Luka Doncic Part III

[Archx]

I hope that after you see how very wrong you are about Doncic, that you can get over this "NCAA is better than EuroLeague" and "no foreign guards can play" shtick. The Mavs got the best player in the draft by far, having just the 5th pick, and you are complaining....

Hopefully most Mavs fans actually realize what they got, and are happy about it.

Almost all do.

Look at the pic in your video capture Mirotic, does this guy look like a professional athlete? I know I may have an irrational take, but you do too when it comes to how good Euroleague is. there's no way a guy with this athleticism (or lack thereof) will dominate at the NBA level. Again, i don't think he'll be a bum, but if you can get an Embiid/Gobert type, you take him over a Turkaglu/Livingston any day. And keep a pick

And of course we'll complain, because Dal stupidly took another PG in the 2nd round. I don't blame Luka, I blame the FO

You have a valid point. But still, it's puzzling how you are only concerned about his athleticism. Isn't it worrying that you would pick someone else who was incredibly athletic but had a brick in his head instead of brain? You know very well that every rookie gets stronger and works harder after first year. Just give him some time and maybe even defensively he won't be as bad as you think

[daoneandonly]

Almost all do.

Look at the pic in your video capture Mirotic, does this guy look like a professional athlete? I know I may have an irrational take, but you do too when it comes to how good Euroleague is. there's no way a guy with this athleticism (or lack thereof) will dominate at the NBA level. Again, i don't think he'll be a bum, but if you can get an Embiid/Gobert type, you take him over a Turkaglu/Livingston any day. And keep a pick

And of course we'll complain, because Dal stupidly took another PG in the 2nd round. I don't blame Luka, I blame the FO

You have a valid point. But still, it's puzzling how you are only concerned about his athleticism. Isn't it worrying that you would pick someone else who was incredibly athletic but had a brick in his head instead of brain? You know very well that every rookie gets stronger and works harder after first year. Just give him some time and maybe even defensively he won't be as bad as you think

Oh i can see that point. my thing is sicne Dallas came intot he league, they've never had a dominating center, at all. They had the chance here with Bamba avilable at 5, while also being able to keep their pick, that would have been the wise choice.

I actually like Luka more after seeing his interviews, he seems humble for a guy that's had that much success at such a young age. But Cuban is a fool, and will now chase Demarcus Cousins in his battle to prove his is bigger than anyone else's so he can sign the big name FA. And Cousins is not a guy I'd want around DSJ or Luka, not to mention with Luka and DSJ's passing, a rim protecting/rim running big makes far more sense

[juanc]

Look at the pic in your video capture Mirotic, does this guy look like a professional athlete? I know I may have an irrational take, but you do too when it comes to how good Euroleague is. there's no way a guy with this athleticism (or lack thereof) will dominate at the NBA level. Again, i don't think he'll be a bum, but if you can get an Embiid/Gobert type, you take him over a Turkaglu/Livingston any day. And keep a pick

And of course we'll complain, because Dal stupidly took another PG in the 2nd round. I don't blame Luka, I blame the FO

You have a valid point. But still, it's puzzling how you are only concerned about his athleticism. Isn't it worrying that you would pick someone else who was incredibly athletic but had a brick in his head instead of brain? You know very well that every rookie gets stronger and works harder after first year. Just give him some time and maybe even defensively he won't be as bad as you think

Oh i can see that point. my thing is sicne Dallas came intot he league, they've never had a dominating center, at all. They had the chance here with Bamba avilable at 5, while also being able to keep their pick, that would have been the wise choice.

I actually like Luka more after seeing his interviews, he seems humble for a guy that's had that much success at such a young age. But Cuban is a fool, and will now chase Demarcus Cousins in his battle to prove his is bigger than anyone else's so he can sign the big name FA. And Cousins is not a guy I'd want around DSJ or Luka, not to mention with Luka and DSJ's passing, a rim protecting/rim running big makes far more sense

Look at Hayward's college tape and tell me if he was really a better athlete than Luka?

And I need to ask you a question. Who do you think is a good fit for Luka from the Mav's roster?

[Archx]

Look at the pic in your video capture Mirotic, does this guy look like a professional athlete? I know I may have an irrational take, but you do too when it comes to how good Euroleague is. there's no way a guy with this athleticism (or lack thereof) will dominate at the NBA level. Again, i don't think he'll be a bum, but if you can get an Embiid/Gobert type, you take him over a Turkaglu/Livingston any day. And keep a pick

And of course we'll complain, because Dal stupidly took another PG in the 2nd round. I don't blame Luka, I blame the FO

You have a valid point. But still, it's puzzling how you are only concerned about his athleticism. Isn't it worrying that you would pick someone else who was incredibly athletic but had a brick in his head instead of brain? You know very well that every rookie gets stronger and works harder after first year. Just give him some time and maybe even defensively he won't be as bad as you think

Oh i can see that point. my thing is sicne Dallas came intot he league, they've never had a dominating center, at all. They had the chance here with Bamba avilable at 5, while also being able to keep their pick, that would have been the wise choice.

