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Re: Zaccharie Risacher 

Post#241 » by ReggiesKnicks » Tue Apr 1, 2025 11:26 pm

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Bro, you can do this in basketball-reference lol. Even if you took every NBA stat ever it's not a "massive" database by today's standard. It's a few GB, if that.


I use that a lot and don't see how you'd do that. Please provide step by step how to extract every rookie season for all players in NBA history to start with. Then, sort that by individual stats. I've wanted to do this forever. I know you can view rookies by season but don't see how to view all rookies ever


https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2025_rookies-season-stats.html

You need to go through each season and turn it into a csv and then append them. It shouldn't take you more than 20 minutes or so to do this manually. If it were me, and I cared enough (which I don't), I would use Claude to write me a scraper to do it. :lol: :lol:


The thing is, you only need to do this once, then you have all rookie seasons. Every year, just do it once to add the most recent season and you have all the data.
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Re: Zaccharie Risacher 

Post#242 » by FarBeyondDriven » Wed Apr 2, 2025 2:42 am

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Bro, you can do this in basketball-reference lol. Even if you took every NBA stat ever it's not a "massive" database by today's standard. It's a few GB, if that.


I use that a lot and don't see how you'd do that. Please provide step by step how to extract every rookie season for all players in NBA history to start with. Then, sort that by individual stats. I've wanted to do this forever. I know you can view rookies by season but don't see how to view all rookies ever


https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2025_rookies-season-stats.html

You need to go through each season and turn it into a csv and then append them. It shouldn't take you more than 20 minutes or so to do this manually. If it were me, and I cared enough (which I don't), I would use Claude to write me a scraper to do it. :lol: :lol:


so basically you mocked me when I wondered how people were doing it and then claimed it was super easy, just go onto basketball reference hur dur! Only to now admit it's NOT easy and it's at minimum a 20 min process of having to extrapolate each individual rookie season manually into a spreadsheet. Gotcha. Maybe next time in your zeal to own someone you're triggered by you could maybe not? Maybe at minimum go onto the site and see if it's possible to have all this info easily accessible to spit out these random factoids "Rookie doing X for the first time" so you don't look foolish. What's even worse and so typical with this site is it's not just one of you that does this crap, you had an equally clueless dude chime in.
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Re: Zaccharie Risacher 

Post#243 » by EvanZ » Wed Apr 2, 2025 2:49 am

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I use that a lot and don't see how you'd do that. Please provide step by step how to extract every rookie season for all players in NBA history to start with. Then, sort that by individual stats. I've wanted to do this forever. I know you can view rookies by season but don't see how to view all rookies ever


https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2025_rookies-season-stats.html

You need to go through each season and turn it into a csv and then append them. It shouldn't take you more than 20 minutes or so to do this manually. If it were me, and I cared enough (which I don't), I would use Claude to write me a scraper to do it. :lol: :lol:


so basically you mocked me when I wondered how people were doing it and then claimed it was super easy, just go onto basketball reference hur dur! Only to now admit it's NOT easy and it's at minimum a 20 min process of having to extrapolate each individual rookie season manually into a spreadsheet. Gotcha. Maybe next time in your zeal to own someone you're triggered by you could maybe not? Maybe at minimum go onto the site and see if it's possible to have all this info easily accessible to spit out these random factoids "Rookie doing X for the first time" so you don't look foolish. What's even worse and so typical with this site is it's not just one of you that does this crap, you had an equally clueless dude chime in.


Bro what in gods name is your definition of easy. You must be the laziest mofo on earth lol.

In reality people who care about such things already have code to pull these stats instantly. So not only are you incredibly lazy but also incredibly uninformed. Basically a luddite. How do you get by?
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Post#244 » by atlantabbq99 » Wed Apr 2, 2025 3:34 am

Risacher = ROY

ROY will go to Zach or Castle, they are by far the two best players in the draft.

For a draft class that didn't have a clear cut #1 and so many NBA experts having a different guy as their top prospect, and with Risacher going as low as #15 or #14 in some mock drafts, the Hawks nailed it by getting him at #1. Hawks basically did the equivalent of taking an un known prospect like Giannis or Kawhi at #1, while everybody else said it was a reach or bust.

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Re: Zaccharie Risacher 

Post#245 » by babyjax13 » Wed Apr 2, 2025 3:56 am

atlantabbq99 wrote:Risacher = ROY

ROY will got to Zach or Castle, they are by far the two best players in the draft.

For a draft class that didn't have a clear cut #1 and so many NBA experts having a different guy as their top prospect, and with Risacher going as low as #15 or #14 in some mock draft, the Hawks nailed it by getting him at #1. Hawks basically did the equivalent of taking an un known prospect like Giannis or Kawhi at #1, while everybody else said it was a reach or bust.



