2024 NBA Draft Thread

[JustBuzzin]

Kyshawn George fan stand up!

I'm high on that kid as well.

Babyjax was the first person to tell me about George...I honestly had no idea he was even a prospect until the media kept hyping him up.

I'm telling ya'll this is a Cam Reddish situation. Looks great on paper but the kid is a non impact player. I bet he goes top 10 in this draft and I wouldn't be surprised if he's out of the league within 4 years.

Might be. To be fair were the draft not as thin as it is I wouldn't normally have him as high as I do. In most drafts I think he'd be like 8-15 on my board? Maybe even a bit lower since he was not a huge producer, but I do like what I see and think that he was good at things he's supposed to be good at, unlike Cam who was billed as a shooter and just wasn't. My main comp for George is Joe Ingles, who was a very good player but certainly just a very good roleplayer.

Just curious who are your top 5 wings in this draft?

[azcatz11]

Kyshawn George fan stand up!

I'm high on that kid as well.

Babyjax was the first person to tell me about George...I honestly had no idea he was even a prospect until the media kept hyping him up.

I'm telling ya'll this is a Cam Reddish situation. Looks great on paper but the kid is a non impact player. I bet he goes top 10 in this draft and I wouldn't be surprised if he's out of the league within 4 years.

Might be. To be fair were the draft not as thin as it is I wouldn't normally have him as high as I do. In most drafts I think he'd be like 8-15 on my board? Maybe even a bit lower since he was not a huge producer, but I do like what I see and think that he was good at things he's supposed to be good at, unlike Cam who was billed as a shooter and just wasn't. My main comp for George is Joe Ingles, who was a very good player but certainly just a very good roleplayer.

I understand. I believe he’s a lotto ticket. There is that possibility he turns into Tobias Harris (that’s my highest upside for him) I will admit I had the same thoughts about Mathurin after his freshman season…I couldn’t believe people thought he was a top 10 guy and he proved me wrong so who knows

[babyjax13]

Babyjax was the first person to tell me about George...I honestly had no idea he was even a prospect until the media kept hyping him up.

I'm telling ya'll this is a Cam Reddish situation. Looks great on paper but the kid is a non impact player. I bet he goes top 10 in this draft and I wouldn't be surprised if he's out of the league within 4 years.

Might be. To be fair were the draft not as thin as it is I wouldn't normally have him as high as I do. In most drafts I think he'd be like 8-15 on my board? Maybe even a bit lower since he was not a huge producer, but I do like what I see and think that he was good at things he's supposed to be good at, unlike Cam who was billed as a shooter and just wasn't. My main comp for George is Joe Ingles, who was a very good player but certainly just a very good roleplayer.

Just curious who are your top 5 wings in this draft?

Other than George pretty standard:


Kyshawn George
Ron Holland
Zaccharie Rissacher
Cody Williams
Tristan da Silva

This assumes Knecht is mostly a '2' and Saluan and Smith are mostly 4s. I also am toying with Rissacher moving above Holland, I go back and forth between he and Holland (did with Williams for a while, too).

[JustBuzzin]

Might be. To be fair were the draft not as thin as it is I wouldn't normally have him as high as I do. In most drafts I think he'd be like 8-15 on my board? Maybe even a bit lower since he was not a huge producer, but I do like what I see and think that he was good at things he's supposed to be good at, unlike Cam who was billed as a shooter and just wasn't. My main comp for George is Joe Ingles, who was a very good player but certainly just a very good roleplayer.

Just curious who are your top 5 wings in this draft?

Other than George pretty standard:


Kyshawn George
Ron Holland
Zaccharie Rissacher
Cody Williams
Tristan da Silva

This assumes Knecht is mostly a '2' and Saluan and Smith are mostly 4s. I also am toying with Rissacher moving above Holland, I go back and forth between he and Holland (did with Williams for a while, too).

Da Silva is going to be a steal. I think he will have immediate impact off the bench as a role player.

I'm just not sold on Holland. He seems like a athlete. He's shot awful at the combine and reports are he's still shooting bad in workouts. If his shot is not falling I just don't see his impact.

I feel like Shannon Jr could be this years Cam Whitmore. His stock is lower than it should be because of his case off the court. I think he will end up as a top 3 wing in this class.

Risacher is probably my #1 wing just because he's at worst a 3&D player. Once he adds more weight he should be a high quality role player at his peak.

[babyjax13]

Just curious who are your top 5 wings in this draft?

