Zach Edey, 7-4

[Chi town]

I’d take Edey after 20.

Normal draft end of 1st.

[CptCrunch]

I think Edey is a boom or bust prospect. Huge hit (for draft position) or an immediate giant bust. Risk adjusted (pulling these numbers out of my ass), I'll be comfortable taking him between 15-25. If he falls below 25, probably too much upside to not draft immediately.

15% all-star or better
30% starter, can be played off the court
10% bench big
45% out of league within 3 years

[JustBuzzin]

If your center can't handle the ball he better be a good lob threat or a rim roller.

I'm trying to figure out why people high on this dude when his style of play is no longer in the NBA.

[OriAr]

I think Edey is a boom or bust prospect. Huge hit (for draft position) or an immediate giant bust. Risk adjusted (pulling these numbers out of my ass), I'll be comfortable taking him between 15-25. If he falls below 25, probably too much upside to not draft immediately.

15% all-star or better
30% starter, can be played off the court
10% bench big
45% out of league within 3 years

Bucks would be stupid to not take him if he falls all the way to them.
He could be a great Brook Lopez replacement if he can develop his 3.

[King Ken]

I think it'll be immediately apparent come combine time that he is a massive liability defending the most popular play in basketball, the PnR. He'll basically be relegated to drop coverage and guys will just spam wide open threes until he overcommits and then he'll easily be driven past or bigs will slide past for easy lobs. There are too many centers that can shoot from the perimeter or put the ball on the floor and take him off the dribble as well. And because he can't spread the floor himself he'll just clog the paint for his teammates on offense.

The reason why I am so high on Yang (all alone apparently btw) is because he's got similar size but is more talented offensively, has much better footwork, has better instincts on both ends, higher BBIQ, and the offense will be able to be run through him due to his passing like you see with Jokic, Sabonis and Sengun. He'll similarly struggle defending the perimeter but no worse than other top centers. I'm not sure Edey will even get 10 mpg because teams will just attack him relentlessly and he'll be a foul magnet even if they don't score. I'm now convinced he's not even draftable with how deep this class is with role players that could actually contribute.

Edey has some of the strangest takes I've ever heard and I've watched 21 full possession by possession games this season.

Edey has elite feel, BBIQ, and awareness. Saying a 18 year old is even in the same stratosphere is asinine. Edey is definitely the most underrated prospect I've seen in ages but a lot of that is due to the eye test. Some guys hate the poor fluidity, they move on, say he won't work and really don't know his game at all. It's somewhat fair as fluidity I'd vital but he's overcame that with his skill-set.

He's his own prototype and he's an excellent Basketball player. Easily the best player in this draft class and it's not even close.

Defensively, he's a lot better than you think. Offensively, he's the best off ball prospect we had as a center in the last 10 years but continue to think he's ass. He's just big. His skill-set is there.

If you take Edey #1 overall that GM deserves to get fired.

Guys just because you dominate in college basketball doesn't mean that will translate to the next level. This dude is a big body, he's not going to be able to stay on the floor long vs NBA athletes. This dude is playing against centers who will probably not make the NBA.

A guy that size needs to be fluid and have quick hips . Edey is not that kind of athlete. Can he be a backup center for 10 years maybe.

Look at the top centers in the NBA Jokic/Embiid/Wemby can all put the ball on the floor at the perimeter. Edey is simply not capable of doing that. Teams are gonna small ball him to death and run him out of oxygen.


Please do not take Edey in the top 10 you will regret it.

I didn't advise that you take him #1 overall. He is 22 years old. As an older NBA prospect, you expect a polished product.

So he's just breaking records and dominating because he's big right? Tell me you don't know his game without telling me you don't know his game. No one in Basketball history is just productive because and they suck at basketball. That's not how Basketball works. If you are breaking records, it's because you are damn good. Saying he's not playing against centers who won't play in the NBA is the terrible statement that could be used for every single prospect ever.

There aren't many guys his size period. He's a freak athlete for his size and moves his feet well for his size. He has poor fluidity. That's his massive weakness. It impacts on ball actions and some defensive actions which we see in college. That still doesn't stop him from doing what he's great at and it won't in the NBA either. It's not like he's doing things fluid now. He's not and he won't in the NBA either. Saying he needs it would only be true if it was clear he's not effective due to it but it's clear he is.

