2020 NBA Draft

[karkinos]

as much as i like this class, these 2020 mocks are out of control as the top 10 are all freshman if not a euro player
pretty sure thats not gonna happen

It's really not out of control. Last year the first 9 picks consisted of Doncic + 8 freshmen, and teams obviously did a solid enough job drafting there with the top 5 picks being the all-rookie 1st team. In 2017, the top 11 picks were freshmen or international. This past draft was more of an anomaly where the freshmen and international classes were both weak.

i'm not saying it hasn't happened before
i'm just saying some of these prospects, no matter how much i like them, will need more than 1 year or will be outclassed by older players

[nolang1]

as much as i like this class, these 2020 mocks are out of control as the top 10 are all freshman if not a euro player
pretty sure thats not gonna happen

It's really not out of control. Last year the first 9 picks consisted of Doncic + 8 freshmen, and teams obviously did a solid enough job drafting there with the top 5 picks being the all-rookie 1st team. In 2017, the top 11 picks were freshmen or international. This past draft was more of an anomaly where the freshmen and international classes were both weak.

i'm not saying it hasn't happened before
i'm just saying some of these prospects, no matter how much i like them, will need more than 1 year or will be outclassed by older players

I'm just saying that whoever you think is going to disappoint, it's much more likely that another freshman or international player will take their place; sure there are sophomores/juniors who have breakout seasons, but there are also a lot of freshmen (Trae Young, Jaxson Hayes, Coby White, Zach Collins just in the last couple seasons as guys who weren't considered one-and-dones going into college who became top-10 picks) who have breakout seasons as well and are drafted higher since they're a year younger and generally have more upside.

Of the 3 experienced college prospects, Hunter was pretty predictable as a top-10 pick ahead of time (I would've taken him before Knox or Sexton if he was in the draft last year), Morant (who's young enough to have been a freshman anyways) was also viewed as a potential lottery pick, and Hachimura was viewed in the 14-18 range all year before being taken as one of the biggest reaches in the draft (by a team that doesn't even have a GM at the moment, no less) at 9.

[clyde21]

seems like a meh bigs class, not that impressed with Wiseman or Carey, Stewart is okay but didn't see anything that pops off the page.

best big so far is Achiuwa to me by a decent margin.

[No-Man]

Best big is Amar Sylla

[clyde21]

Best big is Amar Sylla

haven't seen him, thx.

how does he compare to Goga/Sekou? is he on that level?

[clyde21]

Scottie Lewis is the #1 guy right now, so good

[GimmeDat]

Think my top 3 at this stage is Edwards, Ajdiva and Cole.

I need to see more of Scottie Lewis, love everything I've heard about him so far though.

My very surface level impression of Carey is young Greg Monroe? Not sure how valuable that is in today's game.

Also really like Hampton but I'm skeptical how his value is going to hold overseas (that's nothing against NBL, I just think people feel less sure of their evaluations when judging guys in overseas comps, and I think his production will be a bit of a mixed bag at that level).

[knicksfan974]

The one time I saw Maledon play (against Finnish national team this spring) he did not impress. I thought he most definitely was not NBA-ready, pretty far from it.

Maybe he has been showing more promise in the French league this year, didn't get to follow the games personally.

[crows2]

It's really not out of control. Last year the first 9 picks consisted of Doncic + 8 freshmen, and teams obviously did a solid enough job drafting there with the top 5 picks being the all-rookie 1st team. In 2017, the top 11 picks were freshmen or international. This past draft was more of an anomaly where the freshmen and international classes were both weak.

i'm not saying it hasn't happened before
i'm just saying some of these prospects, no matter how much i like them, will need more than 1 year or will be outclassed by older players

I'm just saying that whoever you think is going to disappoint, it's much more likely that another freshman or international player will take their place; sure there are sophomores/juniors who have breakout seasons, but there are also a lot of freshmen (Trae Young, Jaxson Hayes, Coby White, Zach Collins just in the last couple seasons as guys who weren't considered one-and-dones going into college who became top-10 picks) who have breakout seasons as well and are drafted higher since they're a year younger and generally have more upside.

