Cooper Flagg - Duke

[clyde21]

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[SeattleJazzFan]

for all the hype flagg has gotten over the last couple years, i'm not confident he has the shooting/scoring chops to be a superstar in the nba. the one thing every nba superstar has in common is that they are elite scorers. maybe flagg has that potential, but there is a good chance he doesn't.

if it turns out he's limited by an inability to shoot/score, i think any team drafting #1 has to ask themselves if it's worth it to take a guy first overall whose ceiling limited like that. especially with ace bailey sitting there.

either way, i'm a big cooper flagg fan and can't wait to see what he does at duke. praying he's able to flash some of the scoring chops necessary to be great.

[Big J]

Doesn’t it just feel like he’s going to end up on the Jazz? He’s got the look of a Jazz player.

[MemphisX]

for all the hype flagg has gotten over the last couple years, i'm not confident he has the shooting/scoring chops to be a superstar in the nba. the one thing every nba superstar has in common is that they are elite scorers. maybe flagg has that potential, but there is a good chance he doesn't.

if it turns out he's limited by an inability to shoot/score, i think any team drafting #1 has to ask themselves if it's worth it to take a guy first overall whose ceiling limited like that. especially with ace bailey sitting there.

either way, i'm a big cooper flagg fan and can't wait to see what he does at duke. praying he's able to flash some of the scoring chops necessary to be great.

He is so young, it is hard to put a cap on what he will be in the future. He has made big strides in the last year offensively.

[Colbinii]

for all the hype flagg has gotten over the last couple years, i'm not confident he has the shooting/scoring chops to be a superstar in the nba. the one thing every nba superstar has in common is that they are elite scorers. maybe flagg has that potential, but there is a good chance he doesn't.

if it turns out he's limited by an inability to shoot/score, i think any team drafting #1 has to ask themselves if it's worth it to take a guy first overall whose ceiling limited like that. especially with ace bailey sitting there.

either way, i'm a big cooper flagg fan and can't wait to see what he does at duke. praying he's able to flash some of the scoring chops necessary to be great.

His shot already looks more fluid and polished than it did last year.

I don't really see a reason to question his ceiling when we should instead be looking at and dissecting all his tools.

I guess that's me as an optimist for every prospect rather than a pessimist like a majority of this board. I like to look at players [and then prospects] as what they could do based on their tools and work from that baseline, rather than start with the things a player can't do.

Think about it like coaching [if you have ever coached]. When you are given a team of players, you are trying to identity their strengths, their tools so to speak. What can these players do. What can the team do. This applies to sports and your corporate day job. As a manager, you are focused on identifying what your team can do.

This whole ideology in sport(s) where people focus on what players can't do has never made any sense to me. "Oh Anthony Black can't score". "Oh Paolo Banchero can't defend". "Oh Anthony Edwards can't find a shot he doesn't like". Like who cares, even now, about players weaknesses when they can do so much good on the court?

Remember, Michael Jordan fell to the 3rd pick because he couldn't defend Centers. Couldn't couldn't couldn't. Who cares?

[azcatz11]

This kid is something else. Looks like a man amongst boys against Kentucky and gets to the rim at will. I can’t imagine how good and how much stronger he will be when he is like 23.

[SeattleJazzFan]

for all the hype flagg has gotten over the last couple years, i'm not confident he has the shooting/scoring chops to be a superstar in the nba. the one thing every nba superstar has in common is that they are elite scorers. maybe flagg has that potential, but there is a good chance he doesn't.

if it turns out he's limited by an inability to shoot/score, i think any team drafting #1 has to ask themselves if it's worth it to take a guy first overall whose ceiling limited like that. especially with ace bailey sitting there.

either way, i'm a big cooper flagg fan and can't wait to see what he does at duke. praying he's able to flash some of the scoring chops necessary to be great.

His shot already looks more fluid and polished than it did last year.

I don't really see a reason to question his ceiling when we should instead be looking at and dissecting all his tools.

I guess that's me as an optimist for every prospect rather than a pessimist like a majority of this board. I like to look at players [and then prospects] as what they could do based on their tools and work from that baseline, rather than start with the things a player can't do.

Think about it like coaching [if you have ever coached]. When you are given a team of players, you are trying to identity their strengths, their tools so to speak. What can these players do. What can the team do. This applies to sports and your corporate day job. As a manager, you are focused on identifying what your team can do.

