2018 NBA Draft

Post #241 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Apr 6, 2017 9:25 pm

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Bamba's measurements are beyond ridiculous. Porter has some tiny hands for his size and Duval has massive hands for his size.

Brauer · Post #242 » by **Brauer** » Thu Apr 6, 2017 10:02 pm

Good lord Bamba

DirtyDez · Post #243 » by **DirtyDez** » Thu Apr 6, 2017 10:56 pm

Both Knox and Vanderbilt are 6'9". Also Wendell Carter is a very lean looking 257.

Post #244 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Apr 6, 2017 11:09 pm

DirtyDez wrote:Both Knox and Vanderbilt are 6'9". Also Wendell Carter is a very lean looking 257.

Hes a big boy. But hes definitely has trimmed up over the past few months.

I think he just needs one more growth spurt. I think the 6'10 is a pretty generous measurement for him. But if he can get to say 6'10.5" or 6'11. His measurements start to look pretty similar to Demarcus Cousins. If he can be a 6'11 265 pound kid coming out of Duke, I think his long term potential goes up. He will then have legit size to play the 5 and he moves very well and has good ups for a guy his size as well. Plus hes pretty skilled and is good defender and rebounder. I just think right now hes kind of stuck between the 4/5 position.

Disposable Hero · Post #245 » by **Disposable Hero** » Thu Apr 6, 2017 11:18 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Both Knox and Vanderbilt are 6'9". Also Wendell Carter is a very lean looking 257.

Hes a big boy. But hes definitely has trimmed up over the past few months.

I think he just needs one more growth spurt. I think the 6'10 is a pretty generous measurement for him. But if he can get to say 6'10.5" or 6'11. His measurements start to look pretty similar to Demarcus Cousins. If he can be a 6'11 265 pound kid coming out of Duke, I think his long term potential goes up. He will then have legit size to play the 5 and he moves very well and has good ups for a guy his size as well. Plus hes pretty skilled and is good defender and rebounder. I just think right now hes kind of stuck between the 4/5 position.

Yeah, I don't know about that. Watching the McD game and seeing him side by side to the others and he's every bit 6'10" if not more.

Bamba is a freak. We've been comparing these guys to the upcoming draft class kids but these guys have another year to develop. I can't even imagine how good Bamba can be in a 1, 3, 5 years time. If he busts his butt and puts in the work on his offensive game the sky's the limit. Same goes for Carter like you mentioned, Porter and several others. This class is shaping up to be pretty good. Diallo hasn't been talked about much he's filthy too. Hopefully some of these wings and guards develop and become top prospects too. Absent that, I'm not sure it'll match 2017 for depth.

EvanZ · Post #246 » by **EvanZ** » Fri Apr 7, 2017 12:04 am

Bamba my god. Gobert length.

The-Power · Post #247 » by **The-Power** » Fri Apr 7, 2017 12:25 am

Jaren Jackson Jr. looks like the perfect 4/5 prospect below superstar level. 7'4'' wingspan and 9'1'' standing reach. Good rebounder on both ends, good shot blocker, mobile, solid motor, can initiate the fast break, range out to the 3pt-line, solid touch around the rim and has shown promising signs of taking smaller players in the post and finishing with his off-hand.

Not the combination of expected upside and floor of Porter and Bamba, and not the ceiling of Duval, Sexton, Ayton and Carter. But it would not surprise me at all if he ends up being a top 10 pick and/or top 10 player in his draft class (including international players and sophomores). He's only 17.5 years old as well.

Disposable Hero · Post #248 » by **Disposable Hero** » Fri Apr 7, 2017 3:21 am

The-Power wrote:Jaren Jackson Jr. looks like the perfect 4/5 prospect below superstar level. 7'4'' wingspan and 9'1'' standing reach. Good rebounder on both ends, good shot blocker, mobile, solid motor, can initiate the fast break, range out to the 3pt-line, solid touch around the rim and has shown promising signs of taking smaller players in the post and finishing with his off-hand.

Not the combination of expected upside and floor of Porter and Bamba, and not the ceiling of Duval, Sexton, Ayton and Carter. But it would not surprise me at all if he ends up being a top 10 pick and/or top 10 player in his draft class (including international players and sophomores). He's only 17.5 years old as well.

He reminds me of a taller Cheick Diallo. He's a project but he has some serious upside. Very funky release from deep but he's ambidextrous around the rim and long. I have a feeling he might be a two year guy

doordoor123 · Post #249 » by **doordoor123** » Sat Apr 8, 2017 3:42 am

I'm not saying he's going to be anything like Michael Jordan, but Sexton is the only player since Jordan, Magic, Doctor J and Isiah Thomas that I've seen that looks likes he's having fun when he plays. He looks like he's playing around at the local park and it makes him really fun to watch.