Other than George pretty standard:


Kyshawn George
Ron Holland
Zaccharie Rissacher
Cody Williams
Tristan da Silva

This assumes Knecht is mostly a '2' and Saluan and Smith are mostly 4s. I also am toying with Rissacher moving above Holland, I go back and forth between he and Holland (did with Williams for a while, too).

Da Silva is going to be a steal. I think he will have immediate impact off the bench as a role player.

I'm just not sold on Holland. He seems like a athlete. He's shot awful at the combine and reports are he's still shooting bad in workouts. If his shot is not falling I just don't see his impact.

I feel like Shannon Jr could be this years Cam Whitmore. His stock is lower than it should be because of his case off the court. I think he will end up as a top 3 wing in this class.

Risacher is probably my #1 wing just because he's at worst a 3&D player. Once he adds more weight he should be a high quality role player at his peak.

Shannon has been mocked in the 40s for 3 years then as a 5th year senior takes a leap. I'm really worried about the 5th year senior phenomenon, that's a lot of skill and physical development over incoming players. Could be wrong, could see him being one of the 10 best players in the draft so pending the legal case I think he's worth a shot in the first round.

Also yah, Holland's shooting is a huge concern.

[SelfishPlayer]

Other than George pretty standard:


Kyshawn George
Ron Holland
Zaccharie Rissacher
Cody Williams
Tristan da Silva

This assumes Knecht is mostly a '2' and Saluan and Smith are mostly 4s. I also am toying with Rissacher moving above Holland, I go back and forth between he and Holland (did with Williams for a while, too).

Da Silva is going to be a steal. I think he will have immediate impact off the bench as a role player.

I'm just not sold on Holland. He seems like a athlete. He's shot awful at the combine and reports are he's still shooting bad in workouts. If his shot is not falling I just don't see his impact.

I feel like Shannon Jr could be this years Cam Whitmore. His stock is lower than it should be because of his case off the court. I think he will end up as a top 3 wing in this class.

Risacher is probably my #1 wing just because he's at worst a 3&D player. Once he adds more weight he should be a high quality role player at his peak.

Shannon has been mocked in the 40s for 3 years then as a 5th year senior takes a leap. I'm really worried about the 5th year senior phenomenon, that's a lot of skill and physical development over incoming players. Could be wrong, could see him being one of the 10 best players in the draft so pending the legal case I think he's worth a shot in the first round.

Also yah, Holland's shooting is a huge concern.

Ron Holland had a 3.5 steal rate and averaged 19.5 ppg while frequently competing against men at 18 years of age. He looks like he is on the path to become an impactful NBA player, perhaps a star. Most elite SG/SF prospects are still in high school at 18.

[FarBeyondDriven]

International testing and measurements have been added to the NBA combine site.

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?dir=D&sort=HEIGHT_WO_SHOES&SeasonYear=2024-25

Juan Nunez is actually 6'4" without shoes. Kinda surprising. I've been evaluating him as a 6'3" in shoes guy so I will go back through his film.

You'll notice most of the Europeans tested poorly especially in the vertical. But I'd remind people that they didn't have 6-8 weeks to hire coaches to specifically improve their performance for these tests like the Americans have since they just got done playing. Plus they aren't as fresh and might still be dealing with nagging injuries. I'd conservatively add 4-6 inches on their vertical as the film doesn't lie. All of them have decent athleticism unlike what the numbers suggest.

Just looking through these numbers and man, it's a deep class for taller wings. If you need a 4 this class has you covered

Risacher
Salaun
Klintman
Dadiet
Furphy
Buzelis
Smith
Holmes II
da Silva
Ajinca
Djurisic

[FarBeyondDriven]

Watched a ton of Chomche (almost all the film that is available), now I really don't get it and I already didn't before. He has a terrible shot but shoots a lot (TONS of airballs, even from 5 feet), he is indecisive, he has really poor decisionmaking, he can't dribble, he can't finish around the rim, he is a walking missed dunk + layup. He throws some nice passes but more frequently stands there trying to figure out what is happening on the court. He gets the ball stripped all the time, etc. etc. I do think when he is not under duress he is okay (sometimes) at keeping the ball moving unless he decides to fart up a jumper, but not only do I not see a first round pick, I don't see a gleague player - much less an NBA player. I think he will continue to be a mediocre player in the BAL (which is bad right now but improving pretty fast, I've actually had fun watching some of their games) for a few years before moving up to a European League, Australia, or China if his skill level improves (which I assume it will).

