2020 NBA Draft II

[Duke4life831]

Haven’t had a chance to watch much of Duke this season. Can anyone give me any insight into Justin Robinson? I know he’s the Admiral’s son and all, but he’s shot it well from 3 and everyone is talking about how he has been providing a huge spark to Duke off the bench.

https://www.dukebasketballreport.com/platform/amp/2020/3/9/21171136/a-good-piece-on-justin-robinson-duke-basketball-david-robinson-coach-k

Really cool college story but nothing more than that (if you are wondering about a NBA future). Also goes to further show K has definitely lost a step or 2 as a coach. The only reason Robinson got any minutes at all was because the Wake game went to double OT and Vernon Carey and Javin were both in foul trouble all game long. The funny thing is, Robinson comes in and gets 6/2/1 with 2 steals and 3 blocks on 50% shooting in just 15 minutes of play and the next game.... gets a DNP coaches decision.

Ive seen some Duke fans say that this was just his natural progression, but please. You dont go from not being able to see a single legit minute of game time for 3.75 years to all of a sudden being able to drop back 2 back double digit scoring games and 5 blocks. Not saying he would've been a star or anything like that, but I dont think its all that far fetched to say he could've been a solid bench big the last 2 years if given the opportunity. Robinson has always shown 2 things over the last 3 years whenever he got to play final minutes in blow outs. He is a big that has hops that can block shots and can hit an open 3.

[getrichordie]

Haven’t had a chance to watch much of Duke this season. Can anyone give me any insight into Justin Robinson? I know he’s the Admiral’s son and all, but he’s shot it well from 3 and everyone is talking about how he has been providing a huge spark to Duke off the bench.

https://www.dukebasketballreport.com/platform/amp/2020/3/9/21171136/a-good-piece-on-justin-robinson-duke-basketball-david-robinson-coach-k

Really cool college story but nothing more than that (if you are wondering about a NBA future). Also goes to further show K has definitely lost a step or 2 as a coach. The only reason Robinson got any minutes at all was because the Wake game went to double OT and Vernon Carey and Javin were both in foul trouble all game long. The funny thing is, Robinson comes in and gets 6/2/1 with 2 steals and 3 blocks on 50% shooting in just 15 minutes of play and the next game.... gets a DNP coaches decision.

Ive seen some Duke fans say that this was just his natural progression, but please. You dont go from not being able to see a single legit minute of game time for 3.75 years to all of a sudden being able to drop back 2 back double digit scoring games and 5 blocks. Not saying he would've been a star or anything like that, but I dont think its all that far fetched to say he could've been a solid bench big the last 2 years if given the opportunity. Robinson has always shown 2 things over the last 3 years whenever he got to play final minutes in blow outs. He is a big that has hops that can block shots and can hit an open 3.

Well that can certainly be valuable in the NBA. He has good size for a wing. Do you know how well he moves laterally and can play perimeter D? I know he's 6'8/210. Not sure what his wingspan is but if he can solidly guard a 3 and 4 and hit 3s and can provide weakside help via blocked shots/contested shot, then he could definitely be draft-able. One thing that can't be overstated is that he is probably super fresh since he hasn't played much for Duke which can be a good thing.

[Duke4life831]

Haven’t had a chance to watch much of Duke this season. Can anyone give me any insight into Justin Robinson? I know he’s the Admiral’s son and all, but he’s shot it well from 3 and everyone is talking about how he has been providing a huge spark to Duke off the bench.

https://www.dukebasketballreport.com/platform/amp/2020/3/9/21171136/a-good-piece-on-justin-robinson-duke-basketball-david-robinson-coach-k

Really cool college story but nothing more than that (if you are wondering about a NBA future). Also goes to further show K has definitely lost a step or 2 as a coach. The only reason Robinson got any minutes at all was because the Wake game went to double OT and Vernon Carey and Javin were both in foul trouble all game long. The funny thing is, Robinson comes in and gets 6/2/1 with 2 steals and 3 blocks on 50% shooting in just 15 minutes of play and the next game.... gets a DNP coaches decision.

