Paolo Banchero

CptCrunch · Post #281 » by **CptCrunch** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:30 pm

Paolo's game today is why I have him clearly above Jabari Smith as a prospect.

Paolo just has a different gear to him in terms of impacting the game. When his shot isn't falling, he can play make for his team and initiate offense as a secondary playmaker. For a player his size, he is near the top decile in play making abilities. You just don't see many 6'10" players with advanced offensive games combed together with good handles and vision.

(To boot, Duke's PG department is filled with NBA quality secondary playmakers, which in a way deflates every one's stats when they share the rock on offense. Moore, Roach, Keels, Banchero are all going to be in the NBA as secondary playmakers to some degree. Coach K being completely senile doesn't help with basketball in general, next year with Scheyer and that mega class, Duke will be Dangerous)

Jabari Smith's likely case is a Rashard Lewis, high end case is a Klay at 6'10" height. I see very little chances that he develops into a play maker. Jabari simply is years away from such roles on the off chances he can improve his handles and vision.

BostonCouchGM · Post #282 » by **BostonCouchGM** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:54 pm

his shot looks broken. He's still so talented he can contribute in other ways but I've only considered him elite with the assumption that he could be at least an average 3 pt shooter like he showed early on. It's hard for me to put him over Chet and Smith given how important shooting is in the NBA.

Big J · Post #283 » by **Big J** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:32 am

How do you pronounce this kids last name, I've heard it both Bankero & Bankedo.

elias808 · Post #284 » by **elias808** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:36 am

Big J wrote:How do you pronounce this kids last name, I've heard it both Bankero & Bankedo.

I believe ban-ke-ro with a slight roll of the tongue. I'm no linguistics dude tho.

SeattleJazzFan · Post #285 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:15 pm

Big J wrote:How do you pronounce this kids last name, I've heard it both Bankero & Bankedo.

depends on if you want to say it with an english accent or an italian accent. iow, they are both right.

SelfishPlayer · Post #286 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:19 am

CptCrunch wrote:Paolo's game today is why I have him clearly above Jabari Smith as a prospect.

Paolo just has a different gear to him in terms of impacting the game. When his shot isn't falling, he can play make for his team and initiate offense as a secondary playmaker. For a player his size, he is near the top decile in play making abilities. You just don't see many 6'10" players with advanced offensive games combed together with good handles and vision.

(To boot, Duke's PG department is filled with NBA quality secondary playmakers, which in a way deflates every one's stats when they share the rock on offense. Moore, Roach, Keels, Banchero are all going to be in the NBA as secondary playmakers to some degree. Coach K being completely senile doesn't help with basketball in general, next year with Scheyer and that mega class, Duke will be Dangerous)

Jabari Smith's likely case is a Rashard Lewis, high end case is a Klay at 6'10" height. I see very little chances that he develops into a play maker. Jabari simply is years away from such roles on the off chances he can improve his handles and vision.

Yeah but is he truly good enough to warrant putting the ball in his hands as a playmaker? You are simultaneously taking the ball out of someone's hands. It sounds like a bad recipe to hide him in a lineup as a non shooter, ordinary finisher.

SeattleJazzFan · Post #287 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:47 pm

Banchero is a pretty special passer for as young as he is - in the NBA he’ll get more opportunity to showcase that part of his game and he’ll start putting up really solid assist numbers.

He has solid mechanics on his jumper, but seems to need a tweak to get the kinks worked out and get it to where it’s consistently the same every time.

I’ve been up and down on him over the course of the season (even compared him to Jabari Parker at one point - ouch!), but ultimately, I think I’m bullish on him. My gut really likes him as a prospect even if my head disagrees at times.

Madhouse · Post #288 » by **Madhouse** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:02 pm

He will be an Allstar and a 2/3 option on a championship team. I think he is a safer pick than Ivey but would not pick him ahead of Jabari.

CptCrunch · Post #289 » by **CptCrunch** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:13 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:
CptCrunch wrote:Paolo's game today is why I have him clearly above Jabari Smith as a prospect.

Paolo just has a different gear to him in terms of impacting the game. When his shot isn't falling, he can play make for his team and initiate offense as a secondary playmaker. For a player his size, he is near the top decile in play making abilities. You just don't see many 6'10" players with advanced offensive games combed together with good handles and vision.

(To boot, Duke's PG department is filled with NBA quality secondary playmakers, which in a way deflates every one's stats when they share the rock on offense. Moore, Roach, Keels, Banchero are all going to be in the NBA as secondary playmakers to some degree. Coach K being completely senile doesn't help with basketball in general, next year with Scheyer and that mega class, Duke will be Dangerous)

Jabari Smith's likely case is a Rashard Lewis, high end case is a Klay at 6'10" height. I see very little chances that he develops into a play maker. Jabari simply is years away from such roles on the off chances he can improve his handles and vision.

Yeah but is he truly good enough to warrant putting the ball in his hands as a playmaker? You are simultaneously taking the ball out of someone's hands. It sounds like a bad recipe to hide him in a lineup as a non shooter, ordinary finisher.

Just because player has elite passing skills for his size doesn't mean he needs to initiate offense. High passing IQ players tend to make better secondary passes in the offense, unlikely a certain other prospect known for their blackhole status on offense

clyde21 · Post #290 » by **clyde21** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:47 pm

CptCrunch wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
CptCrunch wrote:Paolo's game today is why I have him clearly above Jabari Smith as a prospect.