What you are betting on is a guy who hasn't learned to use his body and that this will actually happen. Maybe it will, but it's a very outside chance. I remember watching Coboclo and he was way more polished as a skinny kid from Brazil than Chomche is.

he tested pretty well. He's a physical specimen and athlete. He's also the youngest player in the draft. He's going to need several years though because he's as raw as I've seen a player. He'd be a perfect draft and stash. His improvement with good coaching could come quick. I agree about his passing. He sees the floor and has good touch. He really shouldn't be jacking threes and he has almost no idea what he's doing offensively. But if you have a bunch of 2nd round picks, why not use one on him as a lottery ticket?

[FarBeyondDriven]

Kyshawn George getting drafted in the first round will be the first time I can recall a freshman role player getting drafted that high. He does things in college that role players do in the NBA because they are restricted from doing more and typically displayed a greater variety of ability at some point in the past. Kyshawn George was literally a role player in college and didn't produce very much. He shot the magic 40% from three, and passes the ball well off the dribble, but it's scary projecting a 7.6 ppg freshman as a first round pick. This used to be reserved for the international guys relegated to bench roles due to veterans taking priority. The University of Miami doesn't have a team filled with future professional basketball players.

but it actually does have guys that have NBA aspirations, both of whom were getting draft buzz and a coach that was prioritizing them in Mathew Cleveland and Wooga Poplar. This is similar to what happens to most players when they go the NBL or play overseas. You can't evaluate prospects like these using stats and production and that's where so many here and in the media fail when it comes to this class since it's loaded with more examples like this than normal. You had Dillingham and Sheppard playing backup to Wagner. NBL guys all backups if playing at all. Furphy backed up Elmarko Jackson for first 1/4 of the season. Ignite was a wreck and made evaluating its players much harder. McCain was prevented from playing much PG. Castle didn't play PG like he could have. Cody Williams was injured all season with one thing or another.

It is just requiring a different manner of evaluation and people don't seem quite up to it imho, mostly because of their reliance on stats and production which should be the last thing you should care about tbh. Go look at the production for Embiid at Kansas, Bam at Kentucky, JJJ at MSU, Barnes at FSU and international guys like Jokic, Giannis Avdija, Coulibaly and Luka playing overseas before entering the league. I just don't get why people are so harsh to the kids in this class but overlooked production when it came to these other guys in past drafts. Anything to fit the narrative I guess.

[Pattycakes]

Da Silva is going to be a steal. I think he will have immediate impact off the bench as a role player.

I'm just not sold on Holland. He seems like a athlete. He's shot awful at the combine and reports are he's still shooting bad in workouts. If his shot is not falling I just don't see his impact.

I feel like Shannon Jr could be this years Cam Whitmore. His stock is lower than it should be because of his case off the court. I think he will end up as a top 3 wing in this class.

Risacher is probably my #1 wing just because he's at worst a 3&D player. Once he adds more weight he should be a high quality role player at his peak.

Shannon has been mocked in the 40s for 3 years then as a 5th year senior takes a leap. I'm really worried about the 5th year senior phenomenon, that's a lot of skill and physical development over incoming players. Could be wrong, could see him being one of the 10 best players in the draft so pending the legal case I think he's worth a shot in the first round.

Also yah, Holland's shooting is a huge concern.

Ron Holland had a 3.5 steal rate and averaged 19.5 ppg while frequently competing against men at 18 years of age. He looks like he is on the path to become an impactful NBA player, perhaps a star. Most elite SG/SF prospects are still in high school at 18.

Come to Portland Ron

[The Moose]

Kyshawn George getting drafted in the first round will be the first time I can recall a freshman role player getting drafted that high. He does things in college that role players do in the NBA because they are restricted from doing more and typically displayed a greater variety of ability at some point in the past. Kyshawn George was literally a role player in college and didn't produce very much. He shot the magic 40% from three, and passes the ball well off the dribble, but it's scary projecting a 7.6 ppg freshman as a first round pick. This used to be reserved for the international guys relegated to bench roles due to veterans taking priority. The University of Miami doesn't have a team filled with future professional basketball players.

but it actually does have guys that have NBA aspirations, both of whom were getting draft buzz and a coach that was prioritizing them in Mathew Cleveland and Wooga Poplar. This is similar to what happens to most players when they go the NBL or play overseas. You can't evaluate prospects like these using stats and production and that's where so many here and in the media fail when it comes to this class since it's loaded with more examples like this than normal. You had Dillingham and Sheppard playing backup to Wagner. NBL guys all backups if playing at all. Furphy backed up Elmarko Jackson for first 1/4 of the season. Ignite was a wreck and made evaluating its players much harder. McCain was prevented from playing much PG. Castle didn't play PG like he could have. Cody Williams was injured all season with one thing or another.