This whole ideology in sport(s) where people focus on what players can't do has never made any sense to me. "Oh Anthony Black can't score". "Oh Paolo Banchero can't defend". "Oh Anthony Edwards can't find a shot he doesn't like". Like who cares, even now, about players weaknesses when they can do so much good on the court?

Remember, Michael Jordan fell to the 3rd pick because he couldn't defend Centers. Couldn't couldn't couldn't. Who cares?

you're preaching to the choir, but the ability to shoot/score for a franchise player is just that essential. ben simmons coming out of LSU was pretty much elite at every aspect of basketball - focusing on that one thing he couldn't do actually made sense and we're seeing it now over the course of his career.

I am not saying Flagg is Simmons (he flashed some of the scoring chops last night he needs to continue to show) - just saying that sometimes acknowledging what a player can't do is prudent.

[NYPiston]

I know he turned the ball over twice down the stretch but he is absolutely the real deal. He looked like an NBA player playing college ball. Honestly, one of the most impressive debuts (against a real school) that I've seen in a long time.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I'm sticking with my prediction of Banchero with all-defensive team potential until further notice. That's a perennial all-NBA player and he'll get MVP votes down the road. With his looks and temperament he's going to be box office. He's a franchise altering talent.

[johannking]

His build and handle reminds me of Paul George, but Flagg seems to love contact and obviously lacks the range on his shot atm

Edit: Tatum's movement should be the comparison

[johannking]

I'm sticking with my prediction of Banchero with all-defensive team potential until further notice. That's a perennial all-NBA player and he'll get MVP votes down the road. With his looks and temperament he's going to be box office. He's a franchise altering talent.

Playstyle wise Flagg does play like Banchero. Not sure if he can bang and truck through defenders the same way as Flagg is clearly more slight in build.

[FarBeyondDriven]

we've reach that point in the season where people are ignoring context and hating on the kid and elevating those around him. Knew it was coming. I'll admit, playing for that buffoon Jon Scheyer is not doing him any favors but it's understandable why kids choose Duke given its history and being on TV so much. So far I've heard Bailey, Harper and Demin brought up as guys that should go over him. Who else will people throw out there? Johnson, Traore, or Riley?

[BigGargamel]

we've reach that point in the season where people are ignoring context and hating on the kid and elevating those around him. Knew it was coming. I'll admit, playing for that buffoon Jon Scheyer is not doing him any favors but it's understandable why kids choose Duke given its history and being on TV so much. So far I've heard Bailey, Harper and Demin brought up as guys that should go over him. Who else will people throw out there? Johnson, Traore, or Riley?

It's like there can only be one great player per class. Those guys mentioned are all off to very hot starts. Still don't bring as much to the table as Flagg does. News flash: there can be more than one All Star per class. This is a good year to have a top ten pick.

[JustBuzzin]

we've reach that point in the season where people are ignoring context and hating on the kid and elevating those around him. Knew it was coming. I'll admit, playing for that buffoon Jon Scheyer is not doing him any favors but it's understandable why kids choose Duke given its history and being on TV so much. So far I've heard Bailey, Harper and Demin brought up as guys that should go over him. Who else will people throw out there? Johnson, Traore, or Riley?

It's like there can only be one great player per class. Those guys mentioned are all off to very hot starts. Still don't bring as much to the table as Flagg does. News flash: there can be more than one All Star per class. This is a good year to have a top ten pick.

I take it you didn't watch the Kansas game?

You screaming what Flagg brings to the table, yet you had college basketball analysts gushing over Harper and saying Flagg is no longer a lock for the #1 pick.

Seems like you mad Flagg now has competition for that top spot. I have eyes and it's clear Harper brings just as much to the table as Flagg and it shows with his production.

[MemphisX]

The first thing I do when watching Flagg is remind myself he is 17. I think about how bad GG Jackson looked as the main option in college at 17 and how good he was 18 months later. Jaren Jackson was very good as a 17 year old and ended up being one of the youngest DPOY winners in NBA history. Do not overthink this for content.

[FarBeyondDriven]

we've reach that point in the season where people are ignoring context and hating on the kid and elevating those around him. Knew it was coming. I'll admit, playing for that buffoon Jon Scheyer is not doing him any favors but it's understandable why kids choose Duke given its history and being on TV so much. So far I've heard Bailey, Harper and Demin brought up as guys that should go over him. Who else will people throw out there? Johnson, Traore, or Riley?

It's like there can only be one great player per class. Those guys mentioned are all off to very hot starts. Still don't bring as much to the table as Flagg does. News flash: there can be more than one All Star per class. This is a good year to have a top ten pick.

