2024 NBA Draft Thread

[The Moose]

Dunn now 35% from 3 and 55% TS..

Is it possible that people convinced themselves on low sample and a heater to start the career?

Not really, because the shocking part to me was not even primarily about the percentage of makes. It's that he's basically exclusively taking 3PT FG's now. He was completely afraid of shooting for the 2nd half of the NCAA season

[zimpy27]

Dunn now 35% from 3 and 55% TS..

Is it possible that people convinced themselves on low sample and a heater to start the career?

Not really, because the shocking part to me was not even primarily about the percentage of makes. It's that he's basically exclusively taking 3PT FG's now. He was completely afraid of shooting for the 2nd half of the NCAA season

That's him buying in to being a role player in Bud's system, asked to shoot 3s and cut for dunks/layups. Probably easier to buy in if he had no strong offensive role when in college. His college coach system probably didn't want him taking 3s, depends on system.

My point is that the sample is very small, we might need to wait a longer while before seeing where he's at with a shooting change.

[babyjax13]

Honestly if he shoots 30 percent or more on 3s that would be shocking enough.

[The-Power]

Dunn now 35% from 3 and 55% TS..

Is it possible that people convinced themselves on low sample and a heater to start the career?

Not really, because the shocking part to me was not even primarily about the percentage of makes. It's that he's basically exclusively taking 3PT FG's now. He was completely afraid of shooting for the 2nd half of the NCAA season

This. The shock was never about the percentages (although they certainly helped drawing attention to it).

[zimpy27]

Dunn now 35% from 3 and 55% TS..

Is it possible that people convinced themselves on low sample and a heater to start the career?

Not really, because the shocking part to me was not even primarily about the percentage of makes. It's that he's basically exclusively taking 3PT FG's now. He was completely afraid of shooting for the 2nd half of the NCAA season

This. The shock was never about the percentages (although they certainly helped drawing attention to it).

Isn't this more of a scheme thing from one extreme to another in terms of spacing requirements?

Seems to me that Dunn just doing what he's asked to do on offense and is fine with it because he's limited.

[The-Power]

Not really, because the shocking part to me was not even primarily about the percentage of makes. It's that he's basically exclusively taking 3PT FG's now. He was completely afraid of shooting for the 2nd half of the NCAA season

This. The shock was never about the percentages (although they certainly helped drawing attention to it).

Isn't this more of a scheme thing from one extreme to another in terms of spacing requirements?

Seems to me that Dunn just doing what he's asked to do on offense and is fine with it because he's limited.

Scheme requires him to do different things but is not the reason he looks so different. He was scared to shoot in college and for a good reason – he absolutely sucked at it. He is now comfortably shooting in the NBA and the early results being so positive (also looking at pre-season here) is the cherry on top. If Dunn wasn't a much improved shooter already, the Suns would not have him shoot so many 3s (he probably wouldn't play at all) and he would not look anywhere near as comfortable shooting the ball.

[The Moose]

Big game from Risacher, nice to see

[MemphisX]

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[JMAC3]

Dunn now 35% from 3 and 55% TS..

Is it possible that people convinced themselves on low sample and a heater to start the career?

Not really, because the shocking part to me was not even primarily about the percentage of makes. It's that he's basically exclusively taking 3PT FG's now. He was completely afraid of shooting for the 2nd half of the NCAA season

He is shooting them with the confidence of a 10 yr vet, he isn't just taking the open ones that teams are daring him to take. He is hitting the ones where the defender is hard closing out in the corners, even saw him hit a pull up transition 3... This feels like it will be an exception to the rule and because of that 10 more of these guys will get overdrafted the next 3 years with much worse results.

[Chi town]

Big game from Risacher, nice to see

Great game for him. Made his 3s but also cuts well for dunks and good timing and touch on tip ins. His D also gets him a couple dunks too

[HadAnEffectHere]

Cody Williams' completely broken jumpshot form has somehow gotten much worse since he reached the NBA so that's not good to see.