It is just requiring a different manner of evaluation and people don't seem quite up to it imho, mostly because of their reliance on stats and production which should be the last thing you should care about tbh. Go look at the production for Embiid at Kansas, Bam at Kentucky, JJJ at MSU, Barnes at FSU and international guys like Jokic, Giannis Avdija, Coulibaly and Luka playing overseas before entering the league. I just don't get why people are so harsh to the kids in this class but overlooked production when it came to these other guys in past drafts. Anything to fit the narrative I guess.

Embiid, JJJ and Barnes are some of the strongest performing freshman analytically in the last 10 years. Stats draft guys were higher on them than consensus/eye test guys

[NatP4]

That might be the best worst list of examples you could possibly come up with for an argument against production/stats.

Jokic was MVP in the Adriatic league. Avdija was the youngest MVP in Israeli league history. Luka was youngest MVP in Euroleague history. Coulibaly put up solid numbers in the French league, monster numbers at the junior level.

[SelfishPlayer]

I read people overreacting to young prospects not having NBA level three point shots yet, and they say untrue things like all defenders have to do is sag off of them and they are totally neutralized destroying their offense. That's false when you can do what Ron Holland can do at the 8:38 mark of this video

Watch on YouTube

When they sag off of you, you drive to the basket downhill on them like as if you're in transtion. Isaiah Collier can do the same thing.

[RyugaFan]

Kyshawn George getting drafted in the first round will be the first time I can recall a freshman role player getting drafted that high. He does things in college that role players do in the NBA because they are restricted from doing more and typically displayed a greater variety of ability at some point in the past. Kyshawn George was literally a role player in college and didn't produce very much. He shot the magic 40% from three, and passes the ball well off the dribble, but it's scary projecting a 7.6 ppg freshman as a first round pick. This used to be reserved for the international guys relegated to bench roles due to veterans taking priority. The University of Miami doesn't have a team filled with future professional basketball players.

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Ironically I think you can make a statistically based argument for Kyshawn George. Freshman/Sophomores with his size and shooting production have a really good hit rate in the NBA. Not to mention guys with his size + shooting + Ast%

He shot 40% from three, but it's not as if he shot them at high volumn and also was elite at the FT line. So much of his perceived first round value is based upon that magic 40% mark. If he simply shot 38% from 3 but averaged four more PPG I doubt people would be as high on him as they are now. I do like that he sees the floor well and can surely get the ball into the hands of the more talented players in the NBA. He has really good length for the perimeter but he lacks vertical explosion. He appears to never attack the rim in the halfcourt.

I get the volume argument but there are factors that go into PPG that are outside a player's ability. He was an unknown call up from overseas, wasn't promised anything, wasn't expected to do anything, played behind 5 different guys who wanted more shots, and played within hismelf.

[SelfishPlayer]

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Ironically I think you can make a statistically based argument for Kyshawn George. Freshman/Sophomores with his size and shooting production have a really good hit rate in the NBA. Not to mention guys with his size + shooting + Ast%

He shot 40% from three, but it's not as if he shot them at high volumn and also was elite at the FT line. So much of his perceived first round value is based upon that magic 40% mark. If he simply shot 38% from 3 but averaged four more PPG I doubt people would be as high on him as they are now. I do like that he sees the floor well and can surely get the ball into the hands of the more talented players in the NBA. He has really good length for the perimeter but he lacks vertical explosion. He appears to never attack the rim in the halfcourt.

I get the volume argument but there are factors that go into PPG that are outside a player's ability. He was an unknown call up from overseas, wasn't promised anything, wasn't expected to do anything, played behind 5 different guys who wanted more shots, and played within hismelf.

