Jonas Valanciunas

Dr Positivity · Post #261 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu May 12, 2011 7:56 pm

Looks like a 10-14 pick now which is where he should've been all year

Though, some of the guys ahead of him are just ugly picks. Ford put Kawhi Leonard at #5 last update. Yikes.

Darknemo2000 · Post #262 » by **Darknemo2000** » Tue May 17, 2011 1:08 pm

Aldridge ranked Valanciunas as first between this years bigs in the draft, but of course he does not dwell into the contract buyout which will decrease his value in the draft one way or another.

Here are a few more highlight videos. Mostly highlights so - dunks and blocks throughout the two seasons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLa5yFCF ... re=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYAiv2EO ... re=related

Grits n Gravy · Post #263 » by **Grits n Gravy** » Tue May 17, 2011 7:03 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dp7QN2K7g4[/youtube]

Steely Reserve · Post #264 » by **Steely Reserve** » Tue May 17, 2011 7:50 pm

Dude will be the best player in the draft in four years. If GMs let this guy fall to the Cavs second lottery pick ... OH BOY... these mothaf*ckers really are as stupid as I already think they are.

Cavs get Knight + Valanciunas... its OVA!!

brassviews · Post #265 » by **brassviews** » Tue May 17, 2011 7:55 pm

Look at that extension.......

Steely Reserve · Post #266 » by **Steely Reserve** » Tue May 17, 2011 8:10 pm

brassviews wrote:Look at that extension.......

Dude is 18, playing in a pro league making plays like that.... and popele really saying he's not a top-3 lock???

C'mon people, lets take a step back from ESPN and DX... form your own judgment. Dude is a better prospect than Derrick Williams. Not going into detail, but the reasons should be obvious.

OGSactownballer · Post #267 » by **OGSactownballer** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:25 pm

I would absolutely LOVE if he is there at #7 for the Kings. I can't see Petrie passing him because buyout or no we are in a great position to be NON-dependent on a lotto pick right now so taking him just makes great sense.

The Beam King · Post #268 » by **The Beam King** » Wed May 18, 2011 1:31 pm

kiwi_adam wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dp7QN2K7g4[/youtube]

Looks like Spencer Hawes with a motor.

brassviews · Post #269 » by **brassviews** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:45 pm

At this point, I think he falls in draft (due to contract) or withdraws and vies for the first pick next year. I'm leaning towards him withdrawing. I get the impression that he's not interested in NBA right now.

karolis1221 · Post #270 » by **karolis1221** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:54 pm

Steely Reserve wrote:Dude will be the best player in the draft in four years. If GMs let this guy fall to the Cavs second lottery pick ... OH BOY... these mothaf*ckers really are as stupid as I already think they are.

Cavs get Knight + Valanciunas... its OVA!!

Irving+ Valanciunas or Kanter sounds way better.

Darknemo2000 · Post #271 » by **Darknemo2000** » Wed May 18, 2011 7:50 pm

Well Valanciunas would suit really well with Irving, as Irving can do pick'n'rolls really well and Valanciunas body is made to pick'n'roll.

Kanter isnt as good at that element but he is more universal, has better skills and his body is developed enough to leave impact straight away (yet he also comes with lower ceiling).

Dr Positivity · Post #272 » by **Dr Positivity** » Wed May 18, 2011 9:45 pm

I don't see him as a top 15 guy if he has a 2 year wait to come to the NBA.

Kaner · Post #273 » by **Kaner** » Wed May 18, 2011 10:06 pm

karolis1221 wrote:
Steely Reserve wrote:Dude will be the best player in the draft in four years. If GMs let this guy fall to the Cavs second lottery pick ... OH BOY... these mothaf*ckers really are as stupid as I already think they are.

Cavs get Knight + Valanciunas... its OVA!!

Irving+ Valanciunas or Kanter sounds way better.

SERIOUSLY! I can't believe someone just suggested taking Brandon fukin Knight over Irving and Williams with #1 :lol:

tidho · Post #274 » by **tidho** » Thu May 19, 2011 12:52 pm

brassviews wrote:At this point, I think he falls in draft (due to contract) or withdraws and vies for the first pick next year. I'm leaning towards him withdrawing. I get the impression that he's not interested in NBA right now.

Maybe he changes his mind, but his agent indicated they understood the value of being in this draft class (given that it appears thinner than most) even if he wasn't going to play next season.

I'd have no problem with the Cavaliers taking him 4th even if he isn't coming over for a year. Its probably a lock out shortened season, so let him get his work in Europe another year. Gilbert will have no problem buying out the deal when the time is right.

karolis1221 · Post #275 » by **karolis1221** » Thu May 19, 2011 6:29 pm

brassviews wrote:At this point, I think he falls in draft (due to contract) or withdraws and vies for the first pick next year. I'm leaning towards him withdrawing. I get the impression that he's not interested in NBA right now.

im sure he is interested in NBA rookie salary when in europe he gets 80.000 Eur for season

brassviews · Post #276 » by **brassviews** » Thu May 19, 2011 7:01 pm

karolis1221 wrote:
brassviews wrote:At this point, I think he falls in draft (due to contract) or withdraws and vies for the first pick next year. I'm leaning towards him withdrawing. I get the impression that he's not interested in NBA right now.

im sure he is interested in NBA rookie salary when in europe he gets 80.000 Eur for season

He has no interest in sitting on the bench his first year. He's said something like this already. Whether he participates in the draft or not will depend on his projected role in NBA. In my opinion, I think he will withdraw.

tidho · Post #277 » by **tidho** » Thu May 19, 2011 7:24 pm

Just because you get drafted doesn't mean you have to come over. If he wants he can stay in Europe next year even if there isn't a lock out, then come over for 2012/13.

Getting picked 4th this year is better than 10th next.

Dr Positivity · Post #278 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu May 19, 2011 7:29 pm

I could see a team like the Wizards guaranteeing Jonas at #18 and being OK with him playing out his contract in Europe, or 2 years of it.

The Wiz are a good fit because the #18 pick is a luxury for them out of smart cap management and they're in full rebuild mode. Fans won't really care about not getting that rookie when they're bringing in the #6 guy and are still in Wall excitement mode.

I don't think a team like the Bucks, Bobcats, Warriors, Knicks, etc. being interested. There's just too much pressure to get an impact rookie for them to get a guy they'll have to wait 2 years for and who might not even be good by that point either. Pacers and Sixers likewise want a guy who can get them in the playoffs this year

karolis1221 · Post #279 » by **karolis1221** » Thu May 19, 2011 8:04 pm

His Team today lost national champ finals and they dont play in Euroleague next year... Staying in Europe for 1 or 2 more years only for bulking up and wasting his oportunity to improve his skills overseas is lame in my opinion. He can get his 10-15 min of play time here which is same as he gets now...

Pablonis · Post #280 » by **Pablonis** » Thu May 19, 2011 9:40 pm

Rytas will play in the qualifiers during the late pre-season and will most certainly (knocking through Ukrainian and Latvian champs ain't exactly a tough job) advance to the main Euroleague tournament.