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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2641 » by babyjax13 » Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:13 am

azcatz11 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Can someone explain why Charlotte would select Reed Sheppard?

He's been getting a lot of buzz with us as a possible trade up option and I just don't see the fit.


BPA?

On a somewhat related note, everyone is talking about Devin Carter now. I'm kind of buying the hype now also:

- Elite Defender
- 6'9 wingspan
- 37% on 3's so he can shoot

You think he's going top 5?

Issue is, below average three point shooter, first good shooting season, strange form. I'm curious if the shot translates at all. Also doesn't feel like a game manager. I feel like the best case scenario is a worse shooting Jalen Suggs.
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Post#2642 » by OriAr » Sun Jun 23, 2024 2:31 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Can someone explain why Charlotte would select Reed Sheppard?

He's been getting a lot of buzz with us as a possible trade up option and I just don't see the fit.


BPA?

On a somewhat related note, everyone is talking about Devin Carter now. I'm kind of buying the hype now also:

- Elite Defender
- 6'9 wingspan
- 37% on 3's so he can shoot

You think he's going top 5?

Issue is, below average three point shooter, first good shooting season, strange form. I'm curious if the shot translates at all. Also doesn't feel like a game manager. I feel like the best case scenario is a worse shooting Jalen Suggs.

For what it's worth I've heard he's been shooting lights out in workouts.
If the shot is real then I think he'll be a very good player, Jalen Suggs/Josh Hart hybrid is the closest comparison I have for him now.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2643 » by Cammo101 » Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:10 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Can someone explain why Charlotte would select Reed Sheppard?

He's been getting a lot of buzz with us as a possible trade up option and I just don't see the fit.


BPA?

On a somewhat related note, everyone is talking about Devin Carter now. I'm kind of buying the hype now also:

- Elite Defender
- 6'9 wingspan
- 37% on 3's so he can shoot

You think he's going top 5?

Issue is, below average three point shooter, first good shooting season, strange form. I'm curious if the shot translates at all. Also doesn't feel like a game manager. I feel like the best case scenario is a worse shooting Jalen Suggs.


Not sure what metric you are using to determine Sheppard is a below average three point shooter when pretty much everything points to him being one of the elite shooters in this draft.
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Post#2644 » by Colbinii » Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:12 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
BPA?

On a somewhat related note, everyone is talking about Devin Carter now. I'm kind of buying the hype now also:

- Elite Defender
- 6'9 wingspan
- 37% on 3's so he can shoot

You think he's going top 5?

Issue is, below average three point shooter, first good shooting season, strange form. I'm curious if the shot translates at all. Also doesn't feel like a game manager. I feel like the best case scenario is a worse shooting Jalen Suggs.


Not sure what metric you are using to determine Sheppard is a below average three point shooter when pretty much everything points to him being one of the elite shooters in this draft.


BabyJax is talking about Carter.
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Post#2645 » by bigboi » Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:09 pm

Horrible draft
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Post#2646 » by BlazersBroncos » Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:43 pm

Hot take of the day -

Clingan goes 4
Edey goes 9
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Post#2647 » by babyjax13 » Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:07 pm

I can't wait to see how bad my mock is, I think this draft is so flat that things are going to get really, really weird.
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Post#2648 » by Colbinii » Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:11 pm

babyjax13 wrote:I can't wait to see how bad my mock is, I think this draft is so flat that things are going to get really, really weird.


Something like Carlton Carrington or Rob Dillingham going #2 would be interesting.
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Post#2649 » by clyde21 » Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:23 pm

babyjax13 wrote:I can't wait to see how bad my mock is, I think this draft is so flat that things are going to get really, really weird.


yea not even gonna bother doing a mock this year, probably the most wide open draft years even at the top
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Post#2650 » by Bornstellar » Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:00 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:Hot take of the day -

Clingan goes 4
Edey goes 9

Spurs burning the 4th pick on a backup C when their roster has plenty of other glaring holes seems unlikely. Unless you think they're trading the 4th pick, I don't see it happening
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Post#2651 » by BlazersBroncos » Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:25 pm