That's what concerns me, that there isn't much there. If it weren't for him shooting 40% from three, there wouldn't be any justifiable reason for anyone to be discussing his NBA stock. There are tons of college freshmen that performed to the same level that have length, marginal athleticism, but perhaps shot 37% or 38% from three, no one would be discussing them.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Kyshawn George getting drafted in the first round will be the first time I can recall a freshman role player getting drafted that high. He does things in college that role players do in the NBA because they are restricted from doing more and typically displayed a greater variety of ability at some point in the past. Kyshawn George was literally a role player in college and didn't produce very much. He shot the magic 40% from three, and passes the ball well off the dribble, but it's scary projecting a 7.6 ppg freshman as a first round pick. This used to be reserved for the international guys relegated to bench roles due to veterans taking priority. The University of Miami doesn't have a team filled with future professional basketball players.

but it actually does have guys that have NBA aspirations, both of whom were getting draft buzz and a coach that was prioritizing them in Mathew Cleveland and Wooga Poplar. This is similar to what happens to most players when they go the NBL or play overseas. You can't evaluate prospects like these using stats and production and that's where so many here and in the media fail when it comes to this class since it's loaded with more examples like this than normal. You had Dillingham and Sheppard playing backup to Wagner. NBL guys all backups if playing at all. Furphy backed up Elmarko Jackson for first 1/4 of the season. Ignite was a wreck and made evaluating its players much harder. McCain was prevented from playing much PG. Castle didn't play PG like he could have. Cody Williams was injured all season with one thing or another.

It is just requiring a different manner of evaluation and people don't seem quite up to it imho, mostly because of their reliance on stats and production which should be the last thing you should care about tbh. Go look at the production for Embiid at Kansas, Bam at Kentucky, JJJ at MSU, Barnes at FSU and international guys like Jokic, Giannis Avdija, Coulibaly and Luka playing overseas before entering the league. I just don't get why people are so harsh to the kids in this class but overlooked production when it came to these other guys in past drafts. Anything to fit the narrative I guess.

Embiid, JJJ and Barnes are some of the strongest performing freshman analytically in the last 10 years. Stats draft guys were higher on them than consensus/eye test guys

they had underwhelming production and nobody would have cared (and probably didn't back when Embiid and JJJ were playing since evaluators weren't obsessed with advanced stats like they are now) about their analytics if not for the fact that they all possess elite, translatable physical and athletic traits. They were really starting to go overboard with advanced stats when Barnes came out but loved Barnes mostly because he was a 6'8" wing with a near 7'3" WS that had ball skills and played great defense.

[FarBeyondDriven]

That might be the best worst list of examples you could possibly come up with for an argument against production/stats.

Jokic was MVP in the Adriatic league. Avdija was the youngest MVP in Israeli league history. Luka was youngest MVP in Euroleague history. Coulibaly put up solid numbers in the French league, monster numbers at the junior level.

lol the Israeli league. Notice how you ignored how in two years in the tougher Euroleague Avdija averaged 4-2-1. But talent evaluators looked past the Euroleague production and evaluated him on his size, length, and athleticism. They gave him the benefit of the doubt and didn't hold it against him that he wasn't playing and producing much in the tougher league. Unlike what they're doing with this draft class' players.

The Adriatic League was a joke when Jokic played and is still not strong. His production and MVP therefore aren't as impressive. He was fat and lacked athleticism and went in the 2nd round of the draft

Luka shot 31% from three and was a poor FT shooter but nobody held that against him like they seem to be doing with Topic who also shot 31%. Topic's shooting (or lack thereof) is the most cited reason for pessimism and is used to disparage him and cast doubt but it wasn't a concern for Doncic. Another example of kids in this class being treated differently than in past draft classes and all to further a narrative.

Coulibaly averaged 5-3-1 with LNB Pro A. But scouts were willing to look past his production and evaluate him based on his physical and athletic traits and he was considered a really good prospect in a supposedly strong draft class yet a similar talent from this class with poor production like Coulibaly are bums and this class is weak.

[RyugaFan]

He shot 40% from three, but it's not as if he shot them at high volumn and also was elite at the FT line. So much of his perceived first round value is based upon that magic 40% mark. If he simply shot 38% from 3 but averaged four more PPG I doubt people would be as high on him as they are now. I do like that he sees the floor well and can surely get the ball into the hands of the more talented players in the NBA. He has really good length for the perimeter but he lacks vertical explosion. He appears to never attack the rim in the halfcourt.

I get the volume argument but there are factors that go into PPG that are outside a player's ability. He was an unknown call up from overseas, wasn't promised anything, wasn't expected to do anything, played behind 5 different guys who wanted more shots, and played within hismelf.

That's what concerns me, that there isn't much there. If it weren't for him shooting 40% from three, there wouldn't be any justifiable reason for anyone to be discussing his NBA stock. There are tons of college freshmen that performed to the same level that have length, marginal athleticism, but perhaps shot 37% or 38% from three, no one would be discussing them.

