2024 NBA Draft Thread

[Jstock12]

Review of Collier's rookie season.

Isaiah Collier is the best PG on the Jazz's roster
Collier is having statistically the worst season in NBA history

Scouts basically nailed t hat he had no chance of getting to the line or scoring at the rim in the NBA... He still has a chance to be a good NBA player, but it involves him shooting 10 threes a game and making >=40% of them.

Having a 34 TS% on a reasonable sample is crazy, I don't care if you're on a tanking team.

[HadAnEffectHere]

Review of Collier's rookie season.

Isaiah Collier is the best PG on the Jazz's roster
Collier is having statistically the worst season in NBA history

Scouts basically nailed t hat he had no chance of getting to the line or scoring at the rim in the NBA... He still has a chance to be a good NBA player, but it involves him shooting 10 threes a game and making >=40% of them.

Having a 34 TS% on a reasonable sample is crazy, I don't care if you're on a tanking team.

He also has the highest turnover rate in NBA history at 34.4%

[Jstock12]

Review of Collier's rookie season.

Isaiah Collier is the best PG on the Jazz's roster
Collier is having statistically the worst season in NBA history

Scouts basically nailed t hat he had no chance of getting to the line or scoring at the rim in the NBA... He still has a chance to be a good NBA player, but it involves him shooting 10 threes a game and making >=40% of them.

Having a 34 TS% on a reasonable sample is crazy, I don't care if you're on a tanking team.

He also has the highest turnover rate in NBA history at 34.4%

[FarBeyondDriven]

Collier getting the green light and putting up 23-7-7 and the game winner has to have people seething

[jasonxxx102]

Collier getting the green light and putting up 23-7-7 and the game winner has to have people seething

So is this just your schtick now? Every time any random rookie has a good game you're gonna go into every 2024 draft thread and post stuff like this?

It reminds me of that meme where the guy is celebrating like he won the competition but he's in 3rd place.

It's not like a single good game changes anything previously said

[babyjax13]

Collier getting the green light and putting up 23-7-7 and the game winner has to have people seething

So is this just your schtick now? Every time any random rookie has a good game you're gonna go into every 2024 draft thread and post stuff like this?

It reminds me of that meme where the guy is celebrating like he won the competition but he's in 3rd place.

It's not like a single good game changes anything previously said

TBF it is always possible it is a sign he has put things together a bit. January his TS% is up to 49% which is pretty typical for a rookie point guard, and if that holds for the rest of the season there might be an NBA player in there.

[jasonxxx102]

Collier getting the green light and putting up 23-7-7 and the game winner has to have people seething

So is this just your schtick now? Every time any random rookie has a good game you're gonna go into every 2024 draft thread and post stuff like this?

It reminds me of that meme where the guy is celebrating like he won the competition but he's in 3rd place.

It's not like a single good game changes anything previously said

TBF it is always possible it is a sign he has put things together a bit. January his TS% is up to 49% which is pretty typical for a rookie point guard, and if that holds for the rest of the season there might be an NBA player in there.

I wasn't even making a comment about Collier. There's been no question he has been bad up to this point. I don't think super highly of him but very limited amount of Jazz games I've even watched.

The comment was specifically about FBD who randomly shows up in every draft/rookie thread to make a drive by post about how good this draft is or how good a player is and everyone is wrong about this draft

[FarBeyondDriven]

Collier getting the green light and putting up 23-7-7 and the game winner has to have people seething

So is this just your schtick now? Every time any random rookie has a good game you're gonna go into every 2024 draft thread and post stuff like this?

It reminds me of that meme where the guy is celebrating like he won the competition but he's in 3rd place.

It's not like a single good game changes anything previously said

so predictable.

this is the 2nd time this season I've posted a 2024 player's stats after a big game in this thread Nice reach

It's always funny how these people have such lack of self awareness. It's okay that they plaster this thread and the board with stats and bad performances to support their takes but then when someone posts a positive one in response they whine, cry and create fake narratives.

of course the usual crowd upvotes your tantrum

[FarBeyondDriven]

So is this just your schtick now? Every time any random rookie has a good game you're gonna go into every 2024 draft thread and post stuff like this?

It reminds me of that meme where the guy is celebrating like he won the competition but he's in 3rd place.

It's not like a single good game changes anything previously said

TBF it is always possible it is a sign he has put things together a bit. January his TS% is up to 49% which is pretty typical for a rookie point guard, and if that holds for the rest of the season there might be an NBA player in there.

I wasn't even making a comment about Collier. There's been no question he has been bad up to this point. I don't think super highly of him but very limited amount of Jazz games I've even watched.

The comment was specifically about FBD who randomly shows up in every draft/rookie thread to make a drive by post about how good this draft is or how good a player is and everyone is wrong about this draft

wasn't directed at you but the pages of negative talk about Collier you seemingly are okay with since I didn't see you whine about those posts or call them "drive by posts". Cry more

[babyjax13]

Malik Dia having a bit of a monster run of games.

[jasonxxx102]

TBF it is always possible it is a sign he has put things together a bit. January his TS% is up to 49% which is pretty typical for a rookie point guard, and if that holds for the rest of the season there might be an NBA player in there.

I wasn't even making a comment about Collier. There's been no question he has been bad up to this point. I don't think super highly of him but very limited amount of Jazz games I've even watched.

