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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Part II 

Post#241 » by Big J » Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:08 pm

The more I've been watching the playoffs the more I dislike Chet. He's going to get absolutely murdered in pick & rolls & switches. The game is going away from the big man.
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Post#242 » by SelfishPlayer » Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:25 pm

Big J wrote:The more I've been watching the playoffs the more I dislike Chet. He's going to get absolutely murdered in pick & rolls & switches. The game is going away from the big man.


The game is going away from this?

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Post#243 » by Big J » Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:43 pm

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Big J wrote:The more I've been watching the playoffs the more I dislike Chet. He's going to get absolutely murdered in pick & rolls & switches. The game is going away from the big man.


The game is going away from this?



Ahh yes, an offensive highlight totally refuted my point about defense, smh.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Part II 

Post#244 » by SelfishPlayer » Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:46 pm

Big J wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
Big J wrote:The more I've been watching the playoffs the more I dislike Chet. He's going to get absolutely murdered in pick & rolls & switches. The game is going away from the big man.


The game is going away from this?



Ahh yes, an offensive highlight totally refuted my point about defense, smh.


No one ever provides proof supporting their concerns about Chet's defense.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Part II 

Post#245 » by Hal14 » Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:04 pm

Big J wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
Big J wrote:The more I've been watching the playoffs the more I dislike Chet. He's going to get absolutely murdered in pick & rolls & switches. The game is going away from the big man.


The game is going away from this?



Ahh yes, an offensive highlight totally refuted my point about defense, smh.

There's defensive plays by Chet in that video too.
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything :)
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Part II 

Post#246 » by SelfishPlayer » Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:28 pm

EJ Liddell is an interesting guy because he shoots the 3 well enough and blocks enough shots IMO to minimize tweener concerns. Here's a clip of him blocking Banchero's turn around jump shot while defending him. (0:30 mark) Which makes me think about Banchero's standing reach. I believe that he's every bit of 6'10" but those arms look rather pedestrian in length.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Part II 

Post#247 » by Big J » Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:46 pm

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Big J wrote:
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The game is going away from this?



Ahh yes, an offensive highlight totally refuted my point about defense, smh.


No one ever provides proof supporting their concerns about Chet's defense.


Show me a play where Chet locks down an athletic NBA level guard on the perimeter. If he can't do that he'll be rendered useless in the playoffs like Gobert and all the other centers who are getting played off the floor.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Part II 

Post#248 » by SelfishPlayer » Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:58 pm

Big J wrote:
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Big J wrote:
Ahh yes, an offensive highlight totally refuted my point about defense, smh.


No one ever provides proof supporting their concerns about Chet's defense.


Show me a play where Chet locks down an athletic NBA level guard on the perimeter. If he can't do that he'll be rendered useless in the playoffs like Gobert and all the other centers who are getting played off the floor.


NBA centers aren't valued upon whether they can "lock down" athletic guards on the perimeter. You're talking about playoffs, well let's talk about championships. Marc Gasol was a recent championship starting center right?
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Part II 

Post#249 » by Big J » Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:03 pm

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Big J wrote:
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No one ever provides proof supporting their concerns about Chet's defense.


Show me a play where Chet locks down an athletic NBA level guard on the perimeter. If he can't do that he'll be rendered useless in the playoffs like Gobert and all the other centers who are getting played off the floor.


NBA centers aren't valued upon whether they can "lock down" athletic guards on the perimeter. You're talking about playoffs, well let's talk about championships. Marc Gasol was a recent championship starting center right?


Times change fast. Teams are attacking much more Centers relentlessly in the playoffs this year than they did even 3 years ago.
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Post#250 » by SelfishPlayer » Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:08 pm

Big J wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
Big J wrote:
Show me a play where Chet locks down an athletic NBA level guard on the perimeter. If he can't do that he'll be rendered useless in the playoffs like Gobert and all the other centers who are getting played off the floor.