Chuck Everett · Post #250 » by **Chuck Everett** » Sat Apr 8, 2017 4:07 am

Jaren Jackson is also the son of an NBA player. Those guys tend to make the NBA.

EvanZ · Post #251 » by **EvanZ** » Sat Apr 8, 2017 5:49 am

doordoor123 wrote:I'm not saying he's going to be anything like Michael Jordan, but Sexton is the only player since Jordan, Magic, Doctor J and Isiah Thomas that I've seen that looks likes he's having fun when he plays. He looks like he's playing around at the local park and it makes him really fun to watch.

Have you watched a guy named Stephen Curry?

Brauer · Post #252 » by **Brauer** » Sat Apr 8, 2017 7:48 pm

Notes from Nike Hoop summit in Real GM, guy claims Porter would go #1 over Fultz and Ball. Thoughts?

Post #253 » by **Marcus** » Sat Apr 8, 2017 8:00 pm

Brauer wrote:Notes from Nike Hoop summit in Real GM, guy claims Porter would go #1 over Fultz and Ball. Thoughts?

Regardless of how many elite guards are in the league and how tailor made the current game is for smaller guys. The adage of size matters still reins supreme in the league. Especially size with skill. Not to say I agree that Porter is better than either Fultz or Ball but be is bigger and he is skilled and it does factor into the conversation.

Homerclease · Post #254 » by **Homerclease** » Sat Apr 8, 2017 8:09 pm

Marcus wrote:
Brauer wrote:Notes from Nike Hoop summit in Real GM, guy claims Porter would go #1 over Fultz and Ball. Thoughts?

Regardless of how many elite guards are in the league and how tailor made the current game is for smaller guys. The adage of size matters still reins supreme in the league. Especially size with skill. Not to say I agree that Porter is better than either Fultz or Ball but be is bigger and he is skilled and it does factor into the conversation.

This. The future of the league is all bigs. Towns, Embiid, Davis, Porzingis, hell even Giannis is near 7 feet. Simmons is rumored to be 7 feet now as well. To win in the future of this league is going to take an elite big man in the near future and it's the primary reason that Ayton and Bamba are 1-2 in the class for me.

EvanZ · Post #255 » by **EvanZ** » Sat Apr 8, 2017 10:02 pm

I believe Porter would go #1. I also believe Ayton and Bamba would round out the top 3, and Jaren Jackson would probably be top 10, if they were in this Draft. There's a ton of talent and just sheer physical/athletic freakishness going on in this class. It might end up like 2003.

Kolkmania · Post #256 » by **Kolkmania** » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:05 am

Marcus wrote:
Brauer wrote:Notes from Nike Hoop summit in Real GM, guy claims Porter would go #1 over Fultz and Ball. Thoughts?

Regardless of how many elite guards are in the league and how tailor made the current game is for smaller guys. The adage of size matters still reins supreme in the league. Especially size with skill. Not to say I agree that Porter is better than either Fultz or Ball but be is bigger and he is skilled and it does factor into the conversation.

It's the combination of his size AND fluid movements and picture perfect shooting mechanics. We're heading towards an era of positionless basketball and Porter fits right into that style, I would probably place him in the same tier as Fultz if he were eligible today. I think he has a heigher ceiling, but obviously more uncertainty.

I'm kind of in love with the top prospects of the 2018 draft. Bamba is a super intelligent physical freak, who knows what aspects are valued in the modern NBA. Doncic is putting up historical numbers at an Euroleague team and include Porter to that list as well.

I think this year's depth of the freshman class is better, but I prefer the top of the 2018 class.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #257 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:43 pm

For every Gobert theres a Biyombo.

The-Power · Post #258 » by **The-Power** » Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:27 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:For every Gobert theres a Biyombo.

So you say for every star player there is someone who doesn't make it to star-level despite ascribed potential? Yeah, nobody argues that. There is actually more than one role player for every star.

That said, Biyombo isn't as long as Bamba (height, wingspan, standing reach) and doesn't have the same touch on offense (and Bamba has still much more room to grow). Could remain a better rebounder, though. But it's not a good comparison by any means.

EvanZ · Post #259 » by **EvanZ** » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:47 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:For every Gobert theres a Biyombo.

Biyombo wasn't a total bust, and you just named exactly the two longest players in the last decade. Not a bad hit rate for guys with 7'6"+ wingspans.

Dude, Bamba went to freakin Sloan Analytics conference and asked Daryl Morey about PNR defense. He's way ahead of both those Gobert and Biyombo for his age.

DirtyDez · Post #260 » by **DirtyDez** » Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:13 pm

Is there much of a difference between Porter and Tatum?