I take it you didn't watch the Kansas game?

You screaming what Flagg brings to the table, yet you had college basketball analysts gushing over Harper and saying Flagg is no longer a lock for the #1 pick.

Seems like you mad Flagg now has competition for that top spot. I have eyes and it's clear Harper brings just as much to the table as Flagg and it shows with his production.

I never miss a Duke game. I couldn't care less what fraudulent "analysts" gush about or say. There's as much of a chance Harper goes #1 over Flagg as there was Scoot going #1 over Wemby.

I think you're discounting how box office Flagg is. Even if we pretend Harper is as good or better, he's just another point guard and the NBA is so loaded with them now, so much that quality ones recently drafted can't even see the floor. No team picking #1 is choosing a point guard over box office like Flagg. He'd need to be head and shoulders better.

Flagg is white, good looking, plays hard, is uber talented and is a two-way wing which there is a dearth of in the NBA. It's not happening. But that doesn't mean I won't see you pushing the narrative all over this board though so have at it. If it will negate some of the incessant Brandon Miller posts I'm all for it.

[TYO23]

First time I've seen a prospect looks and being white as a plus in this forum lol. It used to be about basketball

[JustBuzzin]

It's like there can only be one great player per class. Those guys mentioned are all off to very hot starts. Still don't bring as much to the table as Flagg does. News flash: there can be more than one All Star per class. This is a good year to have a top ten pick.

I take it you didn't watch the Kansas game?

You screaming what Flagg brings to the table, yet you had college basketball analysts gushing over Harper and saying Flagg is no longer a lock for the #1 pick.

Seems like you mad Flagg now has competition for that top spot. I have eyes and it's clear Harper brings just as much to the table as Flagg and it shows with his production.

I never miss a Duke game. I couldn't care less what fraudulent "analysts" gush about or say. There's as much of a chance Harper goes #1 over Flagg as there was Scoot going #1 over Wemby.

I think you're discounting how box office Flagg is. Even if we pretend Harper is as good or better, he's just another point guard and the NBA is so loaded with them now, so much that quality ones recently drafted can't even see the floor. No team picking #1 is choosing a point guard over box office like Flagg. He'd need to be head and shoulders better.

Flagg is white, good looking, plays hard, is uber talented and is a two-way wing which there is a dearth of in the NBA. It's not happening. But that doesn't mean I won't see you pushing the narrative all over this board though so have at it. If it will negate some of the incessant Brandon Miller posts I'm all for it.

I stopped reading after you said Flagg is white and good looking. That's just some weird stuff bro.

Enjoy your Thanksgiving I'm done.

[JustBuzzin]

First time I've seen a prospect looks and being white as a plus in this forum lol. It used to be about basketball

I can't believe he had the guts to hit submit. Might be the funniest thing I have seen on this board in a while.

[bigboi]

It's like there can only be one great player per class. Those guys mentioned are all off to very hot starts. Still don't bring as much to the table as Flagg does. News flash: there can be more than one All Star per class. This is a good year to have a top ten pick.

I take it you didn't watch the Kansas game?

You screaming what Flagg brings to the table, yet you had college basketball analysts gushing over Harper and saying Flagg is no longer a lock for the #1 pick.

Seems like you mad Flagg now has competition for that top spot. I have eyes and it's clear Harper brings just as much to the table as Flagg and it shows with his production.

I never miss a Duke game. I couldn't care less what fraudulent "analysts" gush about or say. There's as much of a chance Harper goes #1 over Flagg as there was Scoot going #1 over Wemby.

I think you're discounting how box office Flagg is. Even if we pretend Harper is as good or better, he's just another point guard and the NBA is so loaded with them now, so much that quality ones recently drafted can't even see the floor. No team picking #1 is choosing a point guard over box office like Flagg. He'd need to be head and shoulders better.

Flagg is white, good looking, plays hard, is uber talented and is a two-way wing which there is a dearth of in the NBA. It's not happening. But that doesn't mean I won't see you pushing the narrative all over this board though so have at it. If it will negate some of the incessant Brandon Miller posts I'm all for it.

You hyping that bum up because he’s white? You should be banned. He is trash. I’ve been saying the dude is not that good. He’s extremely inefficient. And he can’t anchor a defense so dude isn’t number 1.

Also the white thing, Luka and Jokic are both white yet ratings are still down and no one is clamoring to watch those two. Stick to talking about basketball rather than race and looks.