Of the 3 experienced college prospects, Hunter was pretty predictable as a top-10 pick ahead of time (I would've taken him before Knox or Sexton if he was in the draft last year), Morant (who's young enough to have been a freshman anyways) was also viewed as a potential lottery pick, and Hachimura was viewed in the 14-18 range all year before being taken as one of the biggest reaches in the draft (by a team that doesn't even have a GM at the moment, no less) at 9.

Great post, the only non-Freshmen currently being touted at all for next year’s draft are Agbaji, Dosunmu and maybe Nwora, and Givony only has them as late-first/early-second round picks at the moment.

[No-Man]

I am not a fan of this class, at all, it really might have the worst nº1 in forever, the top end is really poor

Sylla is really similar to Siakam actually, like current Pascal

[LofJ]

So as a Hornet fan that might be looking at a rebuilding season next year should I be excited about this group of players?

From what I've seen I really like Edwards, Anthony, Lewis, and Hampton. I'm not sure about Wiseman, I always want to see bigs go up against better competition on a structured team before I'm sold on them.

[No-Man]

So as a Hornet fan that might be looking at a rebuilding season next year should I be excited about this group of players?

From what I've seen I really like Edwards, Anthony, Lewis, and Hampton. I'm not sure about Wiseman, I always want to see bigs go up against better competition on a structured team before I'm sold on them.

Really not, there is no tier I guy on this class

Wiseman is really meh, I'd have had him with the Jaxson Hayes, Nic Claxton group in this class, so kinda late teens

This class is kinda like 2017, not legit nº1 prospect, but solid depth and some intriguing top guys (Mitchell, Tatum, Fox, Markkanen, Isaac vs Edwards, Hampton, Anthony, Avdija, Wiseman I guess)

[Eskobar13]

Don't forget Queta.

He was looking good this weekend albeit not against great comp. Look forward to see him in the Euros.


Edit: Also Avdija dropped 32 5 5 on Portugal. Overtime game though, think he played like 40 minutes. Still impressive.

[clyde21]

agree with Fischella at this point, no clear #1.

Lewis is the closest to me and is my #1 guy right now, but more in the mold of a 2017 #1 overall guy.

[clyde21]

obviously subject to change, but outside of Lewis, I don't see any other top 10 or 12 wing

not sold on Moore or Whitney, i like Precious but he's more of a combo forward type.

any other wings that could be in that range?

[jman3134]

seems like a meh bigs class, not that impressed with Wiseman or Carey, Stewart is okay but didn't see anything that pops off the page.

best big so far is Achiuwa to me by a decent margin.

That's the strength of this class. So, you must not like it at all. I would agree with you.

Personally, I like Wiseman and his upside. Carey to me is one of the most overrated players, though his value is coming back down to earth. My gut tells me that Duke is a borderline top 20 team next year mainly due to the incoming wings and not Carey and Hurt. Hurt projects as a nice outside shooting weapon, but I don't see any potential as a rim protector. Sub Zion out of this year's Duke team, remove Bolden (super underrated defensively and largely underutilized on O) and you have a below avg defensive team. I won't rule out DeLaurier improving, but as it stands now, I think Duke is one of the most overrated teams in the country atm.

[clyde21]

seems like a meh bigs class, not that impressed with Wiseman or Carey, Stewart is okay but didn't see anything that pops off the page.

best big so far is Achiuwa to me by a decent margin.

That's the strength of this class. So, you must not like it at all. I would agree with you.