I mean, that is definitely not the case. Most mocks had him top 6 by the time the draft was close, and he + Sarr were the most discussed international prospects for a year and a half. Did they make a good choice? They made a reasonable choice, perhaps the best possible choice, but lots of guys could still develop.
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Re: Zaccharie Risacher 

Post#246 » by azcatz11 » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:23 am

EvanZ wrote:
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https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2025_rookies-season-stats.html

You need to go through each season and turn it into a csv and then append them. It shouldn't take you more than 20 minutes or so to do this manually. If it were me, and I cared enough (which I don't), I would use Claude to write me a scraper to do it. :lol: :lol:


so basically you mocked me when I wondered how people were doing it and then claimed it was super easy, just go onto basketball reference hur dur! Only to now admit it's NOT easy and it's at minimum a 20 min process of having to extrapolate each individual rookie season manually into a spreadsheet. Gotcha. Maybe next time in your zeal to own someone you're triggered by you could maybe not? Maybe at minimum go onto the site and see if it's possible to have all this info easily accessible to spit out these random factoids "Rookie doing X for the first time" so you don't look foolish. What's even worse and so typical with this site is it's not just one of you that does this crap, you had an equally clueless dude chime in.


Bro what in gods name is your definition of easy. You must be the laziest mofo on earth lol.

In reality people who care about such things already have code to pull these stats instantly. So not only are you incredibly lazy but also incredibly uninformed. Basically a luddite. How do you get by?


Are you guys trolling with this back & forth or is this a serious conversation?
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Re: Zaccharie Risacher 

Post#247 » by yellowknifer » Sat Apr 5, 2025 7:52 am

atlantabbq99 wrote:Risacher = ROY

ROY will go to Zach or Castle, they are by far the two best players in the draft.

For a draft class that didn't have a clear cut #1 and so many NBA experts having a different guy as their top prospect, and with Risacher going as low as #15 or #14 in some mock drafts, the Hawks nailed it by getting him at #1. Hawks basically did the equivalent of taking an un known prospect like Giannis or Kawhi at #1, while everybody else said it was a reach or bust.



He looks really good lately. I don’t know if he will ever be a superstar but you can’t write off the possibility. Definitely a nice pick. There were a decent number of solid to good players in this draft. Not many who could become superstars. This class got more hate than it deserved going into the season. IMO. Atlanta has an interesting future. I love Daniels and JJ. Just need to stay healthy. I feel like the talent you guys have is better than your record this year by a fair bit.
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Post#248 » by atlantabbq99 » Sat Apr 5, 2025 8:16 am

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atlantabbq99 wrote:Risacher = ROY

ROY will go to Zach or Castle, they are by far the two best players in the draft.

For a draft class that didn't have a clear cut #1 and so many NBA experts having a different guy as their top prospect, and with Risacher going as low as #15 or #14 in some mock drafts, the Hawks nailed it by getting him at #1. Hawks basically did the equivalent of taking an un known prospect like Giannis or Kawhi at #1, while everybody else said it was a reach or bust.



He looks really good lately. I don’t know if he will ever be a superstar but you can’t write off the possibility. Definitely a nice pick. There were a decent number of solid to good players in this draft. Not many who could become superstars. This class got more hate than it deserved going into the season. IMO. Atlanta has an interesting future. I love Daniels and JJ. Just need to stay healthy. I feel like the talent you guys have is better than your record this year by a fair bit.



It wouldn't be fair to say Zac is going to be the next KD or Carmelo, but my comp for Zac before the draft was a taller Rip Hamilton. If Zac's growth, talent, and career arch can mirror Rip Hamilton, I would be very happy.

Hawks keep over drafting SFs. Hawks need a Center to replace Clint. Hawks missed out on drafting GA native Walker Kessler. Everybody knows about Trae's stats, but Hawks fans know that the real key to the Hawks' playoff run has always been because of Clint.
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Re: Zaccharie Risacher 

Post#249 » by FarBeyondDriven » Sun Apr 6, 2025 8:22 am

EvanZ wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2025_rookies-season-stats.html

You need to go through each season and turn it into a csv and then append them. It shouldn't take you more than 20 minutes or so to do this manually. If it were me, and I cared enough (which I don't), I would use Claude to write me a scraper to do it. :lol: :lol:


so basically you mocked me when I wondered how people were doing it and then claimed it was super easy, just go onto basketball reference hur dur! Only to now admit it's NOT easy and it's at minimum a 20 min process of having to extrapolate each individual rookie season manually into a spreadsheet. Gotcha. Maybe next time in your zeal to own someone you're triggered by you could maybe not? Maybe at minimum go onto the site and see if it's possible to have all this info easily accessible to spit out these random factoids "Rookie doing X for the first time" so you don't look foolish. What's even worse and so typical with this site is it's not just one of you that does this crap, you had an equally clueless dude chime in.


Bro what in gods name is your definition of easy. You must be the laziest mofo on earth lol.

In reality people who care about such things already have code to pull these stats instantly. So not only are you incredibly lazy but also incredibly uninformed. Basically a luddite. How do you get by?