I actually like Luka more after seeing his interviews, he seems humble for a guy that's had that much success at such a young age. But Cuban is a fool, and will now chase Demarcus Cousins in his battle to prove his is bigger than anyone else's so he can sign the big name FA. And Cousins is not a guy I'd want around DSJ or Luka, not to mention with Luka and DSJ's passing, a rim protecting/rim running big makes far more sense

Yeah i was kinda hoping for Cousins but after some thinking i realized that i don't even like his personality let alone his playstyle. I think Cuban was just searching for someone to be face of the franchise after Dirk goes. He probably wasn't convinced with DSJ or he simply thinks DSJ needs some big help with creating offense. Have no clue how they will plan out their strategy but at least it will be fun to watch.
Dallas is still 1 or 2 great players away from playoffs and not to mention, DSJ and Luka both have to develop so.... it will take time, but for starters i just hope he can translate his game to NBA levels. He is a proven winner, he wants to win.

[daoneandonly]

You have a valid point. But still, it's puzzling how you are only concerned about his athleticism. Isn't it worrying that you would pick someone else who was incredibly athletic but had a brick in his head instead of brain? You know very well that every rookie gets stronger and works harder after first year. Just give him some time and maybe even defensively he won't be as bad as you think

Oh i can see that point. my thing is sicne Dallas came intot he league, they've never had a dominating center, at all. They had the chance here with Bamba avilable at 5, while also being able to keep their pick, that would have been the wise choice.

I actually like Luka more after seeing his interviews, he seems humble for a guy that's had that much success at such a young age. But Cuban is a fool, and will now chase Demarcus Cousins in his battle to prove his is bigger than anyone else's so he can sign the big name FA. And Cousins is not a guy I'd want around DSJ or Luka, not to mention with Luka and DSJ's passing, a rim protecting/rim running big makes far more sense

Look at Hayward's college tape and tell me if he was really a better athlete than Luka?

And I need to ask you a question. Who do you think is a good fit for Luka from the Mav's roster?

I'm not sure I understand your question, do you mean which players would fit nice with him? If so, I think Barnes would benefit the most, Dirk would fit, but let's not forget he's 40. My big issue is I dont see the fit with Smith jr, who the Mavs should be building around. neither guy can play defense, and both need the ball to be most effective. I know we saw it work in Houston, but they had a different coach, different styles, and surrounded the guys with 3 point shooters and a rim runner/protector in the middle, Dallas does not have much of that.

[bondom34]

His athleticism I fine, and he's bigger than a PG. I agree on Cousins, bit Dallas just had it's first great draft in ages. He's such a better player than DSJ it's not close.

[daoneandonly]

His athleticism I fine, and he's bigger than a PG. I agree on Cousins, bit Dallas just had it's first great draft in ages. He's such a better player than DSJ it's not close.

I hope you are right, and hope he can play SG, because the last thing I want to see besides getting Cousins, in Matthews still in the starting line-up and Barnes playing PF.

At least I know we'll both agree, matthews sucks!!

[BlueSan]

Shake Milton dont get that one

Traded to the Sixers for #56 and #60

I saw for Kostas. Now I get it very good draft night by Dallas

Brunson imo will be like a Fred VV for Toronto
Kostas is a good gamble as a late second round
And Doncic? Well you are betting everything on him arent you?

[SportsGuy8]

I don't understand the fascination with DSJ, he's just another inefficient chucker who makes a couple freakishly athletic plays per game and everyone goes crazy. His efficiency isn't just bad, it's absolutely HORRENDOUS. Even vs. college competition it wasn't anything special.

People always naively expect that since a player is young, his decision making is going to miraculously get better, but that basically NEVER happens drastically, there are only some minor improvements.

In a way he's basically the opposite of Doncic, probably loved by those who hate Doncic and vice-versa.

The Mavs really should get rid of him while his value is still high.

[bondom34]

His athleticism I fine, and he's bigger than a PG. I agree on Cousins, bit Dallas just had it's first great draft in ages. He's such a better player than DSJ it's not close.

I hope you are right, and hope he can play SG, because the last thing I want to see besides getting Cousins, in Matthews still in the starting line-up and Barnes playing PF.

At least I know we'll both agree, matthews sucks!!

Only one more year though. I'd guess Doncic plays alongside Smith some, and he and Westbrook probably split time at the wings until they move Wes for something. Capela wpd be nice if it wasn't too much money.
DSJ
Doncic
Someone
Barnes
Capela

Is a solid start and has a bunch of potential.

[daoneandonly]

His athleticism I fine, and he's bigger than a PG. I agree on Cousins, bit Dallas just had it's first great draft in ages. He's such a better player than DSJ it's not close.

I hope you are right, and hope he can play SG, because the last thing I want to see besides getting Cousins, in Matthews still in the starting line-up and Barnes playing PF.

