2024 NBA Draft Thread

[FarBeyondDriven]

Clingan going 1 would be so crazy. But I think the smoke is growing and growing there and I am not going to be surprised if it happens.

I hope it happens.

It's funny he has so much hype. All I see is Zubac 2.0

probably a better defender, passer and prospect overall but maybe not by much so yeah, odd that he's being supposedly considered near the top of the draft

[CoreyVillains]

Had a good time breaking down film with PJ Hall. Not the sexiest prospect but think he’s going to be a really solid pro. Smart, charismatic, skilled, and can play both sides of the ball.

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[Chi town]

Clingan going 1 would be so crazy. But I think the smoke is growing and growing there and I am not going to be surprised if it happens.

I hope it happens.

It's funny he has so much hype. All I see is Zubac 2.0

probably a better defender, passer and prospect overall but maybe not by much so yeah, odd that he's being supposedly considered near the top of the draft

Been saying the same thing. Zubac

[FarBeyondDriven]

The more I watch film on the prospects, the more the 2024 draft is looking above average to good...

Alex Sarr - Bigger Jaren Jackson Jr.

Zaccharie Risacher - Brandon Ingram, 9ppg as a rookie but then became a 23ppg scorer

Donovan Clingan - Marc Gasol, DPOY with a dependable jumpshot and high IQ

Cody Williams - Khris Middleton, not specials but solid #2

Rob Dillingham and Reed Sheppard had disappointing combine numbers but could be some where near Trae Young or Brunson.

gonna put you down for Tier 4.5 in the draft strength prediction thread unless you object

[FarBeyondDriven]

This aint the year hoping for a high end pick haha. That kicks back up again in the next two drafts when Flagg/Bailey and AJ/Boozer enter the draft.

I have a feeling we are going to see 5+ guys being mentioned as favorites to go #1 throughout the year. And its not going to be because there will be 5+ guys that look to be franchise guys.

what is a "franchise guy"? A superstar? How many of those are there in the NBA currently? 15 or so? Since 2000 only a little more than half the draft classes have had a consensus "franchise" player at the top. Does it matter that most of the time the media and scouts deem someone a franchise player that they not only not end up being that but there are often players taken well after them that end up having better careers that do become actual franchise players? Doesn't this mean their designation as a franchise player means little and shouldn't be used as a means to decide a draft class' strength? Reading through this thread you and Clyde seem convinced it's a weak class. I think it's mostly based on you believing it's a bad high school class? And for some reason discounting international talent? Was Wembanyama and Coulibaly discounted when you two said last year's class was strong? I have read some push back and some people cautioning patience as it's too early which seems prudent. I want to know what you're seeing that I'm not, that makes you convinced it's a weak class two games into the college season let alone making you feel certain about this for over a year now.

Well yes for most classes the high school class is a very good way to get a good read on the quality of a draft class because the majority of the talent comes from the OAD players. The majority of the lotto and the majority of the 1st round are OAD players from the high school class most years.

And yes you factor in the over seas guys. I say this is a weak class because this high school class has struggled to have any high level prospects come forward over the last couple years. And the fact that a guy like Sarr isnt considered a lock to be the #1 pick over the high school class shows to me he also isnt viewed any higher than them. Ive also stated hundreds of times on here that I dont know anything about over seas guys, I dont watch them and I leave it up to the national media guys and the guys on here that watch them to say whatever about them.

So if you think Sarr should be considered a high level prospect for a top 3 pick for any draft, cool. You think Risacher should be viewed as a high level top 3 pick for any pick? Awesome. I consider this a weak class (when it comes to high level talent) because of the high school class and college returnees have not shown to be guys that should be considered great value as top 5 picks. And the fact that a guy like Ron Holland is one of the early favorites to be the #1 pick just backs my point.

Is it still early and still plenty of time for guys to show big time improvement and look the part? Of course its November and I dont think the obvious needs to be said. But as of right now, no the domestic group of players for this draft isnt looking good compared to most classes.

can I put you down for Tier 6 (Bad), Tier 7 (Very Bad) or Tier 8 (Among worst ever) in the 2024 draft strength prediction thread?

[bucknut]

Had a good time breaking down film with PJ Hall. Not the sexiest prospect but think he’s going to be a really solid pro. Smart, charismatic, skilled, and can play both sides of the ball.

Watch on YouTube

Man his game fits this 5 out offense and heavy pick and pop era as good as anyone. He has a sneaky fadeaway too that is NBA level good. Actually don't know why he couldn't be a bobby portis type player.

[babyjax13]

Kind of hoping Dillingham drops to Minnesota, that seems like the best possible environment with him with Gobert's defense and Conley's mentorship.