Personally, I like Wiseman and his upside. Carey to me is one of the most overrated players, though his value is coming back down to earth. My gut tells me that Duke is a borderline top 20 team next year mainly due to the incoming wings and not Carey and Hurt. Hurt projects as a nice outside shooting weapon, but I don't see any potential as a rim protector. Sub Zion out of this year's Duke team, remove Bolden (super underrated defensively and largely underutilized on O) and you have a below avg defensive team. I won't rule out DeLaurier improving, but as it stands now, I think Duke is one of the most overrated teams in the country atm.

hmm, I don't see how bigs are the strength of the class, seems to be pretty clearly guards - Hampton, Tre, Theo, Anthony, Hayes, Dotson, Ochai, etc.

btw, with Zion I think Tre was Duke's best defender last year, absolutely shut down defender really against other PGs

[jman3134]

Given the relatively recent move away from the traditional big man role, it is pretty rare for 6 of top 15 (using draft.net) projected to be bigs imho. I'm not saying it is 2018, but still - a big part of this class will be Wiseman, Precious, Stewart. I foresee all three going top 10.

Hampton, Edwards, Theo, sure. Ochai, Dotson we are rightfully projecting a big leap for them to warrant top picks. If last year's tape were the final say, they haven't shown they are this level of prospect. I haven't seen anything that separates the guards from previous classes either. Give me RJ, Ja, Garland over anyone in 2020. Of course, the nature of this draft thing is that this can change relatively quickly.

My focus of the previous post was with regards to rim protection, which is far more impactful from an overall defensive standpoint than point guard defense. Whether or not Tre Jones locks it up on the perimeter and generates turnovers, he will still be leading his man to the frontline when beat off the bounce. Carey/Hurt combination is not formidable and will give up a lot of easy baskets next year. This also takes into consideration the fact that when Zion was out, RJ took on a significant scoring role (and they were not a top 10 team). I am assuming Stanley and Hurt can produce these points next year. Defensively, they will take a significant step back, barring improvements by the 'other guys'.

Edit: in terms of how I see this playing out for Tre Jones' NBA prospects since this is the draft board, I think he will fall a bit on draft boards even though he may have actually made improvements to his game. Team success, right or wrong, is extremely impactful for NBA guys in helping them anticipate NBA roles.

[clyde21]

Given the relatively recent move away from the traditional big man role, it is pretty rare for 6 of top 15 (using draft.net) projected to be bigs imho. I'm not saying it is 2018, but still - a big part of this class will be Wiseman, Precious, Stewart. I foresee all three going top 10.

Hampton, Edwards, Theo, sure. Ochai, Dotson we are rightfully projecting a big leap for them to warrant top picks. If last year's tape were the final say, they haven't shown they are this level of prospect. I haven't seen anything that separates the guards from previous classes either. Give me RJ, Ja, Garland over anyone in 2020. Of course, the nature of this draft thing is that this can change relatively quickly.

My focus of the previous post was with regards to rim protection, which is far more impactful from an overall defensive standpoint than point guard defense. Whether or not Tre Jones locks it up on the perimeter and generates turnovers, he will still be leading his man to the frontline when beat off the bounce. Carey/Hurt combination is not formidable and will give up a lot of easy baskets next year. This also takes into consideration the fact that when Zion was out, RJ took on a significant scoring role (and they were not a top 10 team). I am assuming Stanley and Hurt can produce these points next year. Defensively, they will take a significant step back, barring improvements by the 'other guys'.

i still wouldn't say this class is about the bigs -- outside of Wiseman, Stewart and Precious (still haven't seen Sylla) there aren't any bigs worthy of a top 20 selection, and even Precious I'd consider more of a combo forward than a big IMO. Bassey and Jalen Smith are returning so we'll see how they develop but I'm not necessarily holding my breath on either

this class is clearly about the guards: Edwards, Cole, Hampton, LaMelo, Theo, Hayes, Antoine, Ochai, Tre, etc.

but I agree w/ you on Duke, Carey/Hurt front court is pretty bad defensively, also I think losing Cam is gonna hurt on the wings...say what you will about him offensively last year but he was pretty good on D for a lot of the year.

[No-Man]

Do not use nbadraft.net lol