I care about it and I don't "have code" which is why I asked if there was a db already set up to access this easily. You're the one who chimed in and claimed you could easily do it via basketball reference. You're even worse to deal with than I remember lmao. Sure bro, people just "have code" and know how to do this crap. Do you hear yourself? So which one is it? Is it a 20 min process or "have code"? Scratch that, I really won't read your inane response after this ludicrous exchange.
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Re: Zaccharie Risacher 

Post#250 » by EvanZ » Sun Apr 6, 2025 11:13 am

But, it ain’t hard to read. It’s 20 minutes if you don’t have the code and have to manually download the stats. If you’re too lazy to do that then you obviously don’t care that much about your own question in the first place. God bless you lazy summa bitch.
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Re: Zaccharie Risacher 

Post#251 » by ReggiesKnicks » Fri Apr 11, 2025 3:11 am

I feel like Risacher is what people thought Jabari Smith Jr would be.
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Post#252 » by NO-KG-AI » Fri Apr 11, 2025 3:40 am

ReggiesKnicks wrote:I feel like Risacher is what people thought Jabari Smith Jr would be.


He’s about what I thought Smith could or would be. Had more than a few on here that thought Smith is like the greatest tough shot maker of all time.
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Post#253 » by Upperclass » Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:13 pm

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Upperclass wrote:He reminds me of Kevin Martin.. if he can't shoot like him though I don't know what you have.. He's VERY slow turning the corner on ball but fairly quick off ball with a quick release.. if he gets his jumpshot together he'll be a plus starter.. if not.. he won't have a place on any NBA court.. he doesn't do anything else well except constantly move offball


Still reminds me of Kevin Martin
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Post#254 » by ReggiesKnicks » Fri Apr 11, 2025 2:01 pm

Upperclass wrote:viewtopic.php?p=114335275#p114335275

Upperclass wrote:He reminds me of Kevin Martin.. if he can't shoot like him though I don't know what you have.. He's VERY slow turning the corner on ball but fairly quick off ball with a quick release.. if he gets his jumpshot together he'll be a plus starter.. if not.. he won't have a place on any NBA court.. he doesn't do anything else well except constantly move offball


Still reminds me of Kevin Martin


Offensively the comp is fine. Defensively he has a lot more tools and projects to be a good team defender.

I like to think of Risacher as a better defensive Cameron Johnson.

I also think saying "if he can't shoot he won't be in the NBA" is going to be true for a vast majority of players. Even the most downhill guys like Ja Morant are required to develop a 3P shot.
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Post#255 » by Upperclass » Fri Apr 11, 2025 3:06 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
Upperclass wrote:viewtopic.php?p=114335275#p114335275

Upperclass wrote:He reminds me of Kevin Martin.. if he can't shoot like him though I don't know what you have.. He's VERY slow turning the corner on ball but fairly quick off ball with a quick release.. if he gets his jumpshot together he'll be a plus starter.. if not.. he won't have a place on any NBA court.. he doesn't do anything else well except constantly move offball


Still reminds me of Kevin Martin


Offensively the comp is fine. Defensively he has a lot more tools and projects to be a good team defender.

I like to think of Risacher as a better defensive Cameron Johnson.

I also think saying "if he can't shoot he won't be in the NBA" is going to be true for a vast majority of players. Even the most downhill guys like Ja Morant are required to develop a 3P shot.


Not exactly. Guys like Josh Smith and Jaden McDaniels are/were still contributing NBA players without being shooters. I dont think Risacher has enough skill elsewhere to be impactful without scoring/shooting. He's does a bit here and there but you can get the same from almost any other NBA wing other than his unique offball movement.
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Re: Zaccharie Risacher 

Post#256 » by Dat2U » Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:45 pm

I think what Zacc is doing is easily translatable to winning basketball vs what Stephon Castle is doing as a heavy volume shot creator with poor efficiency. Obviously Castle has more physical tools and a higher upside on both sides of the ball but shooting remains the swing skill and he'll need to show significant growth there for these March/April stat lines to hold and really mean something going forward. Zacc as a 6-10, + movement shooter and solid wing defender is an easy plug & play into a lot of lineups.
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Post#257 » by Upperclass » Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:47 pm

Dat2U wrote:I think what Zacc is doing is easily translatable to winning basketball vs what Stephon Castle is doing as a heavy volume shot creator with poor efficiency. Obviously Castle has more physical tools and a higher upside on both sides of the ball but shooting remains the swing skill and he'll need to show significant growth there for these March/April stat lines to hold and really mean something going forward. Zacc as a 6-10, + movement shooter and solid wing defender is an easy plug & play into a lot of lineups.


Castle will be a MUCH better player in terms of impact on winning imo. But also much different roles on a team
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Post#258 » by NO-KG-AI » Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:21 pm

Kevin Martin with thst size, length, and defensive potential is a fantastic player lol.
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Post#259 » by Upperclass » Sat Apr 12, 2025 1:06 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:Kevin Martin with thst size, length, and defensive potential is a fantastic player lol.


It is but he doesnt have a notable wingspan, reach or high defensive potential. He's a fairly proportionate, fairly average athlete who is figuring out what he's good at. I think he is likely a very good, non-ball dominant offensive player who wont do much else but will fit a lineup that needs that type of player. Imo Castle will be one of the best combinations of defense, passing, and highIQ offball play in the league.

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