even start for his team got this much media attention.


'can't even start' doesn't even mean anything at this point...he plays just as many minutes as Jaren Jackson did for Michigan St. last year.

JJJ: 11pts / 6rbs / 3b in 21 minutes

Little: 11 pts / 4.5rbs in 19 minutes

not saying Little is as good of a prospect as JJJ, but how about we chill and let it play out?


You realize the JJJ had godly advanced stats right?

Little is merely pedestrian in production in his minutes.

The fear of low minutes biased stats or small sample size was very real for JJJ.


Nas is not JJJ in advanced stats, but he is not pedestrian either.
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Re: Nassir Little 

Post#228 » by CptCrunch » Sat Jan 5, 2019 4:33 pm

skiz2 wrote:
paulbball wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
'can't even start' doesn't even mean anything at this point...he plays just as many minutes as Jaren Jackson did for Michigan St. last year.

JJJ: 11pts / 6rbs / 3b in 21 minutes

Little: 11 pts / 4.5rbs in 19 minutes

not saying Little is as good of a prospect as JJJ, but how about we chill and let it play out?


You realize the JJJ had godly advanced stats right?

Little is merely pedestrian in production in his minutes.

The fear of low minutes biased stats or small sample size was very real for JJJ.


Nas is not JJJ in advanced stats, but he is not pedestrian either.


He actually is very pedestrian for a NBA draft pick.

His rebounding rate, assist rate, steal rate, block rates are nothing special. His BPM, WS nothing special. (These are all minute adjusted rates or advanced stats)

He has 0 outstanding skills other than his outstanding athleticism that 8/10 NBA SF these days have.

I don't really see anything from this kid and consider him undraftable in the early lotto.

And why do we have a 12 page thread on him? Only Zion and RJ have bigger threads.

Then I read stupid fluff and misleading articles like: https://airalamo.com/2019/01/02/san-antonio-spurs-2019-nba-draft-prospects-nassir-little/

Which makes me believe that is some background forces from UNC, agents or handlers pushing him into the spotlight.
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Re: Nassir Little 

Post#229 » by skiz2 » Sat Jan 5, 2019 4:53 pm

paulbball wrote:
skiz2 wrote:
paulbball wrote:
You realize the JJJ had godly advanced stats right?

Little is merely pedestrian in production in his minutes.

The fear of low minutes biased stats or small sample size was very real for JJJ.


Nas is not JJJ in advanced stats, but he is not pedestrian either.


He actually is very pedestrian for a NBA draft pick.

His rebounding rate, assist rate, steal rate, block rates are nothing special. His BPM, WS nothing special. (These are all minute adjusted rates or advanced stats)

He has 0 outstanding skills other than his outstanding athleticism that 8/10 NBA SF these days have.

I don't really see anything from this kid and consider him undraftable in the early lotto.

And why do we have a 12 page thread on him? Only Zion and RJ have bigger threads.

Then I read stupid fluff and misleading articles like: https://airalamo.com/2019/01/02/san-antonio-spurs-2019-nba-draft-prospects-nassir-little/

Which makes me believe that is some background forces from UNC, agents or handlers pushing him into the spotlight.


Considering the fact there are reporters who point blank ask Nas if Roy is ruining his career, I don’t mind the fluff pieces as somewhat as a defense. No one has asked Marques Bolden the same questions.

UNC’s PR team is horrendous though.
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Re: Nassir Little 

Post#230 » by No-Man » Sat Jan 5, 2019 5:32 pm

Nas Little's OREB%, BLK%, TS%, TOV% and BPM are pretty darn good for a freshman, not elite, but def above average for his age/experience

AST%, FTr, 3PAr, and STL% are pretty pedestrian
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Post#231 » by skiz2 » Sat Jan 5, 2019 7:00 pm

Missed a lot of free throws today, but a really solid showing I thought from Nas. Next game against NCSU will be first chance for Nas to play well against good competition since his abysmal game against UK.
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Post#232 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Sun Jan 6, 2019 4:35 am

18 minutes for Little just isn’t giving the kid a chance to thrive. I hope future OADs make Roy pay for this.
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Post#233 » by clyde21 » Sun Jan 6, 2019 4:46 am

Fischella wrote:Nas Little's OREB%, BLK%, TS%, TOV% and BPM are pretty darn good for a freshman, not elite, but def above average for his age/experience

AST%, FTr, 3PAr, and STL% are pretty pedestrian


yeah, assist rate is troubling. you'd like you wing to be a capable playmaker in today's NBA and Nas hasn't really shown much in this department.

otherwise tho I think people have been way too hard on him. I think he's gonna keep ramping up as the season progresses and we'll continue seeing a better version.
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Re: Nassir Little 

Post#234 » by King Ken » Sun Jan 6, 2019 4:22 pm

paulbball wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
paulbball wrote:Nassir Little is my media overblown prospect of the year. I've seen so many fluff pieces being floated for him.

I don't remember the last time an underperforming freshman who can't even start for his team got this much media attention.


'can't even start' doesn't even mean anything at this point...he plays just as many minutes as Jaren Jackson did for Michigan St. last year.

JJJ: 11pts / 6rbs / 3b in 21 minutes

Little: 11 pts / 4.5rbs in 19 minutes

not saying Little is as good of a prospect as JJJ, but how about we chill and let it play out?


You realize the JJJ had godly advanced stats right?

Little is merely pedestrian in production in his minutes.

The fear of low minutes biased stats or small sample size was very real for JJJ.
JJJ fear was very real. JJJ just had elite tools and he was extremely productive at what he does well. I think if Naz was extremely productive at what he does well even with flaws, we are talking about a top 5 pick. Right now, hes 10-15 in a weaker class. Not good at all

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Post#235 » by The-Power » Sun Jan 6, 2019 6:16 pm

I had JJJ pegged as a tier 1 prospect last year despite some issues in college. Still, he was extremely productive in important areas. Little can still be an intriguing prospect despite not matching JJJ's performances. If nothing else, Little should have a reasonably high floor. Athletic wings with some intriguing scoring and defensive tools and the mindset to accept limited roles definitely have an important role to play in the NBA.
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Post#236 » by No-Man » Sun Jan 6, 2019 6:28 pm

Little's floor if he cuts down his weight is Taurean Prince
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Post#237 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Jan 7, 2019 6:19 pm

^Is Nassir's ceiling then Jaylen Brown?

Or are we still hoping he emerges as Kawhi-lite?
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Post#238 » by shakes0 » Wed Jan 9, 2019 5:51 pm

this guy is so bad he shouldn't even have a thread here. It's insulting to the 100s of college players who are better than this bum. He literally doesn't know how to play basketball. Best evidence of that last night was when he committed an over and back and then rather than grab the ball and get a whistle he just stared at it like it was a live grenade and let the guy on NC state grab it and get a free run at the basket. Even Roy Williams was yelling at him after the play to just pick up the **** ball.

Seriously how can you be a top flight recruit like this and have no clue how to even play the sport you've dedicated your life to?


No way this clown gets drafted in the first round. He should be transferring to a mid major is what he should be doing.
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Re: Nassir Little 

Post#239 » by clyde21 » Wed Jan 9, 2019 9:19 pm

Little PER40: 21/9/2 on 20 PER, 56 TS%, 6 BPM.

there's no reason why he shouldn't be seeing more playing time, especially considering he hasn't even come close to getting his bearings under him, especially this early. dude needs more reps.
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Re: Nassir Little 

Post#240 » by big-shot-ROB » Wed Jan 9, 2019 10:26 pm

For as bad as Jaylen Brown's feel for the game is sometimes, he looks like Tim Duncan next to Little in some games.
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