Jaden Ivey

[EMG518]

Lotta dudes said this kid was a bum. I wasn't one of them. They are eatin crow now.

Wasn't the general consensus that he should go 4th after Jabari, Chet, and Paolo.

[Big J]

Lotta dudes said this kid was a bum. I wasn't one of them. They are eatin crow now.

Wasn't the general consensus that he should go 4th after Jabari, Chet, and Paolo.

Yea, I was referring to specific people here who were hating on the kid.

[youOK]

Lotta dudes said this kid was a bum. I wasn't one of them. They are eatin crow now.

Wasn't the general consensus that he should go 4th after Jabari, Chet, and Paolo.

Yea, I was referring to specific people here who were hating on the kid.

I think Ivey will be good and I was hoping he would fall to the Pacers but I think its premature to say he's not a bust after just one game. From what I've seen of him so far he's really flashed at times and shown some superstar potential but also had some poor outings.

[MotownMadness]

Can see Ivey becoming my favorite Piston. Kid is just so explosive getting to the rim.

He's gotta learn to control his athleticism better after he gets past that first man but it will come with time.

[Big J]

Can see Ivey becoming my favorite Piston. Kid is just so explosive getting to the rim.

He's gotta learn to control his athleticism better after he gets past that first man but it will come with time.

Kid could be the next DRose. I could see him being the alpha on this Pistons team.

[Big J]

9 dimes tonight. I was told he wasn't a lead guard. They weren't familiar with this kid's game.

[BostonCouchGM]

just re: the whole Ivey position thing

Givony was on Zach Lowe's podcast post draft, and he said Ivey is very self aware, and was telling teams that he isn't a point guard and doesn't expect to be a point guard.

The Cade/Ivey fit has a chance to be so harmonious

positions don't matter. Guys at every position run offenses around the league. It's about who is initiating the action at the top of the key and Ivey will be doing that a hell of a lot even potentially more than Cade. It's because his first step is elite which puts pressure on the bigs in PnR when they switch. In that regard, if Cade wasn't there, Ivey WOULD be the defacto "PG" initiating the offense. That's when he's at his best. I kinda think the fit with Cade isn't really optimal tbh since they both need the ball and neither are as good off as on. But I think he was too talented to pass up so they took him regardless and will worry about fit later. Kinda like how they took Cade even though they had just taken Hayes the previous draft. They badly need Cade to get his three ball % up for this to work out.

Interesting. On a roll lately. If I’m DET I’m building around Ivey not Cade

[The Moose]

just re: the whole Ivey position thing

Givony was on Zach Lowe's podcast post draft, and he said Ivey is very self aware, and was telling teams that he isn't a point guard and doesn't expect to be a point guard.

The Cade/Ivey fit has a chance to be so harmonious

positions don't matter. Guys at every position run offenses around the league. It's about who is initiating the action at the top of the key and Ivey will be doing that a hell of a lot even potentially more than Cade. It's because his first step is elite which puts pressure on the bigs in PnR when they switch. In that regard, if Cade wasn't there, Ivey WOULD be the defacto "PG" initiating the offense. That's when he's at his best. I kinda think the fit with Cade isn't really optimal tbh since they both need the ball and neither are as good off as on. But I think he was too talented to pass up so they took him regardless and will worry about fit later. Kinda like how they took Cade even though they had just taken Hayes the previous draft. They badly need Cade to get his three ball % up for this to work out.

Interesting. On a roll lately. If I’m DET I’m building around Ivey not Cade

Cade is still initiating most of the offense, though I agree theres a chance that Ivey ends up being the lead initiator, and Cade shifts to a more off ball role.

Cade always looks his best when he attacks as a scorer firstly and opens up his playmaking as a secondary.
Too often he is just passive in the name of getting others involved, and I think his floor general/passing ability is a bit overrated at this point.

Ivey looks like a lock to be a 20+ ppg guy fairly early in his career imo