At least I know we'll both agree, matthews sucks!!

Only one more year though. I'd guess Doncic plays alongside Smith some, and he and Westbrook probably split time at the wings until they move Wes for something. Capela wpd be nice if it wasn't too much money.
DSJ
Doncic
Someone
Barnes
Capela

Is a solid start and has a bunch of potential.

You want to give us Westbrook?

[bondom34]

I hope you are right, and hope he can play SG, because the last thing I want to see besides getting Cousins, in Matthews still in the starting line-up and Barnes playing PF.

At least I know we'll both agree, matthews sucks!!

Only one more year though. I'd guess Doncic plays alongside Smith some, and he and Westbrook probably split time at the wings until they move Wes for something. Capela wpd be nice if it wasn't too much money.
DSJ
Doncic
Someone
Barnes
Capela

Is a solid start and has a bunch of potential.

You want to give us Westbrook?

I haven't had coffee and guess autocorrect got me!

I'm at the point now I've got like ten teams I'm a fan of, got so tired of watching OKC this year I had to step back. Still like them but I definitely have Dallas as a team I'm cheering for now too. So glad he ended up there.

[daoneandonly]

Only one more year though. I'd guess Doncic plays alongside Smith some, and he and Westbrook probably split time at the wings until they move Wes for something. Capela wpd be nice if it wasn't too much money.
DSJ
Doncic
Someone
Barnes
Capela

Is a solid start and has a bunch of potential.

You want to give us Westbrook?

I haven't had coffee and guess autocorrect got me!

I'm at the point now I've got like ten teams I'm a fan of, got so tired of watching OKC this year I had to step back. Still like them but I definitely have Dallas as a team I'm cheering for now too. So glad he ended up there.

I call that the Melo effect

[bondom34]

You want to give us Westbrook?

I haven't had coffee and guess autocorrect got me!

I'm at the point now I've got like ten teams I'm a fan of, got so tired of watching OKC this year I had to step back. Still like them but I definitely have Dallas as a team I'm cheering for now too. So glad he ended up there.

I call that the Melo effect

I didn't want to say it myself lol.

[J_T]

I don't understand the fascination with DSJ, he's just another inefficient chucker who makes a couple freakishly athletic plays per game and everyone goes crazy. His efficiency isn't just bad, it's absolutely HORRENDOUS. Even vs. college competition it wasn't anything special.

People always naively expect that since a player is young, his decision making is going to miraculously get better, but that basically NEVER happens drastically, there are only some minor improvements.

In a way he's basically the opposite of Doncic, probably loved by those who hate Doncic and vice-versa.

The Mavs really should get rid of him while his value is still high.

You have a point, but not everyone can be basketball savant like Doncic at young age, it's almost unprecedented. I think that when it comes to efficiency, young players do have every opportunity to improve. DSJ will improve at most of the things. The reason why people like him is because for a rookie he showed a very good season and good potential.

Also, getting Doncic should in my opinion help him. It will definitely take pressure off him and his efficiency should get better.

[mabundo_nagumbe]

Press conference is at 19.30 CET and will be live on Mavs Facebook page

[SportsGuy8]

I don't understand the fascination with DSJ, he's just another inefficient chucker who makes a couple freakishly athletic plays per game and everyone goes crazy. His efficiency isn't just bad, it's absolutely HORRENDOUS. Even vs. college competition it wasn't anything special.

People always naively expect that since a player is young, his decision making is going to miraculously get better, but that basically NEVER happens drastically, there are only some minor improvements.

In a way he's basically the opposite of Doncic, probably loved by those who hate Doncic and vice-versa.

The Mavs really should get rid of him while his value is still high.

You have a point, but not everyone can be basketball savant like Doncic at young age, it's almost unprecedented. I think that when it comes to efficiency, young players do have every opportunity to improve. DSJ will improve at most of the things. The reason why people like him is because for a rookie he showed a very good season and good potential.

Also, getting Doncic should in my opinion help him. It will definitely take pressure off him and his efficiency should get better.

I disagree, he just had a high usage rate on a terrible team. It's one thing if he had a bad TS% of like 50-52, then we could argue that there's a possibility of him one day becoming an efficient player, but his was 47! That's beyond terrible. I think his TS% was tied for 339th out of 353 qualified players! Seriously, 339th out of 353.

Even if he improves tremendously to unseen proportions, his efficiency is still only going to be around average, if that.

People keep making this exact same mistake with every single extremely athletic young PG who puts up some decent stats in his rookie season.

[Marcus]

I'll leave this open through summer league then it's getting locked.

[juanc]

I'll leave this open through summer league then it's getting locked.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Where will we be able to continue our beloved Euroleague vs NCAA debate then

[Marcus]

I'll leave this open through summer league then it's getting locked.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Where will we be able to continue our beloved Euroleague vs NCAA debate then

GB i'm sure will be filled with Doncic threads and they do an annual rookie thread on there as well. There will be ENDLESS Doncic conversation there.