He's not them. He is his own prototype. I wish we can wake up and realize that. Haliburton fell out of the top 10 because, we never seen anyone like him before, does that mean he's a bust. No, it meant he's a new prototype. Just accept it and stop underrating proven players. Out of all of the excellent upperclassmen players which are Mikal Bridges, Brandon Clarke, Cam Johnson, Edey, and Denzel Valentine, only Denzel failed and that was due to a serious injury. He did have some success in year 2. I'll take my chances on excellent players who are upperclassmen. They have succeeded and Clarke as well as Johnson didn't have a prototype before they became that prototype.

How are you going to small ball him to death? He has elite BBIQ, feel for the game, and awareness. Guys like him adjust on the fly. You can't expose them like that. That's the problem, I don't even think you guys even know what you are talking about. It's like you haven't watched Edey play at all. You must think he's JaVale McGee or something. Swaggy P or Blatche.

If you fall in love with Edey and you got the personnel in place, do it. These guys won't believe it even then anyway, they will just create an excuse or blame the refs. I am pretty sure the he's just big will not go away from his naysayers.

[JustBuzzin]

Edey has some of the strangest takes I've ever heard and I've watched 21 full possession by possession games this season.

Edey has elite feel, BBIQ, and awareness. Saying a 18 year old is even in the same stratosphere is asinine. Edey is definitely the most underrated prospect I've seen in ages but a lot of that is due to the eye test. Some guys hate the poor fluidity, they move on, say he won't work and really don't know his game at all. It's somewhat fair as fluidity I'd vital but he's overcame that with his skill-set.

He's his own prototype and he's an excellent Basketball player. Easily the best player in this draft class and it's not even close.

Defensively, he's a lot better than you think. Offensively, he's the best off ball prospect we had as a center in the last 10 years but continue to think he's ass. He's just big. His skill-set is there.

If you take Edey #1 overall that GM deserves to get fired.

Guys just because you dominate in college basketball doesn't mean that will translate to the next level. This dude is a big body, he's not going to be able to stay on the floor long vs NBA athletes. This dude is playing against centers who will probably not make the NBA.

A guy that size needs to be fluid and have quick hips . Edey is not that kind of athlete. Can he be a backup center for 10 years maybe.

Look at the top centers in the NBA Jokic/Embiid/Wemby can all put the ball on the floor at the perimeter. Edey is simply not capable of doing that. Teams are gonna small ball him to death and run him out of oxygen.


Please do not take Edey in the top 10 you will regret it.

I didn't advise that you take him #1 overall. He is 22 years old. As an older NBA prospect, you expect a polished product.

So he's just breaking records and dominating because he's big right? Tell me you don't know his game without telling me you don't know his game. No one in Basketball history is just productive because and they suck at basketball. That's not how Basketball works. If you are breaking records, it's because you are damn good. Saying he's not playing against centers who won't play in the NBA is the terrible statement that could be used for every single prospect ever.

There aren't many guys his size period. He's a freak athlete for his size and moves his feet well for his size. He has poor fluidity. That's his massive weakness. It impacts on ball actions and some defensive actions which we see in college. That still doesn't stop him from doing what he's great at and it won't in the NBA either. It's not like he's doing things fluid now. He's not and he won't in the NBA either. Saying he needs it would only be true if it was clear he's not effective due to it but it's clear he is.

He's not them. He is his own prototype. I wish we can wake up and realize that. Haliburton fell out of the top 10 because, we never seen anyone like him before, does that mean he's a bust. No, it meant he's a new prototype. Just accept it and stop underrating proven players. Out of all of the excellent upperclassmen players which are Mikal Bridges, Brandon Clarke, Cam Johnson, Edey, and Denzel Valentine, only Denzel failed and that was due to a serious injury. He did have some success in year 2. I'll take my chances on excellent players who are upperclassmen. They have succeeded and Clarke as well as Johnson didn't have a prototype before they became that prototype.

How are you going to small ball him to death? He has elite BBIQ, feel for the game, and awareness. Guys like him adjust on the fly. You can't expose them like that. That's the problem, I don't even think you guys even know what you are talking about. It's like you haven't watched Edey play at all. You must think he's JaVale McGee or something. Swaggy P or Blatche.

