Potential sleepers

Leprechaun18 · Post #301 » by **Leprechaun18** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:20 am

D.Jackson out of Notre Dame is really being slept on! Ford has him going 23 and "nbadraft.net" gots him going at 31. This kid is a chiseled 193 and has a rare combination of power and speed. I would compare him to Rozier who has shown some flashes for the Celtics in the playoffs. The thing is that he is a much better outside shooter and passer than Rozier was in college. He should be a top 7 pick in this draft.

janmagn · Post #302 » by **janmagn** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:08 am

doordoor123 wrote:
Kupt wrote:
janmagn wrote:I think in terms of sleepers who can produce right away

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Playing style...long 3/d type sf who also good passer

If we're adding the white factor, Jake Layman and Paul Zipster. Other than that, Dorian Finney-Smith, Patrick McCaw and Justin Jackson

Those were some of the guys I saw there. But many of them lack either the passing or the length.

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doordoor123 · Post #303 » by **doordoor123** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:50 am

janmagn wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
Kupt wrote:Playing style...long 3/d type sf who also good passer

If we're adding the white factor, Jake Layman and Paul Zipster. Other than that, Dorian Finney-Smith, Patrick McCaw and Justin Jackson

Those were some of the guys I saw there. But many of them lack either the passing or the length.

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Layman, Zipster, McCaw and Jackson are long guys that can pass.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #304 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:18 pm

Is Cornelie a sleeper? Or does everyone know about him now

skywalker33 · Post #305 » by **skywalker33** » Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:57 am

Just saw that SG Edin Atic is an international entry. Good size at 6'7 , gained some weight (up to 195) yet still has some maturing to do.

doordoor123 · Post #306 » by **doordoor123** » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:00 pm

It baffles me that Malik Pope is a second round pick. Sure, he has had injuries and had issues with production this past year, but if I have 3 picks in the first round I wouldn't mind gambling one on him. He has SO much potential and could very well be the steal of this draft. The things he could do are things not many guys can do.

sweetcity · Post #307 » by **sweetcity** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:07 am

doordoor123 wrote:It baffles me that Malik Pope is a second round pick. Sure, he has had injuries and had issues with production this past year, but if I have 3 picks in the first round I wouldn't mind gambling one on him. He has SO much potential and could very well be the steal of this draft. The things he could do are things not many guys can do.

I cant seem him getting by the raptors at 27... Masai loves wingspan

Post #308 » by **GimmeDat** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:11 am

Leprechaun18 wrote:D.Jackson out of Notre Dame is really being slept on! Ford has him going 23 and "nbadraft.net" gots him going at 31. This kid is a chiseled 193 and has a rare combination of power and speed. I would compare him to Rozier who has shown some flashes for the Celtics in the playoffs. The thing is that he is a much better outside shooter and passer than Rozier was in college. He should be a top 7 pick in this draft.

Top 7 is a stretch, but I do like him in the mid-1st round. I think the Bulls will consider him at 14. He's an excellent athlete and doesn't have any real holes in his game.

Leprechaun18 · Post #309 » by **Leprechaun18** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:05 am

GimmeDat wrote:
Leprechaun18 wrote:D.Jackson out of Notre Dame is really being slept on! Ford has him going 23 and "nbadraft.net" gots him going at 31. This kid is a chiseled 193 and has a rare combination of power and speed. I would compare him to Rozier who has shown some flashes for the Celtics in the playoffs. The thing is that he is a much better outside shooter and passer than Rozier was in college. He should be a top 7 pick in this draft.

Top 7 is a stretch, but I do like him in the mid-1st round. I think the Bulls will consider him at 14. He's an excellent athlete and doesn't have any real holes in his game.

Hmm this draft is full of players with holes in their game. The likely first pick cannot shoot well. I think D. Jackson is one of the safer picks.

No-Man · Post #310 » by **No-Man** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:09 pm

I think DJackson is going to be okayish but pretty vanilla, I dont mind him but he looks like just a regular PG, middle of the pack.
I like Ulis upside better, because he brings more interesting things, and Baldwin who just has a higher ceiling.
Depends on who needs a PG, but Jackson should go anywhere from 15 to 25, I wont touch him in the lotto I think.

doordoor123 · Post #311 » by **doordoor123** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:00 pm

Fischella wrote:I think DJackson is going to be okayish but pretty vanilla, I dont mind him but he looks like just a regular PG, middle of the pack.
I like Ulis upside better, because he brings more interesting things, and Baldwin who just has a higher ceiling.
Depends on who needs a PG, but Jackson should go anywhere from 15 to 25, I wont touch him in the lotto I think.

I could see Jackson being a starter one day, but I can't see him as a top-end starter and I think for more of his career he's going to be more of a back up. A good back up though. Ulis i'm still kind of afraid of for his height. I think Ulis is a bit of a gamble and I could see many different scenarios for his career. If I'm trying to get the best player available, I wouldn't take Jackson. I think Jackson is more fit for a team that is looking for a back up point guard and you usually want to shoot for the stars with the first 20 picks. I would take Jackson in the 20s. Ulis I also would take in the 20s. I wouldnt be surprised if both are taken earlier than that, but if they are the teams that picked them could be missing out on a steal of a player.

FreakMaster · Post #312 » by **FreakMaster** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:05 am

Klomp wrote:100% my draft sleeper is Josh Adams from Wyoming.