NBA centers aren't valued upon whether they can "lock down" athletic guards on the perimeter. You're talking about playoffs, well let's talk about championships. Marc Gasol was a recent championship starting center right?


Times change fast. Teams are attacking much more Centers relentlessly in the playoffs this year than they did even 3 years ago.


You mean like how the King's used Mike Bibby in the pick and roll against Shaq? Talk championship NBA basketball or leave it alone...
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Post#251 » by Big J » Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:12 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:
Big J wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
NBA centers aren't valued upon whether they can "lock down" athletic guards on the perimeter. You're talking about playoffs, well let's talk about championships. Marc Gasol was a recent championship starting center right?


Times change fast. Teams are attacking much more Centers relentlessly in the playoffs this year than they did even 3 years ago.


You mean like how the King's used Mike Bibby in the pick and roll against Shaq? Talk championship NBA basketball or leave it alone...


The Kings ran their offense through CWebb at the elbow...
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Post#252 » by K_chile22 » Sat Apr 23, 2022 12:18 am

Big J wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
Big J wrote:
Ahh yes, an offensive highlight totally refuted my point about defense, smh.


No one ever provides proof supporting their concerns about Chet's defense.


Show me a play where Chet locks down an athletic NBA level guard on the perimeter. If he can't do that he'll be rendered useless in the playoffs like Gobert and all the other centers who are getting played off the floor.


Gobert is absolutely not the one getting attacked out there. If Utah had even ok point of attack defense this wouldn't be a discussion
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Post#253 » by CP War Hawks » Sat Apr 23, 2022 3:08 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:EJ Liddell is an interesting guy because he shoots the 3 well enough and blocks enough shots IMO to minimize tweener concerns. Here's a clip of him blocking Banchero's turn around jump shot while defending him. (0:30 mark) Which makes me think about Banchero's standing reach. I believe that he's every bit of 6'10" but those arms look rather pedestrian in length.


Banchero has some impressive legs, almost body builder like. EJL might be a stealth pick for the Hawks at 16. He basically has the same body type as Okongwu but with a combo forward skill set.

I'm kinda of hoping his body fat is high cause he's already pretty athletic as is, and his physical ceiling is raised if he can clean up sum bad weight and transform good weight in return.
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Post#254 » by Rodrickle » Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:27 pm

K_chile22 wrote:
Big J wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
No one ever provides proof supporting their concerns about Chet's defense.


Show me a play where Chet locks down an athletic NBA level guard on the perimeter. If he can't do that he'll be rendered useless in the playoffs like Gobert and all the other centers who are getting played off the floor.


Gobert is absolutely not the one getting attacked out there. If Utah had even ok point of attack defense this wouldn't be a discussion
Absolutely right. Utah's perimeter defense is laughable, probably worst in the league. Gobert's defense up to the foul line is whats keeping their defense competent. Gobert on our team would be insane defensively.

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Post#255 » by mirmil » Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:38 pm

Who 'd fit Nuggets the best from this class? Guys I see them connected with on multiple mock drafts are Jović, Eason and Kendall Brown? Jović looks like Kevin Love lite while watching him here in Serbia, how about the other two mentioned?
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Post#256 » by clyde21 » Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:51 pm

mirmil wrote:Who 'd fit Nuggets the best from this class? Guys I see them connected with on multiple mock drafts are Jović, Eason and Kendall Brown? Jović looks like Kevin Love lite while watching him here in Serbia, how about the other two mentioned?


combo guard or wing makes a lot of sense, i'd go for a Max Christie or Bryce McGowens, or Tari Eason if he drops.
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Post#257 » by shangrila » Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:03 am

mirmil wrote:Who 'd fit Nuggets the best from this class? Guys I see them connected with on multiple mock drafts are Jović, Eason and Kendall Brown? Jović looks like Kevin Love lite while watching him here in Serbia, how about the other two mentioned?