If you fall in love with Edey and you got the personnel in place, do it. These guys won't believe it even then anyway, they will just create an excuse or blame the refs. I am pretty sure the he's just big will not go away from his naysayers.

Bro he's a post player. That is fine if this was the 90's, but there is no longer post up bigs in the league. Jokic/Embiid/AD can all put the ball on the floor.

Edey is just your old school low post center. He lacks mobility to switch in pick n roll. That's a huge problem if you expect him to be a long-term starter.

Guys like Hibbert, Okafor are no longer in the league because they can't be mobile and switch on perimeter players. Even Dwight is now out of the league because of this.

I just don't see Edey ever being a starting center long-term.

[yosemiteben]

Is there any reason he can't be a rich man's Zubac?

[HadAnEffectHere]

Is there any reason he can't be a rich man's Zubac?

I just do not understand this comparison at all outside of facial structure and kind of skin color?

Zubac: 7'0", 7'4" wingspan, <=265 pounds (would guess he's closer to his listed 240 right now, but was 265 at draft time)
Zach Edey: 7'3", 7'10.5" wingspan, 295 pounds

Zach Edey is the most dominant low post scorer in college since Shaq and he can't move nearly as well as Zubac.

[JustBuzzin]

Is there any reason he can't be a rich man's Zubac?

Roy Hibbert

[HadAnEffectHere]

Roy Hibbert was extremely bad at offense. He's Yao teleported to 2024 with much longer arms (Yao was 7'3.5" with like a 7'4" wingspan, Edey is 7'3.25" with a 7'10.5" wingspan).

Could Yao with longer arms play in 2024? Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[thelead]

I haven’t been keeping up with him this season but I’ve been high on him for a few years now. Any major/noteworthy improvements?

[HadAnEffectHere]

I haven’t been keeping up with him this season but I’ve been high on him for a few years now. Any major/noteworthy improvements?

He lost 10-15 pounds and he's a little more mobile this year while still being as dominant offensively. He's a little better of a prospect though not hugely changed.

[JustBuzzin]

Roy Hibbert was extremely bad at offense. He's Yao teleported to 2024 with much longer arms (Yao was 7'3.5" with like a 7'4" wingspan, Edey is 7'3.25" with a 7'10.5" wingspan).

Could Yao with longer arms play in 2024? Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Comparing him to Yao is a slap in the face to Yao. That's a HOF. Are you suggesting Edey has that kind of ability?

[azcatz11]

Roy Hibbert was extremely bad at offense. He's Yao teleported to 2024 with much longer arms (Yao was 7'3.5" with like a 7'4" wingspan, Edey is 7'3.25" with a 7'10.5" wingspan).

Could Yao with longer arms play in 2024? Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Comparing him to Yao is a slap in the face to Yao. That's a HOF. Are you suggesting Edey has that kind of ability?

I can see the similarities tbh. Yao was stronger though and didn’t get knocked down nearly as much as Edey does.

But yeah, good luck playing this dude in anything besides spot minutes. You can throw him in for 10 mpg and he can obviously be effective

[HadAnEffectHere]

Roy Hibbert was extremely bad at offense. He's Yao teleported to 2024 with much longer arms (Yao was 7'3.5" with like a 7'4" wingspan, Edey is 7'3.25" with a 7'10.5" wingspan).

Could Yao with longer arms play in 2024? Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Comparing him to Yao is a slap in the face to Yao. That's a HOF. Are you suggesting Edey has that kind of ability?

Edey is the best college basketball player in the last 25 years and would be a Hall of Fame player if he was teleported to the 90s or early 2000s, yes.

[JustBuzzin]

Roy Hibbert was extremely bad at offense. He's Yao teleported to 2024 with much longer arms (Yao was 7'3.5" with like a 7'4" wingspan, Edey is 7'3.25" with a 7'10.5" wingspan).

Could Yao with longer arms play in 2024? Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Comparing him to Yao is a slap in the face to Yao. That's a HOF. Are you suggesting Edey has that kind of ability?

Edey is the best college basketball player in the last 25 years and would be a Hall of Fame player if he was teleported to the 90s or early 2000s, yes.

I can't take this response serious.

Carmelo/KD even Michael Beasley were better than Edey in college.

