Stephon Castle

[JMAC3]

Who's a better prospect: Anthony Black or Castle?

I think pre-draft they are close. After seeing Black be a complete non-factor on offense this year that is basically the fear of what Castle might be, but we haven't seen it confirmed.

Therefore, I would rather have Castle because the chance he is much better than we think on offense still exists where I feel like Black already confirmed he is cheeks on that end of the floor.

[Telfaire]

I still think Charlotte makes the most sense for Castle.

Not sure why the PG issue is a big thing, we have Melo who is injury prone he will get his chance to play PG when Melo goes down. He could also be that secondary playmaker even when Melo is on the floor. He fits perfect with Melo/Miller imo.

I agree, but not sure he would be there at #6. Currently considering him as either 2nd to Washington (instead of Sarr), or 4th to the Spurs (instead of Topic, who could remain available at #8).

[Chuck Everett]

Black would have to change his mentality more to think offensively. Castle, if he's given the keys will go try and get buckets. He just plays the right way, so people assume he won't or can't do it.

[Hal14]

I still think Charlotte makes the most sense for Castle.

Not sure why the PG issue is a big thing, we have Melo who is injury prone he will get his chance to play PG when Melo goes down. He could also be that secondary playmaker even when Melo is on the floor. He fits perfect with Melo/Miller imo.

It's an issue for Castle because he wants to be THE franchise PG for the team that drafts him.

He said he himself as a PG< he wants to play PG and he won't workout for teams who have a PG in place. Ya;ll have Lamelo as the franchise PG.

Castle ain't going there..

[OriAr]

I still think Charlotte makes the most sense for Castle.

Not sure why the PG issue is a big thing, we have Melo who is injury prone he will get his chance to play PG when Melo goes down. He could also be that secondary playmaker even when Melo is on the floor. He fits perfect with Melo/Miller imo.

It's an issue for Castle because he wants to be THE franchise PG for the team that drafts him.

He said he himself as a PG< he wants to play PG and he won't workout for teams who have a PG in place. Ya;ll have Lamelo as the franchise PG.

Castle ain't going there..

He's not going anywhere to be the franchise PG.
The amount of defensive wings in college that came to the NBA and suddenly became PGs on year 1 is more or less empty, and if any teams runs Castle at point in year 1 it'll probably backfire.
If this is true, he's doing a huge mistake here.

[The-Power]

Castle ain't going there..

He'll go to whichever team drafts him.

[Hal14]

Castle ain't going there..

He'll go to whichever team drafts him.

But it makes no sense to draft a guy with a top 10 pick who doesn't want to be there, will be pissed off on that team, unhappy with his role, etc.

Especially when there will be other players on the board in that spot who actually want to be on your team and will be happy with their role..and you could make a strong case that Castle is not a top 6 prospect in this draft class, so why take that risk by taking him that high? Not worth it.

[Hal14]

I still think Charlotte makes the most sense for Castle.

Not sure why the PG issue is a big thing, we have Melo who is injury prone he will get his chance to play PG when Melo goes down. He could also be that secondary playmaker even when Melo is on the floor. He fits perfect with Melo/Miller imo.

It's an issue for Castle because he wants to be THE franchise PG for the team that drafts him.

He said he himself as a PG< he wants to play PG and he won't workout for teams who have a PG in place. Ya;ll have Lamelo as the franchise PG.

Castle ain't going there..

He's not going anywhere to be the franchise PG.
The amount of defensive wings in college that came to the NBA and suddenly became PGs on year 1 is more or less empty, and if any teams runs Castle at point in year 1 it'll probably backfire.
If this is true, he's doing a huge mistake here.

He could possibly be the franchise PG for spurs, wizards, bulls, Jazz..he's clearly trying to force his way to one of those teams.

Castle was in a unique situation this season at Uconn. 5 star recruit, arguably a top 5 freshman in the country, played exclusively PG in HS, played some at the 1 and some at the 2 for team USA at FIBA U18, but went to a college team that was the defending national champs (could have gone to like 50+ other schools and been the starting PG but was willing to play the wing and win a national championship).

[JustBuzzin]

I still think Charlotte makes the most sense for Castle.

Not sure why the PG issue is a big thing, we have Melo who is injury prone he will get his chance to play PG when Melo goes down. He could also be that secondary playmaker even when Melo is on the floor. He fits perfect with Melo/Miller imo.

It's an issue for Castle because he wants to be THE franchise PG for the team that drafts him.

He said he himself as a PG< he wants to play PG and he won't workout for teams who have a PG in place. Ya;ll have Lamelo as the franchise PG.

Castle ain't going there..

Bro think Castle words hold weight. He will be drafted even if he doesn't want to play for a particular team. If he was a can't miss prospect then maybe you would have a point.

Also he will have plenty of opportunity to play PG in Charlotte. Just so you know we have a injury prone PG in Melo. Castle will get his shot to play PG.

[The-Power]

Castle ain't going there..

He'll go to whichever team drafts him.

But it makes no sense to draft a guy with a top 10 pick who doesn't want to be there, will be pissed off on that team, unhappy with his role, etc.

He'll be fine. This is all just pre-draft antics. What do you think will happen if he's drafted to Charlotte? He'll pout or refuse to play hard? He'd be out of the league in no time, or at least lose out on a ton of money during the process of convincing another franchise he's worth any money. If he gets drafted to Charlotte he'll say that he's happy to be there, work his butt off, and play whatever role assigned to him. Guaranteed.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Castle ain't going there..

He'll go to whichever team drafts him.

But it makes no sense to draft a guy with a top 10 pick who doesn't want to be there, will be pissed off on that team, unhappy with his role, etc.

that isn't really a thing. who was the last rookie that was actually an issue for?

they go do whoever drafts them and they play hard for that team.