[FarBeyondDriven]

McCain with 27-3-2. I was told he couldn't create for himself so it's odd seeing him do so. Mounting injuries around the league giving rookies more opportunities

[The Moose]

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looking good

[babyjax13]

I'm feeling good about Kyshawn George in my big board's top 2 almost all season lol. Not sure about the rest of it, though, haha

[zimpy27]

Knecht is improving on defense, I wonder how far he can get on the defense plain

[HadAnEffectHere]

For the Jazz, Collier and Filipowski look like clear rotation players if they learn how to shoot, but both are still very bad at shooting. It's not clear how either guy scores unless they shoot like 38%+ from three on high volume, but both are excellent passers and ball handlers.

Cody Williams is getting phased out of the Jazz's rotation. He's obviously not an NBA player and is years and years away from deserving NBA minutes. Maybe a 4-5 year project. He needs 30-50 pounds of muscle and a completely changed jumpshot form to compete in the NBA and that will take several years.

[EMG518]

For the Jazz, Collier and Filipowski look like clear rotation players if they learn how to shoot, but both are still very bad at shooting. It's not clear how either guy scores unless they shoot like 38%+ from three on high volume, but both are excellent passers and ball handlers.

Cody Williams is getting phased out of the Jazz's rotation. He's obviously not an NBA player and is years and years away from deserving NBA minutes. Maybe a 4-5 year project. He needs 30-50 pounds of muscle and a completely changed jumpshot form to compete in the NBA and that will take several years.

Small sample size but Filipowski is 67.6% from 2 and 39.1% from 3 for the season.

[HadAnEffectHere]

For the Jazz, Collier and Filipowski look like clear rotation players if they learn how to shoot, but both are still very bad at shooting. It's not clear how either guy scores unless they shoot like 38%+ from three on high volume, but both are excellent passers and ball handlers.

Cody Williams is getting phased out of the Jazz's rotation. He's obviously not an NBA player and is years and years away from deserving NBA minutes. Maybe a 4-5 year project. He needs 30-50 pounds of muscle and a completely changed jumpshot form to compete in the NBA and that will take several years.

Small sample size but Filipowski is 67.6% from 2 and 39.1% from 3 for the season.

9/23 vs. 9/21 from the line is not suggestive of a guy showing shooting flashes yet, lol.

[EMG518]

For the Jazz, Collier and Filipowski look like clear rotation players if they learn how to shoot, but both are still very bad at shooting. It's not clear how either guy scores unless they shoot like 38%+ from three on high volume, but both are excellent passers and ball handlers.

Cody Williams is getting phased out of the Jazz's rotation. He's obviously not an NBA player and is years and years away from deserving NBA minutes. Maybe a 4-5 year project. He needs 30-50 pounds of muscle and a completely changed jumpshot form to compete in the NBA and that will take several years.

Small sample size but Filipowski is 67.6% from 2 and 39.1% from 3 for the season.

9/23 vs. 9/21 from the line is not suggestive of a guy showing shooting flashes yet, lol.

You just said you don't know how they can score if they can't shoot. Filipowski albeit a small sample size is 67.6% from 2 and 39.1% from 3. Hasn't had any issues being effective on offense thus far. 23 of his 32 baskets are 2s where he is at 67.6%.

[FarBeyondDriven]

For the Jazz, Collier and Filipowski look like clear rotation players if they learn how to shoot, but both are still very bad at shooting. It's not clear how either guy scores unless they shoot like 38%+ from three on high volume, but both are excellent passers and ball handlers.

Cody Williams is getting phased out of the Jazz's rotation. He's obviously not an NBA player and is years and years away from deserving NBA minutes. Maybe a 4-5 year project. He needs 30-50 pounds of muscle and a completely changed jumpshot form to compete in the NBA and that will take several years.

I think teams that have multiple 1st round picks sometimes just use high picks on lottery tickets like the Thunder did with Dieng, Warriors did with Kuminga and Jazz did with Williams. These are generally considered to be multi-year projects. I think Williams is the rawest of them all because he's the smallest of them all and the most timid too. I think it'd be wise to just send him down to the G-League where he can play against his peers and hit the weights. There he'd have much lower expectations. Bring him up if he discovers his aggression and his shooting form improves.