I tested your hypothesis. Ran all the freshman who were at least 6'6, had at least 100 attempts and shot 35%. The top 4 are Furphy, Momcilovic, Kyshawn and Cam Christie, the rest were mid majors. https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?link=y&sIndex=53&minGP=15&min3P=0.35&minht=78&minthreepa=100&yvalue=Fr&year=all&start=-11101&end=all0501

So even when hamstringing Kyshawn's numbers, it's an elite group of NBA prospects.

[The Moose]

but it actually does have guys that have NBA aspirations, both of whom were getting draft buzz and a coach that was prioritizing them in Mathew Cleveland and Wooga Poplar. This is similar to what happens to most players when they go the NBL or play overseas. You can't evaluate prospects like these using stats and production and that's where so many here and in the media fail when it comes to this class since it's loaded with more examples like this than normal. You had Dillingham and Sheppard playing backup to Wagner. NBL guys all backups if playing at all. Furphy backed up Elmarko Jackson for first 1/4 of the season. Ignite was a wreck and made evaluating its players much harder. McCain was prevented from playing much PG. Castle didn't play PG like he could have. Cody Williams was injured all season with one thing or another.

It is just requiring a different manner of evaluation and people don't seem quite up to it imho, mostly because of their reliance on stats and production which should be the last thing you should care about tbh. Go look at the production for Embiid at Kansas, Bam at Kentucky, JJJ at MSU, Barnes at FSU and international guys like Jokic, Giannis Avdija, Coulibaly and Luka playing overseas before entering the league. I just don't get why people are so harsh to the kids in this class but overlooked production when it came to these other guys in past drafts. Anything to fit the narrative I guess.

Embiid, JJJ and Barnes are some of the strongest performing freshman analytically in the last 10 years. Stats draft guys were higher on them than consensus/eye test guys

they had underwhelming production and nobody would have cared (and probably didn't back when Embiid and JJJ were playing since evaluators weren't obsessed with advanced stats like they are now) about their analytics if not for the fact that they all possess elite, translatable physical and athletic traits. They were really starting to go overboard with advanced stats when Barnes came out but loved Barnes mostly because he was a 6'8" wing with a near 7'3" WS that had ball skills and played great defense.

Yeah, no. They were outliers analytically due to their production, the idea they didn't produce when on the court is not based in reality. Embiid and JJJ both had 10+ BPM as freshman, this is elite freshman box score productivity, and historically a very, very strong indicator of NBA success.
I mean there were literally stat draft guys saying JJJ was one of the best prospects in recent years based off his freshman production. You are correct in saying the elite physical traits in combination with elite advanced numbers helps to solidify peoples thoughts.

As for Barnes, he was a 6'8 wing with a 7+ BPM (11 BPM vs t100 teams), 30+ AST%, positive A:TO and elite STOCKS, any decent draft model would have him ranked in top 5 based on that production.

The only freshmen in this class who are actually anywhere near the production level of the guys you listed are Sheppard and McCain.

If you want to talk about guys who actually had garbage production/poor analytic measures but some elite physical traits (which is more in line with a lot of the freshman/internationals the mainstream is pushing in this class), you should've used examples like Jaylen Brown, Jaden McDaniels, Dejounte Murray or Zach Lavine. These are some of the few guys who actually overcame their awful pre-draft production

[SelfishPlayer]

I get the volume argument but there are factors that go into PPG that are outside a player's ability. He was an unknown call up from overseas, wasn't promised anything, wasn't expected to do anything, played behind 5 different guys who wanted more shots, and played within hismelf.

That's what concerns me, that there isn't much there. If it weren't for him shooting 40% from three, there wouldn't be any justifiable reason for anyone to be discussing his NBA stock. There are tons of college freshmen that performed to the same level that have length, marginal athleticism, but perhaps shot 37% or 38% from three, no one would be discussing them.

I tested your hypothesis. Ran all the freshman who were at least 6'6, had at least 100 attempts and shot 35%. The top 4 are Furphy, Momcilovic, Kyshawn and Cam Christie, the rest were mid majors. https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?link=y&sIndex=53&minGP=15&min3P=0.35&minht=78&minthreepa=100&yvalue=Fr&year=all&start=-11101&end=all0501

So even when hamstringing Kyshawn's numbers, it's an elite group of NBA prospects.

I think you'll need to adjust some things, 38% will be fine but 100 threes is significant for a freshman so let's reduce it to 80 attempts. The amount Isaiah Collier had. Kyshawn only had 190 field goal attempts, 130 of those were three points attempts. That's an absurd percentage of field goal attempts being threes.