[BigGargamel]

He'll go to whichever team drafts him.

But it makes no sense to draft a guy with a top 10 pick who doesn't want to be there, will be pissed off on that team, unhappy with his role, etc.

that isn't really a thing. who was the last rookie that was actually an issue for?

they go do whoever drafts them and they play hard for that team.

Steve Francis almost 30 years ago. This is much ado about nothing. He may be trying to guide himself to a situation he prefers, but if Charlotte or Detroit drafts him, he's not going to sabotage his career.

[Hal14]

He'll go to whichever team drafts him.

But it makes no sense to draft a guy with a top 10 pick who doesn't want to be there, will be pissed off on that team, unhappy with his role, etc.

that isn't really a thing. who was the last rookie that was actually an issue for?

they go do whoever drafts them and they play hard for that team.

It is a thing. It just happened. It's been all over Twitter lately - Castle said in an interview that he had to sacrifice at UConn (not being able to play PG) but he doesn't want to do that in the NBA. He sees himself as a PG, he wants to play PG and is refusing workouts with teams who have a PG in place.

When was the last draft prospect who said something like that? It doesn't happen very often.

Prospects (or their agents) leaking certain information to the media, or just saying certain things privately to NBA teams (like for example pushing for a workout with a certain team, or refusing to workout for other teams) happens fairly often though..it doesn't always get reported..some of it is behind the scenes deals/conversations that happen. And some of this kind of stuff (players/agents doing stuff to get that player on a certain team or away from a different team) happens with veteran players (trades, free agency, etc.) in addition to just draft prospects.

Again, it's not worth the risk IMO to have a mess on your hands, to botch a top 10 draft pick..especially when there will be other good players available in that spot who are arguably as good or better than Castle..for example, Charlotte has the 6th pick but a strong argument could be made that Castle is (at best) the 7th best prospect in this draft..

[clyde21]

Castle ain't going there..

He'll go to whichever team drafts him.

But it makes no sense to draft a guy with a top 10 pick who doesn't want to be there, will be pissed off on that team, unhappy with his role, etc.

Especially when there will be other players on the board in that spot who actually want to be on your team and will be happy with their role..and you could make a strong case that Castle is not a top 6 prospect in this draft class, so why take that risk by taking him that high? Not worth it.

Steph didnt want to be drafted by the Warriors

rest is history

[Hal14]

He'll go to whichever team drafts him.

But it makes no sense to draft a guy with a top 10 pick who doesn't want to be there, will be pissed off on that team, unhappy with his role, etc.

Especially when there will be other players on the board in that spot who actually want to be on your team and will be happy with their role..and you could make a strong case that Castle is not a top 6 prospect in this draft class, so why take that risk by taking him that high? Not worth it.

Steph didnt want to be drafted by the Warriors

rest is history

Did he refuse to workout for them before the draft?

[clyde21]

But it makes no sense to draft a guy with a top 10 pick who doesn't want to be there, will be pissed off on that team, unhappy with his role, etc.

Especially when there will be other players on the board in that spot who actually want to be on your team and will be happy with their role..and you could make a strong case that Castle is not a top 6 prospect in this draft class, so why take that risk by taking him that high? Not worth it.

Steph didnt want to be drafted by the Warriors

rest is history

Did he refuse to workout for them before the draft?

yes, went full zero dark thirty mode on the warriors, also Monte Ellis publicly stated he didnt want the warriors to draft Curry.

warriors said **** you to both and still did.

[SeattleJazzFan]

But it makes no sense to draft a guy with a top 10 pick who doesn't want to be there, will be pissed off on that team, unhappy with his role, etc.

that isn't really a thing. who was the last rookie that was actually an issue for?

they go do whoever drafts them and they play hard for that team.

It is a thing. It just happened. It's been all over Twitter lately - Castle said in an interview that he had to sacrifice at UConn (not being able to play PG) but he doesn't want to do that in the NBA. He sees himself as a PG, he wants to play PG and is refusing workouts with teams who have a PG in place.

When was the last draft prospect who said something like that? It doesn't happen very often.

Prospects (or their agents) leaking certain information to the media, or just saying certain things privately to NBA teams (like for example pushing for a workout with a certain team, or refusing to workout for other teams) happens fairly often though..it doesn't always get reported..some of it is behind the scenes deals/conversations that happen. And some of this kind of stuff (players/agents doing stuff to get that player on a certain team or away from a different team) happens with veteran players (trades, free agency, etc.) in addition to just draft prospects.

Again, it's not worth the risk IMO to have a mess on your hands, to botch a top 10 draft pick..especially when there will be other good players available in that spot who are arguably as good or better than Castle..for example, Charlotte has the 6th pick but a strong argument could be made that Castle is (at best) the 7th best prospect in this draft..

maybe i need to explain myself further. he can say what he wants, but unless it affects the way he prepares, plays, practices, etc, it's not an issue. as i said, rookies go play for whoever drafts them and they play hard for that team. iow, it's not an issue. it's just words.

[EvanZ]

One thing I don't get yet is the Ringer having Castle #1 and Holland #13. Maybe I'm crazy but they don't seem too different in terms of prospects. Holland is bigger and maybe the better athlete.

[Hal14]

One thing I don't get yet is the Ringer having Castle #1 and Holland #13. Maybe I'm crazy but they don't seem too different in terms of prospects. Holland is bigger and maybe the better athlete.

Holland is definitely the better athlete.

[MemphisX]

One thing I don't get yet is the Ringer having Castle #1 and Holland #13. Maybe I'm crazy but they don't seem too different in terms of prospects. Holland is bigger and maybe the better athlete.

Holland is definitely the better athlete.

Better athlete and more willing shooter/scorer.