Temetrius "Ja" Morant

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Iv'e come to the conclusion some team could fall in love with this kid enough to take him at #1.

i'd love to see the GM with the balls enough to pass on Zion

well it's happened in the past where the best prospect was passed on, but yeah pretty unlikely, but to me is somewhat reasonable if PHO or CHI has the 1. They'd probably consider trying to trade down 1 spot to pick up assets but ultimately passing on Zion would require them to get a haul for trading down.

I can’t think of a time when the consensus #1 was passed on. Fultz comes closest, but he didn’t have nearly the hold on the top spot that Zion does.

[clyde21]

i'd love to see the GM with the balls enough to pass on Zion

well it's happened in the past where the best prospect was passed on, but yeah pretty unlikely, but to me is somewhat reasonable if PHO or CHI has the 1. They'd probably consider trying to trade down 1 spot to pick up assets but ultimately passing on Zion would require them to get a haul for trading down.

I can’t think of a time when the consensus #1 was passed on. Fultz comes closest, but he didn’t have nearly the hold on the top spot that Zion does.

yea, won't happen. even IF someone wants Ja over Zion (crazy talk), they'd trade out of #1 to do so. you know how many people would love to move up for Zion?

[Stillwater]

i'd love to see the GM with the balls enough to pass on Zion

well it's happened in the past where the best prospect was passed on, but yeah pretty unlikely, but to me is somewhat reasonable if PHO or CHI has the 1. They'd probably consider trying to trade down 1 spot to pick up assets but ultimately passing on Zion would require them to get a haul for trading down.

I can’t think of a time when the consensus #1 was passed on. Fultz comes closest, but he didn’t have nearly the hold on the top spot that Zion does.

Yeah consensus #1 rarely if ever, but there have been several occasions where the best prospect wasn't taken at #1. Depends on just how much separation Zion holds on anyone else. there is basically no legit argument to pass on him, but CHI and PHO have good enough front courts and hurting bad enough for a Ja type, that the window opens a little bit for a trade scenario. The only concern anyone would likely have with Zion is durability/longevity with that size and athleticism, aside from that anyone who considered passing on him without getting a massive asset haul probably wouldn't.
back to my org. post; it wouldn't surprise me if some team falls in Love with Ja enough to take him at #1, even if they don't pull the trigger because they'd lose their job.

[bennjuiced34]

No team is passing on Zion at 1. Regardless of need. He's far and away the best prospect in the draft. That said, if a GM were to pass on Zion said GM should be fired into the sun.

If it is close for some teams right now, Zion will separate himself in workouts and interviews.

[prime1time]

Wouldn't be surprised if a team like Phoenix heavily considers Morant.

[SBM]

I think he is a little overstated, not saying he will bust but I also don't see a 5x all-star or think he is worthy of the hype.

[GimmeDat]

There are issues with the Chicago fit, but I will be very happy with the Bulls draft outcome if they land at 3 and are able to select Ja. The passing ability is something we could really do with at the PG spot, and he'll have plenty of room to drive with the spacing that Lavine, Porter, Markkanen, and hopefully WCJ with improved range next season allow. The mediocre shooting is a shortcoming I'd be willing to compromise for (though obviously you hope he improves) given our spacing, though better off-ball utility as his career progresses would be ideal because we do play with multiple ball-handlers with all of L-O-L initiating offense and Carter being able to function as a facilitating hub. I think the biggest issue is defense, he's going to need a totally different approach in the pro's, and especially alongside Lavine we can't afford a liability. I think Jim Boylen will be a good coach for him, he's a pretty hard-nosed guy that will make him earn his minutes by playing the right way.

