2024 NBA Draft Thread

[JustBuzzin]

I'm trading out of this draft for young guys or future picks if I'm the Spurs.

Wow that's shocking.

I actually think you guys won this draft. You are picking in the perfect spots. I would see if I could get a star via trade using those picks for assets.

If not I actually like Castle and Knecht for San Antonio as a backcourt.

[BlazersBroncos]

I'm trading out of this draft for young guys or future picks if I'm the Spurs.

Wow that's shocking.

I actually think you guys won this draft. You are picking in the perfect spots. I would see if I could get a star via trade using those picks for assets.

If not I actually like Castle and Knecht for San Antonio as a backcourt.

I think SAS comes out with Castle and Carter. Total Spurs picks IMO.

G - Devin Carter
G - Stephone Castle
F - Devin Vassell
F - Jeremy Sochan
C - Wemby

[JustBuzzin]

I'm trading out of this draft for young guys or future picks if I'm the Spurs.

Wow that's shocking.

I actually think you guys won this draft. You are picking in the perfect spots. I would see if I could get a star via trade using those picks for assets.

If not I actually like Castle and Knecht for San Antonio as a backcourt.

I think SAS comes out with Castle and Carter. Total Spurs picks IMO.

G - Devin Carter
G - Stephone Castle
F - Devin Vassell
F - Jeremy Sochan
C - Wemby

Castle is selling himself as a PG.

I think Knecht would compliment him better because he can shoot it better. Castle can play the defense while Knecht just gets the open shots off the Wemby double.

Castle
Knecht
Cassell
Sochan
Wemby

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Alex Karaban, Mark Sears & Caleb Love returning to respective universities.

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[MemphisX]

NIL doing good work. Going to be some good role players developing because of it.

[Chuck Everett]

If you're not all in, yes, better to stay and make money at your current university. Hopefully, they actually use the advice from NBA front offices to improve their weaknesses.

[Big J]

Drew Timme should have stayed another year. He might have bumped his stock like Edey given this weak ass class.

[Chi town]

I think right now I'm sold on Castle at #4 and Dillingham at #8. Feels like exactly what SA needs - an elite-potential POA defender and a high offensive upside leading guard. I'd be very happy with that outcome

That’s what I would do if I was the Spurs.

I’d take Reed over Rob though. Think Reed is gone at 3 to the Rockets.

[FarBeyondDriven]

After all is said and done, this class took a substantial hit with how many quality kids deciding not to enter. I expect this to be the new normal with NIL. If there's even a doubt they might not be drafted in the 1st round, it behooves them to return. Now add these guys to next year's class and it's easy to see why 2025 is potentially an all-timer

Yang
Mgbako
Ndongo
Watkins
Karaban
Evans Jr.
Boswell
Ivisic
Stojakovic
Bradshaw
Sallis
Foster
Wagner
Mitchell
Nelson
Hawkins
Sears

and many more

[Norm2953]

Wow that's shocking.

I actually think you guys won this draft. You are picking in the perfect spots. I would see if I could get a star via trade using those picks for assets.

If not I actually like Castle and Knecht for San Antonio as a backcourt.

I think SAS comes out with Castle and Carter. Total Spurs picks IMO.

G - Devin Carter
G - Stephone Castle
F - Devin Vassell
F - Jeremy Sochan
C - Wemby

Castle is selling himself as a PG.

I think Knecht would compliment him better because he can shoot it better. Castle can play the defense while Knecht just gets the open shots off the Wemby double.

Castle
Knecht
Cassell
Sochan
Wemby

I'm not convinced either Castle or Carter is a long term PG but Castle should be fine as a POA SG
and a secondary ball handler.

Likely team workouts will decide who the Spurs will pick as their PG. Picking 4,8 gives the Spurs
a great chance at drafting their BC for the foreseeable future

[FarBeyondDriven]

I think SAS comes out with Castle and Carter. Total Spurs picks IMO.

G - Devin Carter
G - Stephone Castle
F - Devin Vassell
F - Jeremy Sochan
C - Wemby

Castle is selling himself as a PG.

I think Knecht would compliment him better because he can shoot it better. Castle can play the defense while Knecht just gets the open shots off the Wemby double.

Castle
Knecht
Cassell
Sochan
Wemby

I'm not convinced either Castle or Carter is a long term PG but Castle should be fine as a POA SG
and a secondary ball handler.