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For the record, I called Larry Nance Jr being a first round pick in January when he wasn't even on any draft boards. Adams is getting the same treatment right now (64th-ranked Senior by DX is a joke!) but he arguably has an easier skill set to transition to the modern NBA game.

Through 10 games: 25.2 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 4.1 apg, 1.3 spg

This Kid is Electric! Wow! Why isn't he on any mock draft boards?

Post #313 » by **Klomp** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:11 am

FreakMaster wrote:This Kid is Electric! Wow! Why isn't he on any mock draft boards?

His college teammate Larry Nance Jr wasn't on any mock drafts until 10 days before the draft. DX never mocked him above 54. Went 27th.

I think a big part of it is being in Wyoming, away from the national spotlight.

RationalGaze · Post #314 » by **RationalGaze** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 8:10 am

Klomp wrote:
FreakMaster wrote:This Kid is Electric! Wow! Why isn't he on any mock draft boards?

His college teammate Larry Nance Jr wasn't on any mock drafts until 10 days before the draft. DX never mocked him above 54. Went 27th.

I think a big part of it is being in Wyoming, away from the national spotlight.

You have the inside track since you have that Wyoming tag so what's he look like when running an offense and how's his defense?

Post #315 » by **GimmeDat** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:33 am

Can anyone provide some insight on Guerschon Yabusele? Seen some clips but I'm not sure what to make of him.

nbadraft.net having him at #21 and DX at #54. Bit of disparity there.

No-Man · Post #316 » by **No-Man** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:38 am

GimmeDat wrote:Can anyone provide some insight on Guerschon Yabusele? Seen some clips but I'm not sure what to make of him.

nbadraft.net having him at #21 and DX at #54. Bit of disparity there.

he has been on fire lately but he plays for a really weak team, a ton of physical tools even if he is short, built to be a smallball C type, can shoot it also, the thing is that there are a ton of bigs in this class and his position is the deepest in basketball, but at least he is a versatile big, so I'd prefer him to a traditional C.

Post #317 » by **GimmeDat** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:40 am

Fischella wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:Can anyone provide some insight on Guerschon Yabusele? Seen some clips but I'm not sure what to make of him.

nbadraft.net having him at #21 and DX at #54. Bit of disparity there.

he has been on fire lately but he plays for a really weak team, a ton of physical tools even if he is short, built to be a smallball C type, can shoot it also, the thing is that there are a ton of bigs in this class and his position is the deepest in basketball, but at least he is a versatile big, so I'd prefer him to a traditional C.

Do you think at 6'8', even 6'7 I've seen on some sites, he's too small completely for the C position?

What range would you project?

No-Man · Post #318 » by **No-Man** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:49 am

GimmeDat wrote:
Fischella wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:Can anyone provide some insight on Guerschon Yabusele? Seen some clips but I'm not sure what to make of him.

nbadraft.net having him at #21 and DX at #54. Bit of disparity there.

he has been on fire lately but he plays for a really weak team, a ton of physical tools even if he is short, built to be a smallball C type, can shoot it also, the thing is that there are a ton of bigs in this class and his position is the deepest in basketball, but at least he is a versatile big, so I'd prefer him to a traditional C.

Do you think at 6'8', even 6'7 I've seen on some sites, he's too small completely for the C position?

What range would you project?

I still need to navigate through my rankings and likely I wont even try until the final list is out, too many questions as of who is in and not for now.
I think he can play smallball C for sure, with his length.
I probably would say early 2nd round, I like Robert Carter Jr, who is a similar player but more skilled, better.

doordoor123 · Post #319 » by **doordoor123** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:41 pm

Fischella wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:
Fischella wrote:he has been on fire lately but he plays for a really weak team, a ton of physical tools even if he is short, built to be a smallball C type, can shoot it also, the thing is that there are a ton of bigs in this class and his position is the deepest in basketball, but at least he is a versatile big, so I'd prefer him to a traditional C.

Do you think at 6'8', even 6'7 I've seen on some sites, he's too small completely for the C position?

What range would you project?

I still need to navigate through my rankings and likely I wont even try until the final list is out, too many questions as of who is in and not for now.
I think he can play smallball C for sure, with his length.
I probably would say early 2nd round, I like Robert Carter Jr, who is a similar player but more skilled, better.

I've heard both Guerschon Yabusele and Robert Carter Jr. are first round picks. I don't know if teams are just hyped for them or if they're actually first round picks, but I think the value of guys that can defend multiple positions and hit a three point shot is going to be at an all-time high this year as teams try to get the next Draymond Green, Andre Igoudala, Jonas Jerebko, or Jae Crowder. Those middle guys. If so, there are going to be steals in the second round.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #320 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:59 pm

Negrodamus wrote:A.J English is another guy that is kinda old for a prospect, but dominated the Portsmouth Invitational and this past NCAA season. He measured out at 6'3.5 in shoes and a 6'9 wingspan. He needs to fill out more, but watch him go to Portland and be just another senior that's undervalued but goes off in the NBA.

Stats this past season:

22.6 ppg, 51.9% 2pt FG, 37% 3pt FG, 83.6% FT, 5 rpg, 6.2 apg, 1.6 spg, 3.6 TOpg

The fact that his dad was a legitimately decent NBA player should improve his draft stock.