[916fan]

There are issues with the Chicago fit, but I will be very happy with the Bulls draft outcome if they land at 3 and are able to select Ja. The passing ability is something we could really do with at the PG spot, and he'll have plenty of room to drive with the spacing that Lavine, Porter, Markkanen, and hopefully WCJ with improved range next season allow. The mediocre shooting is a shortcoming I'd be willing to compromise for (though obviously you hope he improves) given our spacing, though better off-ball utility as his career progresses would be ideal because we do play with multiple ball-handlers with all of L-O-L initiating offense and Carter being able to function as a facilitating hub. I think the biggest issue is defense, he's going to need a totally different approach in the pro's, and especially alongside Lavine we can't afford a liability. I think Jim Boylen will be a good coach for him, he's a pretty hard-nosed guy that will make him earn his minutes by playing the right way.

I think he would be a very good fit with the Bulls. Defense is the only problem I can think of. The offense would be very dynamic with Morant-LaVine-Markkanen and a solid/good complimentary pieces in Porter Jr and WCJ.

Who would you see as the Bulls' franchise player moving forward? Did WCJ's play before injury meet up to expectations? I'm surprised he barely attempted any 3s.

[clyde21]

youd have to move Lavine at some point if u get Ja

[Illmatic12]

Wouldn't be surprised if a team like Phoenix heavily considers Morant.

I think they need to draft a PF .
You can't expect a rookie PG like Morant to come in and turn things around. At a certain point you have to many young guys and none of them will develop properly without guidance

[Illmatic12]

youd have to move Lavine at some point if u get Ja

Why?
Lavine is a significantly more valuable archetype than Ja in the modern NBA . People think Morant will be better than Lavine is now?

[clyde21]

youd have to move Lavine at some point if u get Ja

Why?
Lavine is a significantly more valuable archetype than Ja in the modern NBA . People think Morant will be better than Lavine is now?

because they are a terrible fit together

[King Ken]

youd have to move Lavine at some point if u get Ja

Why?
Lavine is a significantly more valuable archetype than Ja in the modern NBA . People think Morant will be better than Lavine is now?

because they are a terrible fit together

And Morant is way more valuable than LaVine as well.

[King Ken]

Wouldn't be surprised if a team like Phoenix heavily considers Morant.

I think they need to draft a PF .
You can't expect a rookie PG like Morant to come in and turn things around. At a certain point you have to many young guys and none of them will develop properly without guidance

They clearly need a creative PG.

[Illmatic12]

youd have to move Lavine at some point if u get Ja

Why?
Lavine is a significantly more valuable archetype than Ja in the modern NBA . People think Morant will be better than Lavine is now?

because they are a terrible fit together

I would rather flip Morant for a vet PG in that case. Ja + filler for Jrue Holiday
If I'm Chicago I am not moving Lavine with the kind of potential he's showing , plus he is on a bargain contract.

Wouldn't be surprised if a team like Phoenix heavily considers Morant.

I think they need to draft a PF .
You can't expect a rookie PG like Morant to come in and turn things around. At a certain point you have to many young guys and none of them will develop properly without guidance

They clearly need a creative PG.

Then you trade Morant for Holiday, or maybe for Conley + Grizz pick
The last thing PHX needs is another young kid coming in there trying to dominate the ball and get his numbers.

[clyde21]

Why?
Lavine is a significantly more valuable archetype than Ja in the modern NBA . People think Morant will be better than Lavine is now?

because they are a terrible fit together

I would rather flip Morant for a vet PG in that case. Ja + filler for Jrue Holiday
If I'm Chicago I am not moving Lavine with the kind of potential he's showing , plus he is on a bargain contract.

I think they need to draft a PF .
You can't expect a rookie PG like Morant to come in and turn things around. At a certain point you have to many young guys and none of them will develop properly without guidance

They clearly need a creative PG.

Then you trade Morant for Holiday, or maybe for Conley + Grizz pick
The last thing PHX needs is another young kid coming in there trying to dominate the ball and get his numbers.

why would you draft Morant just to flip him? in that case just go in another direction and get a PG in the 2nd...maybe a Hagans, Obiesie or Lecque.

[King Ken]

Why?
Lavine is a significantly more valuable archetype than Ja in the modern NBA . People think Morant will be better than Lavine is now?

because they are a terrible fit together

I would rather flip Morant for a vet PG in that case. Ja + filler for Jrue Holiday
If I'm Chicago I am not moving Lavine with the kind of potential he's showing , plus he is on a bargain contract.