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BlazersBroncos wrote:Hot take of the day -

Clingan goes 4
Edey goes 9

Spurs burning the 4th pick on a backup C when their roster has plenty of other glaring holes seems unlikely. Unless you think they're trading the 4th pick, I don't see it happening


PF - Victor Wembanyama (10) / Jeremy Sochan (28) / Small Ball PF (10)
C - Donovan Clingan (28) / Victor Wembanyama (20)

I think Pops could make it work. I am of mind that SAS needs to keep Victor's minutes in the 30 range for the duration of his career (Until the PO's) as the percentages are against him re injury and you just need to minimize his wear and tear. Allowing Clingan to take the majority of the bumps and bruises during the RS is another unique + to drafting him. Alot is about protecting the Victor investment, but you also get the best rim protection in the league for 48 minutes.

Clingan is a dog. He would immediatley be the 'enforcer' for Victor, wouldnt require many touches, and if the stars align your looking at a PNR with Vic handling and Clingan finishing. That would be absurd.

Victor would close many games with Donovan on the bench, but on the other hand having both on the court to close against guys like Joker and Embiid would be huge.

I just think this draft is such a crap shoot, why not gamble on a pairing that, if it works, would be absolutely devastating. At worse your getting a guy to keep Victor upright during the RS.

4 - Donovan Clingan C
8 - Rob Dillingham PG

Then trade Zach Collins + 35 to move up to into the high 20's (To PHX for Little + 22?) and draft Furphy for more shooting.

Offer a deal to Pat Williams to be a 3/D guy.
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Post#2652 » by Bornstellar » Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:49 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
Bornstellar wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:Hot take of the day -

Clingan goes 4
Edey goes 9

Spurs burning the 4th pick on a backup C when their roster has plenty of other glaring holes seems unlikely. Unless you think they're trading the 4th pick, I don't see it happening


PF - Victor Wembanyama (10) / Jeremy Sochan (28) / Small Ball PF (10)
C - Donovan Clingan (28) / Victor Wembanyama (20)

I think Pops could make it work. I am of mind that SAS needs to keep Victor's minutes in the 30 range for the duration of his career (Until the PO's) as the percentages are against him re injury and you just need to minimize his wear and tear. Allowing Clingan to take the majority of the bumps and bruises during the RS is another unique + to drafting him. Alot is about protecting the Victor investment, but you also get the best rim protection in the league for 48 minutes.

Clingan is a dog. He would immediatley be the 'enforcer' for Victor, wouldnt require many touches, and if the stars align your looking at a PNR with Vic handling and Clingan finishing. That would be absurd.

Victor would close many games with Donovan on the bench, but on the other hand having both on the court to close against guys like Joker and Embiid would be huge.

I just think this draft is such a crap shoot, why not gamble on a pairing that, if it works, would be absolutely devastating. At worse your getting a guy to keep Victor upright during the RS.

4 - Donovan Clingan C
8 - Rob Dillingham PG

Then trade Zach Collins + 35 to move up to into the high 20's (To PHX for Little + 22?) and draft Furphy for more shooting.

Offer a deal to Pat Williams to be a 3/D guy.

Playing Victor at 4 is not ideal and I think last season proved that he is not a PF, he is a C. He is best served anchoring the defense and playing as a big, not a PF imo. Maybe if you have a mobile 3 point shooting big like Turner it can work but any traditional C would force Wemby to play out of position.
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Post#2653 » by toooskies » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:20 pm

If I'm SAS and want a 2nd big, I'd probably trade down and look at Edey or Missi (or Ware/Filipowski/Holmes) in the mid-1st.

#4 for POR's #7 and #14? Take the best guard and wing at #7 and #8 (say, Knecht and Dillingham), then a big at #14.

Maybe put their 2nds together and try to trade up to #30 or so for Dunn.
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Post#2654 » by Klomp » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:54 pm

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babyjax13 wrote:Kind of hoping Dillingham drops to Minnesota, that seems like the best possible environment with him with Gobert's defense and Conley's mentorship.