Likely team workouts will decide who the Spurs will pick as their PG. Picking 4,8 gives the Spurs
a great chance at drafting their BC for the foreseeable future

is Vassell not considered their SG? Seems like he is to me. With Sochan at PF and Wemby at C it, small forward and point guard would be their biggest needs. I think Topic/Dillingham at #4 and then Williams/Salaun at #8 makes a lot of sense.

[JMAC3]

Jamir Watkins pulling out with some folks pushing him as a late lottery talent..

[BlazersBroncos]

Jamir Watkins pulling out with some folks pushing him as a late lottery talent..

I thought he could have been a surprise pick in the early 20's. But this is why I have a day job.

[ROballer]

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Yeah. Called it on Karaban.

You don't pass on the chance to get 3x National Championships if you're not sure you'll be a top pick in the draft(see Clingan).
There's a very and I mean very select club who ever did that.

He'll probably be drafted in the same range as a Junior/Senior as he would have been now, as a sophomore.

[Chuck Everett]

Jamir Watkins pulling out with some folks pushing him as a late lottery talent..

I thought he could have been a surprise pick in the early 20's. But this is why I have a day job.

Herb Jones went 35. Aaron Wiggins went 55. Don't sell yourself short because NBA GM's pick worse talent all the time earlier in the draft. Those of us who liked Watkins, watched him play this season.

He's probably returning for a huge guaranteed NIL payday, but there was no doubt in my mind that he could have found a place in somebody's rotation as a rookie. I don't get it, but I'm also not representing/advising him. The possibility also exists that some of his workouts didn't go that well and he wasn't comfortable being a 2nd round pick regardless of how early it was (say 31-40).

[JMAC3]

It is very strange draft to me, because in a draft with so much uncertainty up top it seems like many people are clinging to guys that have profiles that traditionally do not work out. Looking for outliers that profile as exceptions to the rule instead of just leaning into what usually works.

Blind profiles
- 4 yr senior, oversized big with little tape of modern big man skills
- Undersized white pg with mediocre high school ranking
- 23 yr old white juco scorer

Instead of just leaning into the traits that typically workout in terms of youth, measurables, athleticism, high school pedigree...

If you look at the draft people are comparing this to the most,2013 the best picks were the younger guys with the elite tools Giannis, Gobert.

I could be wrong but it feels like Clingan this high has a better chance to be a Zeller, Len, Noel type of guy then a KAT, Lopez guy.
Reed Sheppard profiles closer to a Trey Burke type of player then Curry, Nash etc.

Again, I could be wrong but the guys that feel like are the big hits in this class are the Holland, Cody Williams, Salaun types that got pushed down the board by teams picking these safe upperclassmen and funky player archetypes.

[HadAnEffectHere]

It is very strange draft to me, because in a draft with so much uncertainty up top it seems like many people are clinging to guys that have profiles that traditionally do not work out. Looking for outliers that profile as exceptions to the rule instead of just leaning into what usually works.

Blind profiles
- 4 yr senior, oversized big with little tape of modern big man skills
- Undersized white pg with mediocre high school ranking
- 23 yr old white juco scorer

Instead of just leaning into the traits that typically workout in terms of youth, measurables, athleticism, high school pedigree...

If you look at the draft people are comparing this to the most,2013 the best picks were the younger guys with the elite tools Giannis, Gobert.

I could be wrong but it feels like Clingan this high has a better chance to be a Zeller, Len, Noel type of guy then a KAT, Lopez guy.
Reed Sheppard profiles closer to a Trey Burke type of player then Curry, Nash etc.

Again, I could be wrong but the guys that feel like are the big hits in this class are the Holland, Cody Williams, Salaun types that got pushed down the board by teams picking these safe upperclassmen and funky player archetypes.

The issue is that Holland and Salaun are just good but not great at all athletes and Cody Williams is currently an awful athlete who is 30-50 pounds underweight.

Salaun got 10 blocks in 51 games and shoots 40% on layups... The idea that he's a great athlete is.......... not really accurate at all.

Ron Holland shot significantly worse than Scoot Henderson at the rim in the G League... He's closer to Harrison Barnes as an athlete than Jaylen Brown and he's probably less athletic than Harrison Barnes.

Cody Williams averaged 3 RPGs and almost no blocks or steals.