If Edey was the greatest college player he would have entered the draft after his freshmen season.

[HadAnEffectHere]

Comparing him to Yao is a slap in the face to Yao. That's a HOF. Are you suggesting Edey has that kind of ability?

Edey is the best college basketball player in the last 25 years and would be a Hall of Fame player if he was teleported to the 90s or early 2000s, yes.

I can't take this response serious.

Carmelo/KD even Michael Beasley were better than Edey in college.

If Edey was the greatest college player he would have entered the draft after his freshmen season.

List of two time Wooden Award winners

Ralph Sampson
Zach Edey

That's the list

(Edey technically hasn't won yet, but he's -2500 for the award right now, lmao)

Also, really weird to put Durant here instead of AD.

Are you like someone who argues that Tim Tebow was actually a bad college football player or something.

[JustBuzzin]

Edey is the best college basketball player in the last 25 years and would be a Hall of Fame player if he was teleported to the 90s or early 2000s, yes.

I can't take this response serious.

Carmelo/KD even Michael Beasley were better than Edey in college.

If Edey was the greatest college player he would have entered the draft after his freshmen season.

List of two time Wooden Award winners

Ralph Sampson
Zach Edey

That's the list

(Edey technically hasn't won yet, but he's -2500 for the award right now, lmao)

Also, really weird to put Durant here instead of AD.

Are you like someone who argues that Tim Tebow was actually a bad college football player or something.

You said Edey was the best college player in the last 25 years.

I will ask this again did you watch Melo/KD in college?

Melo led his team to a Nat'l championship as a Freshmen.


Edey has been in college 4 years not a single Nat'l championship.


But you trying to sell me on the best college player in the past 25 years. Even Tyler Hansborough was better. I can give you a list of names better than Edey.

If you a Edey superfan just let me know broskie.

[azcatz11]

I can't take this response serious.

Carmelo/KD even Michael Beasley were better than Edey in college.

If Edey was the greatest college player he would have entered the draft after his freshmen season.

List of two time Wooden Award winners

Ralph Sampson
Zach Edey

That's the list

(Edey technically hasn't won yet, but he's -2500 for the award right now, lmao)

Also, really weird to put Durant here instead of AD.

Are you like someone who argues that Tim Tebow was actually a bad college football player or something.

You said Edey was the best college player in the last 25 years.

I will ask this again did you watch Melo/KD in college?

Melo led his team to a Nat'l championship as a Freshmen.


Edey has been in college 4 years not a single Nat'l championship.


But you trying to sell me on the best college player in the past 25 years. Even Tyler Hansborough was better. I can give you a list of names better than Edey.

If you a Edey superfan just let me know broskie.

I wouldn’t have Edey top 10 in the last 25 years

[GoBobs]

I can't take this response serious.

Carmelo/KD even Michael Beasley were better than Edey in college.

If Edey was the greatest college player he would have entered the draft after his freshmen season.

List of two time Wooden Award winners

Ralph Sampson
Zach Edey

That's the list

(Edey technically hasn't won yet, but he's -2500 for the award right now, lmao)

Also, really weird to put Durant here instead of AD.

Are you like someone who argues that Tim Tebow was actually a bad college football player or something.

You said Edey was the best college player in the last 25 years.

I will ask this again did you watch Melo/KD in college?

Melo led his team to a Nat'l championship as a Freshmen.


Edey has been in college 4 years not a single Nat'l championship.


But you trying to sell me on the best college player in the past 25 years. Even Tyler Hansborough was better. I can give you a list of names better than Edey.

If you a Edey superfan just let me know broskie.

Hansbrough was better..? Oh, really? Lets look at the stats.

Hansbrough's best season he averaged just under 23 pts, 10 reb, his best season in blocks was 0.7 per game, his best season in terms of true shooting percentage was around 63%

Edey this season is averaging 24 pts, 11.8 reb and 2.2 blks with a true shooting percentage just under 66%. His numbers are definitively better than Hansbrough's.

Put together your list but Hansbrough isn't on it.

His best per 40 min numbers: 27 pts, 12.4 reb, 1 blk picking the best numbers from each season

Edey per 40 this season: 31 pts, 15 reb, 2.8 blk on better efficiency than Hansbrough ever had in college