Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft

mcfly1204 · Post #301 » by **mcfly1204** » Mon Dec 5, 2011 6:14 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
Steely Reserve wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:1. Andre Drummond
2. Perry Jones
3. Anthony Davis
4. Jeremy Lamb
5. Quincy Miller

I appreciate the fact you have your own mind and not just another media parrot like so many others.

It seems more likely that you just appreciate the fact that he has Perry Jones #2.

And Harrison Barnes not on the list.

Dr Positivity · Post #302 » by **Dr Positivity** » Mon Dec 5, 2011 6:28 pm

1. Jeremy Lamb
2. Perry Jones III
3. Anthony Davis
4. Jared Sullinger
5. John Henson

Lamb and Jones III are the most dynamic prospects IMO and the ones with star/franchise potential. The other 3 project as very good starting bigs with lower level all-star upside, which is more valuable than the wings with starting potential like MKG and Barnes

Drummond is scarin' the hell out of me too much atm. Undeveloped skill is one thing but he looks like he has Hasheem Thabeet's head in Dwight Howard's body. I would project a mix of Deandre Jordan/Samuel Dalembert and Daryl Dawkins as his future. NBA starter but I prefer the above guys

DirtyDez · Post #303 » by **DirtyDez** » Mon Dec 5, 2011 11:30 pm

ManualRam wrote:
boogie-reke wrote:If Terrence Jones keeps this up, he'll be a top 5.

i dont even think he's top 5 at his position in this upcoming draft.

Not sure what it is with him. He looks lost out there most of the time. He'll get his fair share of production because he has a great body and is just more physical than your average college player. I do like his toughness in his play but not his flexing of the chest after every play.

Charsace · Post #304 » by **Charsace** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 1:16 am

ManualRam wrote:
boogie-reke wrote:If Terrence Jones keeps this up, he'll be a top 5.

i dont even think he's top 5 at his position in this upcoming draft.

Tweener?

I think he will get ate up guarding the perimeter in the NBA, but his game is more of a 3 than a 4.

Sullinger is another guy I'm weary of. I think he will have problems guarding anyone in the league.

Henson to me looks like a guy that will be a project for a few years once he's in the NBA. So skinny and strong players can make him ineffective.

ManualRam · Post #305 » by **ManualRam** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 1:20 am

Charsace wrote:
ManualRam wrote:
boogie-reke wrote:If Terrence Jones keeps this up, he'll be a top 5.

i dont even think he's top 5 at his position in this upcoming draft.

Tweener?

I think he will get ate up guarding the perimeter in the NBA, but his game is more of a 3 than a 4.

he's not skilled enough to play the 3. he's a 4, not a tweener either. i think he'll get ate up regardless.

Justwar · Post #306 » by **Justwar** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 2:09 am

everyone is underrating Jones. He's averaging 15 pts, 7 rbs, 2.5 blks on 50 percent shooting and 50 percent 3pt shooting. He is very skilled and long. He will find his way mid lottery.

Post #307 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 4:22 pm

Justwar wrote:everyone is underrating Jones. He's averaging 15 pts, 7 rbs, 2.5 blks on 50 percent shooting and 50 percent 3pt shooting. He is very skilled and long. He will find his way mid lottery.

I agree - though realize his numbers are a bit inflated due to Kentucky's fast pace. Then again, he'd be given more shots on most teams. Like I said last year, people downgrade him because he doesn't fit a mold of the quintessential forward. He can certainly be a David West level PF in the NBA.

Roger Murdock · Post #308 » by **Roger Murdock** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 11:39 pm

Some order of PJ3, Lamb, Beal, Davis, and Henson. I'm not ranking Drummond yet, theres no point, hes been bad so far and I'd rather wait and see before I call him a star or a bust.

Kaner · Post #309 » by **Kaner** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 12:55 am

ManualRam wrote:he's not skilled enough to play the 3. he's a 4, not a tweener either. i think he'll get ate up regardless.

I think he'll be very similar to Jeff Green, in that he'll be able to get his but he won't ever dominate any aspect of the game. He'll still be a valuable member of any squad IMO.

Justwar · Post #310 » by **Justwar** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 2:07 am

more physical then green and better shot. more of a 4 as well. 6'9" is not small.

ManualRam · Post #311 » by **ManualRam** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 2:21 am

Justwar wrote:more physical then green and better shot. more of a 4 as well. 6'9" is not small.

That shot wont translate to the next level. Too slow of a release and flat-footed. He's strong but he's not a post player.

Rockmaninoff · Post #312 » by **Rockmaninoff** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 7:08 am

Right now I'd say...

1. Anthony Davis
2. Jeremy Lamb
3. Jared Sullinger
4. Terrence Ross
5. Bradley Beal

Honerable Mention: Barnes, Gilchrist, P & T Jones, Miller, Drummond, Leonard, Henson.

