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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#321 » by Kaner » Thu Dec 8, 2011 6:19 am

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ManualRam wrote:he's not skilled enough to play the 3. he's a 4, not a tweener either. i think he'll get ate up regardless.


I think he'll be very similar to Jeff Green, in that he'll be able to get his but he won't ever dominate any aspect of the game. He'll still be a valuable member of any squad IMO.

Jeff Green is just awful. That's not a player I'm envisioning as a good pick high in the lotto.


Well, Jeff Green was a #5 pick himself. I know where you're coming from, Green is best suited as a 6th man because he cannot give you the edge at neither the 3 or the 4 spot, but he can still contribute. Of course in a draft like this you're not going to want to draft a player in the lotto that will likely end up as a bench player with all of the talent available.
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#322 » by Ruzious » Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:07 pm

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ManualRam wrote:if he's not a good shooter he's not a triple threat player.

And if the sky is blue, it's not yellow. He's a good enough shooter to be a threat.

i disagree with that. i have no doubt defenders will play off of him at the next level. he has the type of shot release where you can play off him and still contest.

That might be true if it wasn't for his length. PF's will play off him anyway because he's too quick and aggressive for most of them. There's no question for me that he will be a scorer in the NBA.
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#323 » by ManualRam » Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:39 pm

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Ruzious wrote:And if the sky is blue, it's not yellow. He's a good enough shooter to be a threat.

i disagree with that. i have no doubt defenders will play off of him at the next level. he has the type of shot release where you can play off him and still contest.

That might be true if it wasn't for his length. PF's will play off him anyway because he's too quick and aggressive for most of them. There's no question for me that he will be a scorer in the NBA.

i think he'll be a scorer too...of the al harrington variety.
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#324 » by Charsace » Thu Dec 8, 2011 7:21 pm

I think MKG will be a top 7 player on draft day. He's looks like the player people were hyping Barnes up as being.
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Post#325 » by ManualRam » Thu Dec 8, 2011 7:36 pm

Charsace wrote:I think MKG will be a top 7 player on draft day. He's looks like the player people were hyping Barnes up as being.

2 totally different types of SF. i dont see how they're comparable.
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Post#326 » by Charsace » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:48 pm

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Charsace wrote:I think MKG will be a top 7 player on draft day. He's looks like the player people were hyping Barnes up as being.

2 totally different types of SF. i dont see how they're comparable.

Yeah, people realize that now. It wasn't long ago that people were calling Barnes the next Kobe Bryant(still don't understand where the hell this comparison came from). MKG is the super athletic two way player Barnes was hyped up as being before playing a college game.
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Post#327 » by erudite23 » Thu Dec 8, 2011 10:37 pm

Unless Barnes can find a way to be a bigger creator going to the hoop (both scoring and creating shots/for his teammates) then I think there's no way he has superstar potential. Still, he'll be an extremely good defender who can shoot and be at least an average rebounder. Worth a top 10 pick in most drafts.

There is a ton of uncertainty at the top of this draft. I can see any number of guys making the leap up and taking over the top spot.
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#328 » by Steely Reserve » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:37 am

Lamb is a consensus top-4 prospect. Anyone who doesn't have this guy in their top 5 Big Board (Chad Ford)doesn't know what they're talking about.
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#329 » by ManualRam » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:45 am

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Charsace wrote:I think MKG will be a top 7 player on draft day. He's looks like the player people were hyping Barnes up as being.

2 totally different types of SF. i dont see how they're comparable.

Yeah, people realize that now. It wasn't long ago that people were calling Barnes the next Kobe Bryant(still don't understand where the hell this comparison came from). MKG is the super athletic two way player Barnes was hyped up as being before playing a college game.

Gilchrist doesnt have to worry about drawing the opposing team's best perimeter defender. Opposing defenses dont devise schemes to stop him either. He is what he is, an athletic hustle player on both ends of the floor. IOW, he's perfect for UK's pressure defense, open court style.
Barnes was never hyped to be a super athletic two way player. His level of athleticism was evident in the preps. He is a two way player and was last yr as well.
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#330 » by Roger Murdock » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:48 am

Steely Reserve wrote:Lamb is a consensus top-4 prospect. Anyone who doesn't have this guy in their top 5 Big Board (Chad Ford)doesn't know what they're talking about.


He has Barnes 2 for gods sake.
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#331 » by Steely Reserve » Fri Dec 9, 2011 2:56 am

Lamb averaging:

20 ppg 4 rpg 2 apg 2 spg on 51% 38% 87%

And this is only good for #11 on Chad Ford's Big Board.

LMAO

But at least he said Anthony Davis is the best prospect since Dwight Howard and Derrick Rose, right?
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#332 » by Cammo101 » Fri Dec 9, 2011 3:27 am

Adam Morrison's stats were bonkers. He must have been a way better prospect than the Rudy Gay guy with the okay numbers.

Using stats to decide the best prospects is asking for failure.
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Post#333 » by Steely Reserve » Fri Dec 9, 2011 5:00 am

Cammo101 wrote:Adam Morrison's stats were bonkers. He must have been a way better prospect than the Rudy Gay guy with the okay numbers.

Using stats to decide the best prospects is asking for failure.

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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#334 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Dec 9, 2011 8:44 am

Cammo101 wrote:Adam Morrison's stats were bonkers. He must have been a way better prospect than the Rudy Gay guy with the okay numbers.

Using stats to decide the best prospects is asking for failure.

I agree and see the context of the reply, but Lamb is an animal.
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#335 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Dec 9, 2011 8:45 am

Steely Reserve wrote:Lamb is a consensus top-4 prospect. Anyone who doesn't have this guy in their top 5 Big Board (Chad Ford)doesn't know what they're talking about.

Tell Jon G that. Lord knows I do every week.
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#336 » by Ruzious » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:48 pm

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Steely Reserve wrote:Lamb is a consensus top-4 prospect. Anyone who doesn't have this guy in their top 5 Big Board (Chad Ford)doesn't know what they're talking about.

Tell Jon G that. Lord knows I do every week.

I like Lamb a lot - and raved about him last season, but... he doesn't have the personality of a guy who's going to be a team leader. I.e. - he's not going to be a Dwayne Wade type. And notice when there's a loose ball, he's a half step slow in going after it - he's not a scrapper. He's still going to be a heckuva player, but I don't see him being a great player. And he's simply not the NBA prospect that Anthony Davis is. Good bigs are more valuable than good shooting guards.
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#337 » by Cammo101 » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:00 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:Adam Morrison's stats were bonkers. He must have been a way better prospect than the Rudy Gay guy with the okay numbers.

Using stats to decide the best prospects is asking for failure.

I agree and see the context of the reply, but Lamb is an animal.


I love Lamb as a prospect and have since last year. I was merely pointing out that his thought process was effed.
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#338 » by Knckles » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:25 am

Lamb is the only player in this draft who will be a superstar every1 else will be busts compared to their potentials.
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#339 » by princeofpalace » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:38 pm

My revised top 5

Davis
Drummond
Lamb
Robinson
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Re: Top 5 Prospects for 2012 NBA Draft 

Post#340 » by ManualRam » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:46 am

Terrence Jones is like a bully who folds when you punch him in the mouth.
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