[SelfishPlayer]

PJ Hall is a bit strange because he has 30% usage for three straight seasons and averages more turnovers than assists. No NBA team will allow him to have the unlimited amount of dribbles he took in the post. So it comes down to his shooting and dunking ability. He's not very good at either.

[shangrila]

Kind of hoping Dillingham drops to Minnesota, that seems like the best possible environment with him with Gobert's defense and Conley's mentorship.

I don't.

And this isn't personal but I never understand this kind of thought process. The whole "put a guy who plays no defence on a defensive team to cover that up". We saw in this playoffs, and specifically with Minnesota, that guys that can't compete defensively get hunted. You can try to hide them but they will get found and one weak link in the chain can destroy a defence, because then the rest of the team is flying around in recovery and it's chaos.

And the above is a big reason why I don't see it at all with Dillingham. His offence isn't at the transcendent level where you can justify the defensive shortcomings, nor do I see any potential for him on that end with his physical tools. I expect him to have a Brandon Jennings career; explode a few times early on and make everyone think he's a steal before fading into irrelevance.

[165bows]

PJ Hall is a bit strange because he has 30% usage for three straight seasons and averages more turnovers than assists. No NBA team will allow him to have the unlimited amount of dribbles he took in the post. So it comes down to his shooting and dunking ability. He's not very good at either.

Same, kind of soured on him as a second round guy. Plus he basically admitted he got worked by Jaedon Ledee’s physicality in a draft workout recently which didn’t seem like the brightest move.

[CoreyVillains]

Harrison was a lot of fun to break down film with. Wish the efficiency was better but I love his passing and his body transformation this year has been awesome.

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[Klomp]

Harrison was a lot of fun to break down film with. Wish the efficiency was better but I love his passing and his body transformation this year has been awesome.

Am I crazy to think he could be a solid choice for Minnesota if they largely run it back? May need someone to fill the Kyle Anderson role.

[Klomp]

Kind of hoping Dillingham drops to Minnesota, that seems like the best possible environment with him with Gobert's defense and Conley's mentorship.

Yeah that doesn't seem to be what Connelly likes to do....that's more like how Utah was building its roster around Gobert.

[CoreyVillains]

Harrison was a lot of fun to break down film with. Wish the efficiency was better but I love his passing and his body transformation this year has been awesome.

Am I crazy to think he could be a solid choice for Minnesota if they largely run it back? May need someone to fill the Kyle Anderson role.

I think Minnesota would be an awesome fit. Think the Kyle Anderson role is a great blueprint for him to follow.

[Klomp]

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Fun fact: I just learned that Corey (on the left side of the three-shot) is a longtime poster here on RealGM.

[babyjax13]

Kind of hoping Dillingham drops to Minnesota, that seems like the best possible environment with him with Gobert's defense and Conley's mentorship.

Yeah that doesn't seem to be what Connelly likes to do....that's more like how Utah was building its roster around Gobert.

Utah built a team that had no defense other than Gobert. If a guy elevates your team and is in turn elevated by its strengths, I think that is a good fit. I could see Dillingham taking a tumble -- would he really be that bad of a gamble for Minnesota? If his scoring and playmaking pop he'd be a potential long-term answer as a starting point guard - will there be anyone else at that point in the draft who would be?

[JustBuzzin]

Can someone explain why Charlotte would select Reed Sheppard?

He's been getting a lot of buzz with us as a possible trade up option and I just don't see the fit.

[azcatz11]

Can someone explain why Charlotte would select Reed Sheppard?

He's been getting a lot of buzz with us as a possible trade up option and I just don't see the fit.

BPA?

On a somewhat related note, everyone is talking about Devin Carter now. I'm kind of buying the hype now also:

- Elite Defender
- 6'9 wingspan
- 37% on 3's so he can shoot

You think he's going top 5?

[Klomp]

Can someone explain why Charlotte would select Reed Sheppard?

He's been getting a lot of buzz with us as a possible trade up option and I just don't see the fit.

Lower half of the league in 3-point volume and efficiency

[JustBuzzin]

Can someone explain why Charlotte would select Reed Sheppard?

He's been getting a lot of buzz with us as a possible trade up option and I just don't see the fit.

BPA?

On a somewhat related note, everyone is talking about Devin Carter now. I'm kind of buying the hype now also:

- Elite Defender
- 6'9 wingspan
- 37% on 3's so he can shoot

You think he's going top 5?

We traded Rozier who was a undersized SG. Our roster already has multiple undersized SG's with Mann/NSJ. I just don't see the value of adding another undersized SG.

Carter I would be shocked if he goes top 5. Maybe the Spurs consider him, but I don't see any of the top 5 teams taking Carter.