Post #313 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 7:52 am

ManualRam wrote:
Justwar wrote:more physical then green and better shot. more of a 4 as well. 6'9" is not small.

That shot wont translate to the next level. Too slow of a release and flat-footed. He's strong but he's not a post player.

It's not a deal breaker, because he's a face the basket player who really is a triple threat from the triple threat position - unlike a certain 1 dimentional SF from UNC not named Hairston. He'll get off his shot, because defenders don't want him going around them. But I agree that his jump shot form needs some work.

vincecarter4pres · Post #314 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 7:54 am

Kaner wrote:
ManualRam wrote:he's not skilled enough to play the 3. he's a 4, not a tweener either. i think he'll get ate up regardless.

I think he'll be very similar to Jeff Green, in that he'll be able to get his but he won't ever dominate any aspect of the game. He'll still be a valuable member of any squad IMO.

Jeff Green is just awful. That's not a player I'm envisioning as a good pick high in the lotto.

vincecarter4pres · Post #315 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 7:56 am

Gilchrist has been showing himself lately, that kid can just ball.

He's going to work himself up there.

I think Barnes is really going to slide come June. Like 10th overall pick at best type of slide depending on who declares.

ManualRam · Post #316 » by **ManualRam** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 8:10 am

Ruzious wrote:
ManualRam wrote:
Justwar wrote:more physical then green and better shot. more of a 4 as well. 6'9" is not small.

That shot wont translate to the next level. Too slow of a release and flat-footed. He's strong but he's not a post player.

It's not a deal breaker, because he's a face the basket player who really is a triple threat from the triple threat position - unlike a certain 1 dimentional SF from UNC not named Hairston. He'll get off his shot, because defenders don't want him going around them. But I agree that his jump shot form needs some work.

if he's not a good shooter he's not a triple threat player.

Kirsten19 · Post #317 » by **Kirsten19** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 9:38 am

http://uncbball.tumblr.com/pos...-junior-forward-from

ESPN -NCAA:
http://espn.go.com/mens-colleg...id/45531/john-henson

ESPN article on Henson and Zeller:
http://espn.go.com/mens-colleg...s-college-basketball

6-11 bigman from UNC. Great shotblocker, averaged 3.3 blks per game, has a much improved offensive game n is the ACC Defensive Player of the Year(2011)

Has a 7'4" wingspan and is amazingly athletic

Apparently, would prefer top prospects like Andre Dummond or Anthony Davis(1st overall??) but they are pretty much locked in the top 2 picks. I rate John Henson higher than Sullinger, Perry Jones and Thomas Robinson in the 2012 draft.

I think its Henson's shotblocking ability, post D n amazing athleticism that impress me. not only because he has grown from 6'10", 200lb to 6'11" n220lb in one year.

Watch the following link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvnfYdYS ... re=related

U can tell he can become a defensive specialist in the league. his defensive instinct is GREAT, it has nothing to do with his 7-4 wingspan or his height

220lb is still lightweight, but if he managed to add 10-15lb in the near future(which should be possible), i see a new Marcus Camby here

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #318 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 5:02 pm

My most recent top 5:
1- Anthony Davis
2- Perry Jones
3- Jeremy Lamb
4- Bradley Beal
5- Thomas Robinson

After watching Andre Drummond, I just can't put him in the top 5. He's just too raw to be a top 5 talent in this talented of a draft. I could maybe justify putting him at #5 just based off of his potential alone but Robinson has been a monster so far and I couldn't help but fall in love with the kid.

Guys who have a lot to prove in my book: Andre Drummond and Harrison Barnes. Neither are going to crack the top 5 on my board until they show me more. Barnes needs to score in the paint more and Drummond needs to do more than just block shots.

Post #319 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:28 am

ManualRam wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
ManualRam wrote:That shot wont translate to the next level. Too slow of a release and flat-footed. He's strong but he's not a post player.

It's not a deal breaker, because he's a face the basket player who really is a triple threat from the triple threat position - unlike a certain 1 dimentional SF from UNC not named Hairston. He'll get off his shot, because defenders don't want him going around them. But I agree that his jump shot form needs some work.

if he's not a good shooter he's not a triple threat player.

And if the sky is blue, it's not yellow. He's a good enough shooter to be a threat.

ManualRam · Post #320 » by **ManualRam** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 4:04 am

Ruzious wrote:
ManualRam wrote:
Ruzious wrote:It's not a deal breaker, because he's a face the basket player who really is a triple threat from the triple threat position - unlike a certain 1 dimentional SF from UNC not named Hairston. He'll get off his shot, because defenders don't want him going around them. But I agree that his jump shot form needs some work.

if he's not a good shooter he's not a triple threat player.

And if the sky is blue, it's not yellow. He's a good enough shooter to be a threat.

i disagree with that. i have no doubt defenders will play off of him at the next level. he has the type of shot release where you can play off him and still contest.