The comment was specifically about FBD who randomly shows up in every draft/rookie thread to make a drive by post about how good this draft is or how good a player is and everyone is wrong about this draft

wasn't directed at you but the pages of negative talk about Collier you seemingly are okay with since I didn't see you whine about those posts or call them "drive by posts". Cry more

This is the problem. You get upset when people post "negatively" about a player when it's just reality. Collier has been bad, what are people supposed to say about him?

It's ok to admit this draft is one of the worst ever and most of the players in it have been really awful to start this year.

Maybe Collier will be a good player, maybe he won't, but it is an objective fact for people to point out how badly he has been playing this year. 1 good game doesn't change the 29 bad ones before it

[FarBeyondDriven]

We’re just about ½ way through the season so I thought I’d post some highlights from the weakest draft class in history. As anyone with skill at projecting players knows, in the absence of defined roles and steady minutes/usage, looking for flashes is more important than box scores and laughable advanced stats.

Hopefully there’s some trades on the horizon and whether there are or not, usually rookies get more run in the 2nd half as teams embrace tanking and/or want to see where each rookie stands heading into the offseason so they know what they’re working with and what needs to be addressed.

Anyway, here’s some guys who have gotten at least some run plus their best game of the season imho.

Risacher - 11-4-1 28%

33-7-3 with 3 steals and 2 blocks

Sarr - 12-7-2 32%

20-7-2 with 4 steals and 3 blocks

Castle - 12-3-4 25%

22-5-4 with a steal

Holland - 6-3-1 22%

26-3-0

Salaun - 5-4-1 28%

17-4-2 with 3 steals

Clingan - 6-7-1 with 1.5 bpg

17-12-1 with 8 blocks

Edey - 10-7-1 with 1 bpg

25-12-1 with 4 blocks

Williams - 4-2-1 25%

11-5-4 with a steal

Buzelis - 5-3-1 33%

20-5-1 with 2 blocks

Carter - 5-4-2 26%

13-7-2

Carrington - 9-4-4 34%

17-5-5

Ware - 7-4-1 43%

19-13-0 with 1 block and 1 steal

McCain - 15–2-3 38%

34-2-10 with 2 steals

Knecht - 9-3-1 33%

37-5-0 with a steal

Da Silva - 9-4-2 31%

21-6-7 with a block

Walter - 7-2-1 30%

27-2-3

Missi - 9-8-1 with 1.5 bpg

23-12-0 with a steal and a block

George - 8-4-2 27%

24-4-4 with a steal

Dunn - 8-3-1 32%

18-11-1 with a block

Collier - 4-3-5 20%

23-7-7 with a block

Mogbo - 5-4-2 32%

12-9-5 with 2 steals and 3 blocks

Mitchell - 6-2-2 43%

16-12-2 with a steal and a block

Wells - 12-3-2 39%

30-5-2

Filipowski - 6-5-2 31%

18-6-2 with 2 blocks

[FarBeyondDriven]

with the Divencezo injury Dillingham is going to get a chance to play more and he looked good tonight. Hopefully he can build upon this.

Collier has been playing well lately too. Double double tonight. I don't wish for injuries but for some of these kids that is what it's going to take given where they landed

[FarBeyondDriven]

Ware with a monster first start. Gotta think that if he had been playing all along he'd be leading the ROY race. Heck, he might catch up and lead it anyway if the Heat move Butler and he plays more.

[EvanZ]

Ware with a monster first start. Gotta think that if he had been playing all along he'd be leading the ROY race. Heck, he might catch up and lead it anyway if the Heat move Butler and he plays more.

Last I checked he was literally the only rookie with a positive BPM, and yet there are people who are still claiming the 2024 class was a good one. It boggles the mind.

[jasonxxx102]

Ware with a monster first start. Gotta think that if he had been playing all along he'd be leading the ROY race. Heck, he might catch up and lead it anyway if the Heat move Butler and he plays more.

Last I checked he was literally the only rookie with a positive BPM, and yet there are people who are still claiming the 2024 class was a good one. It boggles the mind.

The guy you quoted is the one who keeps saying how good this class is lol

[azcatz11]

Who's the best UDFA center left out there? Seems like it's getting pretty thin.

Judah Mintz? has he been signed yet?

This kid has potential imo. I love big guards like him

Read on Twitter

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[FarBeyondDriven]

Ware with a monster first start. Gotta think that if he had been playing all along he'd be leading the ROY race. Heck, he might catch up and lead it anyway if the Heat move Butler and he plays more.

Last I checked he was literally the only rookie with a positive BPM, and yet there are people who are still claiming the 2024 class was a good one. It boggles the mind.

a) imagine using BPM b) imagine using BPM to denigrate young NBA players. This sub is the gift that keeps on giving

[FarBeyondDriven]

Ware with a monster first start. Gotta think that if he had been playing all along he'd be leading the ROY race. Heck, he might catch up and lead it anyway if the Heat move Butler and he plays more.

Last I checked he was literally the only rookie with a positive BPM, and yet there are people who are still claiming the 2024 class was a good one. It boggles the mind.

The guy you quoted is the one who keeps saying how good this class is lol

he knows, he's triggered like you

[jasonxxx102]

Ware with a monster first start. Gotta think that if he had been playing all along he'd be leading the ROY race. Heck, he might catch up and lead it anyway if the Heat move Butler and he plays more.

Last I checked he was literally the only rookie with a positive BPM, and yet there are people who are still claiming the 2024 class was a good one. It boggles the mind.

a) imagine using BPM b) imagine using BPM to denigrate young NBA players. This sub is the gift that keeps on giving

Imagine not being able to accept an objective truth and then arguing with everyone about it