Yeah that doesn't seem to be what Connelly likes to do....that's more like how Utah was building its roster around Gobert.

Utah built a team that had no defense other than Gobert. If a guy elevates your team and is in turn elevated by its strengths, I think that is a good fit. I could see Dillingham taking a tumble -- would he really be that bad of a gamble for Minnesota? If his scoring and playmaking pop he'd be a potential long-term answer as a starting point guard - will there be anyone else at that point in the draft who would be?

I'm not sure why, but I see his best-case scenario as maybe Jeff Teague. We've seen that already here and it doesn't excite me. I'd rather add a wing role player who might lack the upside over locking ourselves in on a PG who probably wouldn't take us anywhere.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#2655 » by babyjax13 » Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:01 pm

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Klomp wrote:Yeah that doesn't seem to be what Connelly likes to do....that's more like how Utah was building its roster around Gobert.

Utah built a team that had no defense other than Gobert. If a guy elevates your team and is in turn elevated by its strengths, I think that is a good fit. I could see Dillingham taking a tumble -- would he really be that bad of a gamble for Minnesota? If his scoring and playmaking pop he'd be a potential long-term answer as a starting point guard - will there be anyone else at that point in the draft who would be?

I'm not sure why, but I see his best-case scenario as maybe Jeff Teague. We've seen that already here and it doesn't excite me. I'd rather add a wing role player who might lack the upside over locking ourselves in on a PG who probably wouldn't take us anywhere.

I see something between prime Aaron Brooks and Kemba Walker as his upside, so a bit better than Teague but certainly not some all-NBA caliber player. But a Jeff Teague caliber guy at 26 would be a MASSIVE win for Minnesota. It doesn't matter at that point if he is a long-term answer at starting point guard, that means you have someone off the bench who would be better than probably every other bench point guard. Minnesota Jeff Teague was def. not the best version of him.
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Post#2656 » by Big J » Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:05 pm

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babyjax13 wrote:I can't wait to see how bad my mock is, I think this draft is so flat that things are going to get really, really weird.


yea not even gonna bother doing a mock this year, probably the most wide open draft years even at the top


The Anthony Bennett year's top was gaped wider than a 2 bit whore's ****.
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Post#2657 » by SelfishPlayer » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:01 am

I'm looking at Tyler Kolek's freshman stats. He led his team in assists (no surprise) at only 2.3 apg while playing 30.7 mpg. Did he improve mightely after transferring schools? Is he just a system player? He shot .320 from the field his sophomore season. Is he benefitting from strength training and being an older college player competing against younger guys?
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Post#2658 » by Colbinii » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:22 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:I'm looking at Tyler Kolek's freshman stats. He led his team in assists (no surprise) at only 2.3 apg while playing 30.7 mpg. Did he improve mightely after transferring schools? Is he just a system player? He shot .320 from the field his sophomore season. Is he benefitting from strength training and being an older college player competing against younger guys?


So Kolek transferred from a smaller conference to bigger. He played 3 years in the SAME SYSTEM under Shaka Smart in Marquette.
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Post#2659 » by SelfishPlayer » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:41 am

Oso Ighodaro is very interesting. He's a great athlete and has a really good feel for the game with his passing ability But I don't think that he will overcome his lack of shooting and short standing reach. The Warriors could probably get a great deal out of him pretty early.
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Post#2660 » by Threezus » Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:54 am

Im gonna be honest going into this draft and listening to everyone say how bad it is. After watching alot more film and cracking down on quite a few players. I really don't dislike this draft as much as i thought i would and think quite a few of the guys can be pretty good players at the next level. I think where this draft does really well is the depth of good to above avg players but no elite prospects. Their might not be 1 truly elite can't miss prospect at 1 or 2 but i can see any of the top 15 guys as good as most drafts top 5 to 8 guys.

Might be a really good draft to have 2 picks in the top 10 to 15 like the spurs have or try to get back into the late lottery if possible.

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