Ive seen some Duke fans say that this was just his natural progression, but please. You dont go from not being able to see a single legit minute of game time for 3.75 years to all of a sudden being able to drop back 2 back double digit scoring games and 5 blocks. Not saying he would've been a star or anything like that, but I dont think its all that far fetched to say he could've been a solid bench big the last 2 years if given the opportunity. Robinson has always shown 2 things over the last 3 years whenever he got to play final minutes in blow outs. He is a big that has hops that can block shots and can hit an open 3.

Well that can certainly be valuable in the NBA. He has good size for a wing. Do you know how well he moves laterally and can play perimeter D? I know he's 6'8/210. Not sure what his wingspan is but if he can solidly guard a 3 and 4 and hit 3s and can provide weakside help via blocked shots/contested shot, then he could definitely be draft-able. One thing that can't be overstated is that he is probably super fresh since he hasn't played much for Duke which can be a good thing.

He has zero chance at the NBA. He is bouncy but as stiff as they come athletically, he has zero lateral agility. His jumper is also a very slow shot as well. Again cool college story, but that is about it.

[King Ken]

Obi Toppin comparisons: Either Amare or C. Webb?

My 3rd overall prospect is looking good, I know a lot of people think GS might go center but Toppin is so much better and he fits their system.

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[getrichordie]

Marcus Carr seems like he is getting overlooked. Good size. Good athlete. Versatile 3-level scorer. Isn’t afraid of contact around the basket. Hustles on D. Will probably benefit from NBA spacing.

Crazy finish around the 2:15-2:20 mark.

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[King Ken]

Can someone explain to me why Kira Lewis isn’t a projected lottery pick? I haven’t gotten a chance to dig deep into him yet but he seems to have some pretty good projectable NBA skills.

Seems like Coby White... great pick in the top 15-20.

Coby has really come on lately and looks like a pretty good pick. Considering this is considered a weak draft, wouldn’t Coby be a top 5-10 guy in this draft too?

I wouldn't say Coby White at all honestly. I think Kira is a good prospect but I see more Dennis Schroder than Coby White.

[pcbothwel]

Seems like Coby White... great pick in the top 15-20.

Coby has really come on lately and looks like a pretty good pick. Considering this is considered a weak draft, wouldn’t Coby be a top 5-10 guy in this draft too?

I wouldn't say Coby White at all honestly. I think Kira is a good prospect but I see more Dennis Schroder than Coby White.

Agreed, better comp. Though Schroder with a better attitude (Apparently the one now in OKC) is still a very good player.

[doordoor123]

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Marcus Carr seems like he is getting overlooked. Good size. Good athlete. Versatile 3-level scorer. Isn’t afraid of contact around the basket. Hustles on D. Will probably benefit from NBA spacing.

Crazy finish around the 2:15-2:20 mark.

Watch on YouTube

He’s a good finisher, but likely a back up type in the NBA. Physically like Monte Morris. More of a back up type defender. His shot needs work, but he has a good feel for the basket. I think he can make a team, he won’t be a starter in the modern game, where most guards are super athletes.

[King Ken]

Coby has really come on lately and looks like a pretty good pick. Considering this is considered a weak draft, wouldn’t Coby be a top 5-10 guy in this draft too?

I wouldn't say Coby White at all honestly. I think Kira is a good prospect but I see more Dennis Schroder than Coby White.

Agreed, better comp. Though Schroder with a better attitude (Apparently the one now in OKC) is still a very good player.

He's clearly not going to be Dennis w/ OKC at this time. In time, I can see that being a good peak for Lewis.

[doordoor123]

Offensively Anthony Cowan reminds me so much of Kyle Lowry. He has the same moves and is as physical. The issue is that he just doesn’t have the same body. But I can see him drawing a lot of fouls in the NBA and being a good playmaker.

[clyde21]

Schroder is def a better comp for Kira, better than Coby at least, and that's not a dig, Schroder can be good, he's a 6MOY candidate this season

[CoreyVillains]

Seems like Coby White... great pick in the top 15-20.

