2023 NBA Draft

[babyjax13]

did a little bit of a dive into the 2023 class and it's kinda overrated imo. All I heard was 2022 is weak and 2023 is elite but imho 2023 isn't any better than 2022. It's obviously still early so things can change, it's just my initial thoughts. What will make or break this class is whether some of the slew of wings elevates over the others. Right now I see four special bigs in Wembanyama, Lively, Ware and Bona. Two potential special PGs in Henderson and Bailey then a whole bunch of toolsy wings with high upside but flaws like Whitehead, Whitmore, Jackson, Walker, Mitchell, B. Miller, Phillips, Thompson twins, Black, Smith, George and L. Miller. There's some decent returning upperclassmen too. Maybe a few guys will come out of nowhere and some of these wings will turn out to be special so the class will turn out great. We shall see

Without the benefit of seeing these guys play in their pre-NBA stop I'd pretty easily take Scoot/Victor over the top 6 in 2022, but I'd probably take the top 6 over the next group of players in 2023. But I'm betting someone else blows up and becomes the clear third pick in the draft, my bet is on that being Anthony Black.

[Viper1500]

Honest question, many of us are talking about this draft as very deep and strong but if you took Victor from the top I am struggling to see how it is stronger than this year’s draft.


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[The-Power]

Honest question, many of us are talking about this draft as very deep and strong but if you took Victor from the top I am struggling to see how it is stronger than this year’s draft.

It's too early to tell. It's as simple as that. Look at the HS rankings from the last class. ESPN had Hardy #2, Bates #3 and Baldwin Jr. #5. Meanwhile, three players taken in the top 6 in this draft were Sophomores. A LOT of things will change.

I do like the upcoming class better at this point. But we won't have a solid idea of how the top and the depth compare to last year's class until we've seen them play some more basketball at least (and even then there's still a lot of uncertainty).

[Hal14]

Honest question, many of us are talking about this draft as very deep and strong but if you took Victor from the top I am struggling to see how it is stronger than this year’s draft.


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lol ok. take Zion away and the 2019 class wouldn't look as good either

[Viper1500]

Honest question, many of us are talking about this draft as very deep and strong but if you took Victor from the top I am struggling to see how it is stronger than this year’s draft.


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lol ok. take Zion away and the 2019 class wouldn't look as good either

That’s my point? Reading comprehension at its finest.

I’ll lower the complexity for you. Many of us on RealGM are talking about this as a strong draft class but I am seeing one potential generational player and after that the talent level seems to drop off by a lot.


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[clyde21]

Honest question, many of us are talking about this draft as very deep and strong but if you took Victor from the top I am struggling to see how it is stronger than this year’s draft.


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it's a much better class at both the top and in depth. everything obviously can change when they get to college but today I'd most likely take Scoot and DWH over anyone in the 2022 class even if you remove Wemby.

also, more importantly, 23 has a lot more premium and functional archetypes. lead and PGs are much better, better wing depth, better passers, more versatile/switchable players.

there is no way for example a guy like Murray goes #4 in the 2021 class and I doubt he'd go 4th overall next year either. large part of that was there was a huge drop in talent after the big 3 but a 22 yr old will not go top 5 next year I almost guarantee it.

[Big J]

Honest question, many of us are talking about this draft as very deep and strong but if you took Victor from the top I am struggling to see how it is stronger than this year’s draft.


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it's a much better class at both the top and in depth. everything obviously can change when they get to college but today I'd most likely take Scoot and DWH over anyone in the 2022 class even if you remove Wemby.

also, more importantly, 23 has a lot more premium and functional archetypes. lead and PGs are much better, better wing depth, better passers, more versatile/switchable players.

there is no way for example a guy like Murray goes #4 in the 2021 class and I doubt he'd go 4th overall next year either. large part of that was there was a huge drop in talent after the big 3 but a 22 yr old will not go top 5 next year I almost guarantee it.

He’s 21.

[Hal14]

Honest question, many of us are talking about this draft as very deep and strong but if you took Victor from the top I am struggling to see how it is stronger than this year’s draft.


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it's a much better class at both the top and in depth. everything obviously can change when they get to college but today I'd most likely take Scoot and DWH over anyone in the 2022 class even if you remove Wemby.

also, more importantly, 23 has a lot more premium and functional archetypes. lead and PGs are much better, better wing depth, better passers, more versatile/switchable players.

there is no way for example a guy like Murray goes #4 in the 2021 class and I doubt he'd go 4th overall next year either. large part of that was there was a huge drop in talent after the big 3 but a 22 yr old will not go top 5 next year I almost guarantee it.

He’s 21.

close enough. He'll be 22 when he reports to training camp.

[clyde21]

Honest question, many of us are talking about this draft as very deep and strong but if you took Victor from the top I am struggling to see how it is stronger than this year’s draft.