Paolo just has a different gear to him in terms of impacting the game. When his shot isn't falling, he can play make for his team and initiate offense as a secondary playmaker. For a player his size, he is near the top decile in play making abilities. You just don't see many 6'10" players with advanced offensive games combed together with good handles and vision.

(To boot, Duke's PG department is filled with NBA quality secondary playmakers, which in a way deflates every one's stats when they share the rock on offense. Moore, Roach, Keels, Banchero are all going to be in the NBA as secondary playmakers to some degree. Coach K being completely senile doesn't help with basketball in general, next year with Scheyer and that mega class, Duke will be Dangerous)

Jabari Smith's likely case is a Rashard Lewis, high end case is a Klay at 6'10" height. I see very little chances that he develops into a play maker. Jabari simply is years away from such roles on the off chances he can improve his handles and vision.

Yeah but is he truly good enough to warrant putting the ball in his hands as a playmaker? You are simultaneously taking the ball out of someone's hands. It sounds like a bad recipe to hide him in a lineup as a non shooter, ordinary finisher.

Just because player has elite passing skills for his size doesn't mean he needs to initiate offense. High passing IQ players tend to make better secondary passes in the offense, unlikely a certain other prospect known for their blackhole status on offense

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PoundTown · Post #291 » by **PoundTown** » Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:08 pm

He’s kinda like the middle ground between a Michael Beasley and a Blake griffin. Think he is going to be a very solid pro, possibly a good 2nd or at least third option.

reanimator · Post #292 » by **reanimator** » Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:23 pm

If he does not improve from 3, what is a viable path to constructing a contending roster with him on it?

eminence · Post #293 » by **eminence** » Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:49 pm

It'd be easy next to a stretch 5, and there still some rosters that make it work with 2 guys who aren't good shooters from deep (CLE/GS).

Big J · Post #294 » by **Big J** » Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:07 am

Paolo as a prospect just feels kinda blah. Nothing about his game is very exciting and he doesn't have that high end tantalizing potential that other guys have. On top of that his D stinks.

Almost Retired · Post #295 » by **Almost Retired** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:46 am

Big J wrote:Paolo as a prospect just feels kinda blah. Nothing about his game is very exciting and he doesn't have that high end tantalizing potential that other guys have. On top of that his D stinks.

He is the best of a mediocre draft. I think he will go Number 1. Followed by Jabari Smith. I'd probably take Keegan Murray #3. Ivey was exposed against St. Peter's tonight. He can dribble fast. Like Westbrook. But if he gets a guy on him that can stay in front of him his handles get shaky and so does his decision making. And overall he's just an average shooter. He might go top 5 in this draft. But I don't expect stardom from him. So Banchero will go Number 1...by default if nothing else.

CptCrunch · Post #296 » by **CptCrunch** » Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:33 am

Almost Retired wrote:
Big J wrote:Paolo as a prospect just feels kinda blah. Nothing about his game is very exciting and he doesn't have that high end tantalizing potential that other guys have. On top of that his D stinks.

He is the best of a mediocre draft. I think he will go Number 1. Followed by Jabari Smith. I'd probably take Keegan Murray #3. Ivey was exposed against St. Peter's tonight. He can dribble fast. Like Westbrook. But if he gets a guy on him that can stay in front of him his handles get shaky and so does his decision making. And overall he's just an average shooter. He might go top 5 in this draft. But I don't expect stardom from him. So Banchero will go Number 1...by default if nothing else.

Sucking the least is a legitimate reason to go first in a weak draft like this one.

clyde21 · Post #297 » by **clyde21** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:03 pm

looks big as hell

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namlede · Post #298 » by **namlede** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:57 pm

This guy has the potential to be a great post scorer as well as a perimeter scorer and pnr scorer/playmaker. He should be in serious consideration for #1 with Chet.

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CptCrunch · Post #299 » by **CptCrunch** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:12 pm

Good to have this thread back instead of posting all Paolo messages in the one starting with a false premise (Paolo is bad, convince me otherwise).

Paolo Banchero is the clear choice for #1 right now. Any other choice is a giant mistake.

kdthunderup · Post #300 » by **kdthunderup** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:39 am

As a Thunder fan who has spent time watching full game highlights from the top 3 consensus prospects this is who I have as my preference.

1. Chet
2. Jabari
3. Paolo

As a prospect I think Paolo has a lot of skill and will likely be ROTY but I have concerns around his fit in the modern NBA and limitations he may cause to roster construction later down the road.

IMO Paolo at his best will be an average defender. He doesn't have the best footwork on the perimeter and gets blown by some average athletes quick regularly. He also doesn't possess great instincts and weak side help defense. These are both attributes you need to defend the 4 at a high level in the NBA. I can see NBA teams picking him apart in the PnR if they can get switches on to him. He also lacks the size to be an effective rim protector if you want to move him to the Center spot later in his career. He was lucky he had Mark Williams backing him up most of the time as a rim protector.

His shot is ok but looks kind of broken to me. Shot the 3 terribly from anywhere but the corners. Doesn't seem like the type of guy that will make stretch the floor and make NBA defenses compromise.

You looks at all the playoff teams that made a deep run this season and they all had bigs who could either defend on the perimeter and/or great help side defensive instincts (Draymond, Wiggins, Williams III, Adebayo, Horford etc)

To me Chet and Jabari both might lack some of the shot creation that Paolo has but will fit more seamlessly into an NBA roster and less likely be played off the floor in the playoffs. Both have great defensive attributes for their position and have better jump shots.

I see Paolo turning into what Randle did in his prime season with New York which is an all-star calibre player - but he ultimately has he flaws that I see inhibiting him from making being a main contributor on a team that makes a deep playoff run.