Coby has really come on lately and looks like a pretty good pick. Considering this is considered a weak draft, wouldn’t Coby be a top 5-10 guy in this draft too?

I wouldn't say Coby White at all honestly. I think Kira is a good prospect but I see more Dennis Schroder than Coby White.

I agree I don’t see much Coby. Kira seems like a much more fluid ball handler than Coby. Has a little more shake.

[clyde21]

^ not really, Coby's stop-and-go is pretty elite, and his handle is probably better than Kira's tbh, Coby has the making of an absolutely elite shot maker in the NBA

[getrichordie]

I’m moving up Deni Avidja up on my lottery board. I think he has a real chance of going top 5.

[clyde21]

i fail to see a huge difference between Deni and Bolmaro tbh, i have them ranked essentially identical.

why do people like Deni so much more?

[CoreyVillains]

^ not really, Coby's stop-and-go is pretty elite, and his handle is probably better than Kira's tbh, Coby has the making of an absolutely elite shot maker in the NBA

Coby has been a really effective ball handler, but he doesnt have that Chris Paul-esque ball on a string handle. Not even the look of a guy like Garland. He dribbles a little high, it looks sloppy sometimes, the stop and go is kinda herky jerky. Again, it's been very effective and as a Bulls fan I am super happy with how he's developing and I agree that he has the makings of an elite shot maker. But aesthetically I dont think his handle is all that pretty.

[King Ken]

^ not really, Coby's stop-and-go is pretty elite, and his handle is probably better than Kira's tbh, Coby has the making of an absolutely elite shot maker in the NBA

I think both have great handles, I just don't think they relate in general. It wouldn't surprise me if Coby White was averaging 30PPG next year.

[RipCity71252]

Scottie Lewis is growing on me.

Like him best in a small role on a good team. Very similar mentality and strengths/weaknesses to Terrance Ferguson, but I like Scottie's movement / athleticism more and think he's the better shooter.

Terrance's advantages mainly were that I think he knew what he was a bit more and was a more reliable decision maker.

Physically, Terrance is taller but has less length. Scottie actually has an inch reach advantage despite being two inches shorter. Also think his frame is better (slighter wider, especially through lower half).

Decent value if you can get him outside the top 20. Would take him over Josh Green based on his strengths standing out more at the NBA level.

[getrichordie]

i fail to see a huge difference between Deni and Bolmaro tbh, i have them ranked essentially identical.

why do people like Deni so much more?

I can’t speak for everyone else, but I personally think that Deni is taller and stronger as well as longer than Bolmaro. I also think his vertical is better just using the eye test. I think he just sees the court better which is evidenced by some of his awesome timing on his passes. I think he’s a superior rebounder and shooter as well.

While Bolmaro has a wider array of moves, I just don’t think he’s a great shooter or that his game is going to translate to the NBA as well as Avidja’s will. Avidja can be a special shooter. I do think that Bolmaro does have a chance to become a Ginobili type with work. He can definitely pass and is crafty around the basket and has nice touch, but his outside shooting needs work and I don’t think he has the same burst on his drives as Avidja.

Here’s a good game that showcases Avidja’s potential:

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[clyde21]

Scottie Lewis is growing on me.

Like him best in a small role on a good team. Very similar mentality and strengths/weaknesses to Terrance Ferguson, but I like Scottie's movement / athleticism more and think he's the better shooter.

Terrance's advantages mainly were that I think he knew what he was a bit more and was a more reliable decision maker.

Physically, Terrance is taller but has less length. Scottie actually has an inch reach advantage despite being two inches shorter. Also think his frame is better (slighter wider, especially through lower half).

Decent value if you can get him outside the top 20. Would take him over Josh Green based on his strengths standing out more at the NBA level.

i actually like Ferg coming out, had him in my top12 at the time for that class, but Lewis IMO is clearly better, better physical profile, shorter with the same weight, better frame, stronger, longer wingspan/reach, more of a quick twitch athlete and just as explosive. Lewis IMO is a plug-n-play defender day 1, Ferg wasn't...