Jovic I'd avoid. I don't think he'll be able to guard at the NBA level, so he probably caps out as Nemanja Bjelica. Not the worst outcome, but not something to aim for either.

Eason is incredible but likely a lottery prospect. I think it would take something drastic, like a serious injury concern, to see him drop to Denver.

Brown is one of the best athletes in the entire draft but raw skill-wise. If Denver is comfortable with their rotation they can probably take a guy like this to bring along slowly.

I know it might sound weird but I think Walker Kessler would be interesting for them. Obviously you'd be drafting a 10mpg backup to Jokic but maybe getting a quality backup would give Jokic more rest during the season.
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Post#258 » by mirmil » Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:48 am

shangrila wrote:
mirmil wrote:Who 'd fit Nuggets the best from this class? Guys I see them connected with on multiple mock drafts are Jović, Eason and Kendall Brown? Jović looks like Kevin Love lite while watching him here in Serbia, how about the other two mentioned?

Jovic I'd avoid. I don't think he'll be able to guard at the NBA level, so he probably caps out as Nemanja Bjelica. Not the worst outcome, but not something to aim for either.

Eason is incredible but likely a lottery prospect. I think it would take something drastic, like a serious injury concern, to see him drop to Denver.

Brown is one of the best athletes in the entire draft but raw skill-wise. If Denver is comfortable with their rotation they can probably take a guy like this to bring along slowly.

I know it might sound weird but I think Walker Kessler would be interesting for them. Obviously you'd be drafting a 10mpg backup to Jokic but maybe getting a quality backup would give Jokic more rest during the season.


Bjelica came too late to the NBA and Jović is already a better shooter. Getting there at a young age can only benefit him. I wouldn't take Kessler over Boogie for backup if Nuggets are aiming for championship next season, especially if they are healthy. They are most likely go for SG/SF in the draft and there are some names mentioned, although I don't watch college and G league at all so I don't have a clue about any of those. Familiar with Jović development since his team is like couple of hours away from here. Kid looks like a hard working guy but I am not sure Nuggets are in need of PF which is his natural position.
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Post#259 » by SNPA » Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:47 am

mirmil wrote:
shangrila wrote:
mirmil wrote:Who 'd fit Nuggets the best from this class? Guys I see them connected with on multiple mock drafts are Jović, Eason and Kendall Brown? Jović looks like Kevin Love lite while watching him here in Serbia, how about the other two mentioned?

Jovic I'd avoid. I don't think he'll be able to guard at the NBA level, so he probably caps out as Nemanja Bjelica. Not the worst outcome, but not something to aim for either.

Eason is incredible but likely a lottery prospect. I think it would take something drastic, like a serious injury concern, to see him drop to Denver.

Brown is one of the best athletes in the entire draft but raw skill-wise. If Denver is comfortable with their rotation they can probably take a guy like this to bring along slowly.

I know it might sound weird but I think Walker Kessler would be interesting for them. Obviously you'd be drafting a 10mpg backup to Jokic but maybe getting a quality backup would give Jokic more rest during the season.


Bjelica came too late to the NBA and Jović is already a better shooter. Getting there at a young age can only benefit him. I wouldn't take Kessler over Boogie for backup if Nuggets are aiming for championship next season, especially if they are healthy. They are most likely go for SG/SF in the draft and there are some names mentioned, although I don't watch college and G league at all so I don't have a clue about any of those. Familiar with Jović development since his team is like couple of hours away from here. Kid looks like a hard working guy but I am not sure Nuggets are in need of PF which is his natural position.

Better shooter? If that’s true any team post lottery would be thrilled to draft him. I spent several seasons watching Belly shoot. His range is a few feet past half court. He has gravity, or a team will wish they’d stuck on him. If Jovic is that good…he’ll be in the league a long time.
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Post#260 » by The-Power » Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:52 am

Chi town wrote:Kris Murray entering draft. Think he goes 25-30

I'd hope my Warriors would not let him slip further than 28. Same for Jabari Walker.

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