The major issue for this draft is just there's no athleticism at all outside of Ryan Dunn (who sucks at basketball). Dillingham has the worst tools imaginable, Castle is not very athletic, Risacher is a so-so athlete, Buzelis is not athletic, Collier has some quickness but is tiny and can't jump... Devin Carter is probably the most athletic player in this draft who knows what basketball is, but Carter is probably just Davion Mitchell.

Guys like Jared McCain, Bub Carrington, Rob Dillingham, Kyshawn George, Cody Williams, Tristian Da Silva, and Ja'Kobe Walter enter the NBA as some of the worst athletes in the league right away.

To give a good example of how extremely underwhelming of an athlete Ron Holland is

Half-court shooting percentage at rim in G-League

Ron Holland: 52%
Scoot Henderson: 58%

Scoot was the worst at rim scorer in the NBA last year by a huge margin.

[JMAC3]

It is very strange draft to me, because in a draft with so much uncertainty up top it seems like many people are clinging to guys that have profiles that traditionally do not work out. Looking for outliers that profile as exceptions to the rule instead of just leaning into what usually works.

Blind profiles
- 4 yr senior, oversized big with little tape of modern big man skills
- Undersized white pg with mediocre high school ranking
- 23 yr old white juco scorer

Instead of just leaning into the traits that typically workout in terms of youth, measurables, athleticism, high school pedigree...

If you look at the draft people are comparing this to the most,2013 the best picks were the younger guys with the elite tools Giannis, Gobert.

I could be wrong but it feels like Clingan this high has a better chance to be a Zeller, Len, Noel type of guy then a KAT, Lopez guy.
Reed Sheppard profiles closer to a Trey Burke type of player then Curry, Nash etc.

Again, I could be wrong but the guys that feel like are the big hits in this class are the Holland, Cody Williams, Salaun types that got pushed down the board by teams picking these safe upperclassmen and funky player archetypes.

The issue is that Holland and Salaun are just good but not great at all athletes and Cody Williams is currently an awful athlete who is 30-50 pounds underweight.

Salaun got 10 blocks in 51 games and shoots 40% on layups... The idea that he's a great athlete is.......... not really accurate at all.

Ron Holland shot significantly worse than Scoot Henderson at the rim in the G League... He's closer to Harrison Barnes as an athlete than Jaylen Brown and he's probably less athletic than Harrison Barnes.

Cody Williams averaged 3 RPGs and almost no blocks or steals.

The major issue for this draft is just there's no athleticism at all outside of Ryan Dunn (who sucks at basketball). Dillingham has the worst tools imaginable, Castle is not very athletic, Risacher is a so-so athlete, Buzelis is not athletic, Collier has some quickness but is tiny and can't jump... Devin Carter is probably the most athletic player in this draft who knows what basketball is, but Carter is probably just Davion Mitchell.

Guys like Jared McCain, Bub Carrington, Rob Dillingham, Kyshawn George, Cody Williams, Tristian Da Silva, and Ja'Kobe Walter enter the NBA as some of the worst athletes in the league right away.

To give a good example of how extremely underwhelming of an athlete Ron Holland is

Half-court shooting percentage at rim in G-League

Ron Holland: 52%
Scoot Henderson: 58%

Scoot was the worst at rim scorer in the NBA last year by a huge margin.

We know you think every prospect in this class is destined to be fail.
When all top 20 picks are bad you can throw your parade in the streets and tell us you told us.
but if we get the usual 8-9 starters and 3-4 all stars like most draft classes your firm stance is going to look pretty bad.

[HadAnEffectHere]

Is someone ever going to perform the mental gymnastics to present the argument that Salaun is actually athletic when he averages 0.2 BPG.

When he's constantly in the paint trying for blocks...

Like, he's not very athletic actually.

[JMAC3]

Is someone ever going to perform the mental gymnastics to present the argument that Salaun is actually athletic when he averages 0.2 BPG.

When he's constantly in the paint trying for blocks...

Like, he's not very athletic actually.

I mean you can just watch him play basketball at 6-9 and tell he is athletic. Blake Griffin averaged 0.5 bpg pretty much his entire career, was he not athletic? Per 36 Salaun is at 0.4 bpg.

Again these kids are 18 yrs old, expecting them to be tapped out on being able to get bigger, faster and stronger is nuts.