I think they need to draft a PF .
You can't expect a rookie PG like Morant to come in and turn things around. At a certain point you have to many young guys and none of them will develop properly without guidance

They clearly need a creative PG.

Then you trade Morant for Holiday, or maybe for Conley + Grizz pick
The last thing PHX needs is another young kid coming in there trying to dominate the ball and get his numbers.

If I am the Bulls, I would take Conley and Grizz pick over Morant. No question about it especially if Memphis is willing to take Fallcio. But do the Grizzlies want Morant that bad?

I don't see the Pels wanting to move Holiday

[Illmatic12]

because they are a terrible fit together

I would rather flip Morant for a vet PG in that case. Ja + filler for Jrue Holiday
If I'm Chicago I am not moving Lavine with the kind of potential he's showing , plus he is on a bargain contract.

They clearly need a creative PG.

Then you trade Morant for Holiday, or maybe for Conley + Grizz pick
The last thing PHX needs is another young kid coming in there trying to dominate the ball and get his numbers.

why would you draft Morant just to flip him? in that case just go in another direction and get a PG in the 2nd...maybe a Hagans, Obiesie or Lecque.

Draft day trades happen all the time. If Ja is available at their pick, they can agree in principle to a deal before the draft.

Assuming PHX doesn't get Zion, there's really no other prospect in the top 5 of much use to them. Barrett is a horrible fit with Booker , and they have too many wings to take on the Cam Reddish project. The best move would be trading the pick for a proven PG

[King Ken]

I would rather flip Morant for a vet PG in that case. Ja + filler for Jrue Holiday
If I'm Chicago I am not moving Lavine with the kind of potential he's showing , plus he is on a bargain contract.


Then you trade Morant for Holiday, or maybe for Conley + Grizz pick
The last thing PHX needs is another young kid coming in there trying to dominate the ball and get his numbers.

why would you draft Morant just to flip him? in that case just go in another direction and get a PG in the 2nd...maybe a Hagans, Obiesie or Lecque.

Draft day trades happen all the time. If Ja is available at their pick, they can agree in principle to a deal before the draft.

Assuming PHX doesn't get Zion, there's really no other prospect in the top 5 of much use to them. Barrett is a horrible fit with Booker , and they have too many wings to take on the Cam Reddish project. The best move would be trading the pick for a proven PG

Darius Garland is available. They might value him just as highly.

Unless a team like the Knicks get Morant, I don't see Morant trade value being that high. The reason why the Hawks got so much for Luka is before, there was no alternative for Dallas. They valued Luka and JJJ and both were going to be gone by 5. They had to move up. If PHX is at 5, I think they will take Garland. But the issue is went both are gone when PHX is in trouble as the PF position isn't that strong in this class and they need a PG with where FA is weak. PHX might be willing to sell a major asset to land Morant or Garland.

[clyde21]

I would rather flip Morant for a vet PG in that case. Ja + filler for Jrue Holiday
If I'm Chicago I am not moving Lavine with the kind of potential he's showing , plus he is on a bargain contract.


Then you trade Morant for Holiday, or maybe for Conley + Grizz pick
The last thing PHX needs is another young kid coming in there trying to dominate the ball and get his numbers.

why would you draft Morant just to flip him? in that case just go in another direction and get a PG in the 2nd...maybe a Hagans, Obiesie or Lecque.

Draft day trades happen all the time. If Ja is available at their pick, they can agree in principle to a deal before the draft.

Assuming PHX doesn't get Zion, there's really no other prospect in the top 5 of much use to them. Barrett is a horrible fit with Booker , and they have too many wings to take on the Cam Reddish project. The best move would be trading the pick for a proven PG

if they get a good deal for him sure, but if they really like Ja and like his fit with Markkanen and Carter, they should take him and Lavine shouldn't stand in the way of that