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it's a much better class at both the top and in depth. everything obviously can change when they get to college but today I'd most likely take Scoot and DWH over anyone in the 2022 class even if you remove Wemby.

also, more importantly, 23 has a lot more premium and functional archetypes. lead and PGs are much better, better wing depth, better passers, more versatile/switchable players.

there is no way for example a guy like Murray goes #4 in the 2021 class and I doubt he'd go 4th overall next year either. large part of that was there was a huge drop in talent after the big 3 but a 22 yr old will not go top 5 next year I almost guarantee it.

He’s 21.

why do you insist on continuously embarrassing yourself?

[yoyoboy]

I’m honestly not nearly as high on Victor as everyone else.

[Big J]

it's a much better class at both the top and in depth. everything obviously can change when they get to college but today I'd most likely take Scoot and DWH over anyone in the 2022 class even if you remove Wemby.

also, more importantly, 23 has a lot more premium and functional archetypes. lead and PGs are much better, better wing depth, better passers, more versatile/switchable players.

there is no way for example a guy like Murray goes #4 in the 2021 class and I doubt he'd go 4th overall next year either. large part of that was there was a huge drop in talent after the big 3 but a 22 yr old will not go top 5 next year I almost guarantee it.

He’s 21.

why do you insist on continuously embarrassing yourself?

I don’t get embarrassed. I’ve got thick skin.

[clyde21]

I’m honestly not nearly as high on Victor as everyone else.

don't buy that he's as generational as a lot of people think, but still #1 at this point.

[yoyoboy]

I’m honestly not nearly as high on Victor as everyone else.

don't buy that he's as generational as a lot of people think, but still #1 at this point.

Scoot’s productivity and sheer ability to impose himself physically against grown men at 17 is really impressive to me. I might have him as my #1 right now.

[Big J]

I’m honestly not nearly as high on Victor as everyone else.

Yea I’m with you. Who cares if he can make a few threes. He’s still going to get exposed in the playoffs every year like Gobert does when teams go small.

[Colbinii]

I’m honestly not nearly as high on Victor as everyone else.

Yea I’m with you. Who cares if he can make a few threes. He’s still going to get exposed in the playoffs every year like Gobert does when teams go small.

Well this is a misunderstanding of why Gobert was exposed.

When you have no good perimeter defenders and your center is the entirety of your defense, it is easy to single out the one strength and attack the defense in other areas.

Gobert on a team with a secondary rim protector [Which the Jazz didn't have] or with adequate perimeter defense [Golden State had both GPII AND Wiggins] and all of a sudden Gobert can't be exposed.

It would be as if LeBron James were out on the court with 4 non-shooters and blaming LeBron for his inability to make his non-shooting teammates make 3's and look at the teams Offensive Rating as your evidence.

But with Webanyaba, you have a player who could match Goberts Impact [Top 10-15, maybe even higher in 2021] but also be a more advanced offensive player. Will he become that? Who knows.

[Colbinii]

I’m honestly not nearly as high on Victor as everyone else.

don't buy that he's as generational as a lot of people think, but still #1 at this point.

Scoot’s productivity and sheer ability to impose himself physically against grown men at 17 is really impressive to me. I might have him as my #1 right now.

Me too. Scoot's ability to control tempo and speed of the game is incredible for a player of his age.

Its Luka-like.

[Duke4life831]

Brought this up a few days back when it was still just internet rumor at the time, looks like all signs are pointing to it happening.

Read on Twitter

Really the only talk is if UNC can create a scholarship spot for this year's team so he would just reclassify and stay with them. But doesnt seem like that is going go happen.

For those that dont know, GG is currently 247's #1 in the 2023 recruiting class. So looks like we can pencil in another high end prospect for this upcomming class. Strong explosive 6'8-6'9 athlete, also is pretty much as young as you can get in today's draft, birthday is middle of December.

[clyde21]

i dont understand why he denied it when the rumors came out, only to admit it a few days later. same crap with Sharpe last year as if everyone and their mom didn't already know he was gonna enter the draft.

that said, GG makes this class even stronger. if Buzelis reclasses too it'll be insane.

[Duke4life831]

i dont understand why he denied it when the rumors came out, only to admit it a few days later. same crap with Sharpe last year as if everyone and their mom didn't already know he was gonna enter the draft.

that said, GG makes this class even stronger. if Buzelis reclasses too it'll be insane.

Ya the rumors really picked up when it came out that he had actually already done the paperwork with SC to make sure he would be eligible to play this year. Like dude, if youre already at the point just admit it and say you had a change of heart. No one would care outside of UNC fans. And its not like doing what he's doing now saved him from any hate from UNC fans.

And ya adding Buzelis to the class would be ridiculous. Even if youre not sold on Victor at the top as a generational guy, just the volume of maybe not great but really really good talent with skill sets that are important would be fun to watch.

[Marcus]

I’m honestly not nearly as high on Victor as everyone else.

what are your concerns with Vic's game and or potential progression?